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Hayne set to be axed

fish eel

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Nikki said:
For mine, I still think its a bit hypocritical that Caylo was part of the decision considering he was with the boys on the night. Its almost a conflict of interest.

but was cayless one of the guys who left at midnight or did he kick on like the other three?
 

Fathead

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Whilst I believe that this behaviour is just going to get worse because its the culture that we bring these kids up in, a few things have come to mind.

1. The senior management group, with Nathan Cayless and Nathan Hindmarsh have given the punishment the tick of approval. This message alone should be enough for the players to sit up and take notice. In footy, its usually a us against them thing, Us against the opposition, us against the establishment. Having your team mates make the decision was a stroke of genius on the managements part.

2. If we didnt do something strong from a team perspective, the NRL could always punish us further. The game is bigger than the individual.

3. Michael Hagan continues to impress as a coach and a mentor. Hages has shown that he is one of the boys, now he's is showing his worth as a coach. His appointment as coach was a masterstroke from Fitzy which was largely derided by the fans. Give Fitzy credit where it is due.
 

Nikki

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fish eel said:
but was cayless one of the guys who left at midnight or did he kick on like the other three?

Well he apparently left at midnight. But as I mentioned in another post, for my own piece of mind, I hope as he left he suggested for the others to as well. I mean, thats what you would hope someone in a leadership group would do right? But again, that is a fact that will never be known.
 

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I am very disappointed in the entire Parramatta side. Such behaviour should not be accepted. They are a disgrace to the Parramatta club which has been in existance since 1947, and they are a disgrace to the rugby league competition in general. No other club would treat their players with such lenience. The Eels board are pathetic. Let's all organize a boycott for for round 1. What do you say guys?
 

Stagger eel

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Eels Dude said:
I am very disappointed in the entire Parramatta side. Such behaviour should not be accepted. They are a disgrace to the Parramatta club which has been in existance since 1947, and they are a disgrace to the rugby league competition in general. No other club would treat their players with such lenience. The Eels board are pathetic. Let's all organize a boycott for for round 1. What do you say guys?

ok, what would be a suitable punnishment in your book?
 

COACH STERLING

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Nikki said:
For mine, I still think its a bit hypocritical that Caylo was part of the decision considering he was with the boys on the night. Its almost a conflict of interest.

Didn't Cayless smash an air-con unit at the casino once before. He was on the piss with Hindy after a loss. It may have been after the 2006 semi against Melbourne. I find it a all very strange.
 

Eels Dude

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Stagger eel said:
ok, what would be a suitable punnishment in your book?

Ban them from drinking completely, use ankle bracelets to make sure they are in bed before midnight, and if they don't, then make sure they have to use a breathalyser to get into their house, otherwise they shall have to sleep outside on the balcony. And if by chance they all come home together, they can cuddle up to keep warm.

Then in the morning, they may think to themselves and realize, "Hey we did do the wrong the wrong thing, how immature of us, let us never drink again"

And the Parra trio would realise they did wrong and live happily ever after....
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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Eels Dude said:
I am very disappointed in the entire Parramatta side. Such behaviour should not be accepted. They are a disgrace to the Parramatta club which has been in existance since 1947, and they are a disgrace to the rugby league competition in general. No other club would treat their players with such lenience. The Eels board are pathetic. Let's all organize a boycott for for round 1. What do you say guys?

I think you need to get a grip. It was 3 players. Not the entire team. This punishment is sufficient. They are not a disgrace, they just dont realise that when people see their face, they think of the club they are apart of and therefore are representatives of the club 24/7. The fact that Jarryd, Weller and Junior chose to take the Gasnier incident further is their mistake, and thats what they have been punished for.
 

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Stagger eel said:
ok, what would be a suitable punnishment in your book?

Hit them where it hurts most, in the back pocket!
A suspension is like giving the dogs a 2-4 point start although I can see where the club is coming from seeing it's becoming a regular occurence.

I can remember 7 drinking related incidents in the last 2yrs.

Smith X 3 (rocks, northies, parra pub)
Hayne X 2 (roxy, cross)
Piggy - glassing incident
cayless - smashing an air con unit

There's probably 50 other un reported incidents. Oh yeah, all alcohol related.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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Eels Dude said:
Ban them from drinking completely, use ankle bracelets to make sure they are in bed before midnight, and if they don't, then make sure they have to use a breathalyser to get into their house, otherwise they shall have to sleep outside on the balcony. And if by chance they all come home together, they can cuddle up to keep warm.

Then in the morning, they may think to themselves and realize, "Hey we did do the wrong the wrong thing, how immature of us, let us never drink again"

And the Parra trio would realise they did wrong and live happily ever after....

Well now I know your a wanker.

Thats a sentence they give to prisoners on parole.
 

Eels Dude

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1 Eyed TEZZA said:
Well now I know your a wanker.

Thats a sentence they give to prisoners on parole.

I am a wanker yes, and just to be honest cuddling man to man has made me a better person.
 

yy_cheng

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How about a Parra Point system like for driving.

3 pt for alchohol related incidents, etc, with fines a the more points you have, the longer you are sent to play for wenty.

This could potentially prevent a player representing for State or Country and that's pretty bad in my books.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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I actually wouldnt mind the NRL being able to stop players from playing rep footy, but you cant exactly ban a player like Joel Reddy or Michael Ennis who will never play rep footy.
 

Eels Dude

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It takes away from rep footy too. Any punishment, sad to say, is working in the hands of the opposition, Rugby + Super League etc, because it gives every player more incentive to join the evil parties. Think about it.
 

Stagger eel

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Eels Dude said:
Ban them from drinking completely, use ankle bracelets to make sure they are in bed before midnight, and if they don't, then make sure they have to use a breathalyser to get into their house, otherwise they shall have to sleep outside on the balcony. And if by chance they all come home together, they can cuddle up to keep warm.

Then in the morning, they may think to themselves and realize, "Hey we did do the wrong the wrong thing, how immature of us, let us never drink again"

And the Parra trio would realise they did wrong and live happily ever after....

ok, I'm actually trying to get a full understanding as to whether your serious or not and I'm still none the wiser.
 

Eels Dude

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Good point Stagger.

I'm not. I was raising my objection to what I think has been unfair criticism on the Parramatta club during the past week, and really when you think about it, the past two years. Yes, there have been "alcohol related incidents" but what is that really? Yeah Tim Smith got drunk, Jarryd Hayne got drunk, and he was 'shot at'. If he hadn't been shot at it would not have made the news. And since he has been shot at, all of a sudden, it's his fault, he gets the criticism and gets suspended. It really annoys me how the media portrays Parramatta as a troubled club, yet we've had no real off field dramas apart from someone being "drunk". No Drink driving charges, no assault charges, no alledged sexual assaults. So that's the word of the Dude.
 

GotheTITANS

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as if he his gonna dropped for round 1, and if hayne was a patheic joke that would be. But still there stupid for being out at that time anyway.
 

Stagger eel

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Dude, our behaviour off the field since the Day Brian Smith walked away from the club has been very poor, whilst they all didn't break the law nor were they convicted of breaking the law they still put the clubs name and the game in disripute, the problem isn't the severity of the incidents, it's the fact that we're continually putting ourselves in a position to be caught and fined and it's because of that that reason, we're being targeted as a club, some clubs out there can probably afford the odd minor incident, we no longer can...we put ourselves in a position to be overlly scrutenised we shouldn't have anyone to blame but ourselves.

For those out there who think the media are the bad guys in all this, guess what three stories i saw last night on channel 9 news? The Hayne incident followed by the Gaz fining followed by *wait for it* the Tigers visiting a sick child at a hospital...

so whilst Proton Motors Maanagement are rubbing their hands together thinking this is great publicity for our name, the Directors for Pirtek are probably sitting there scratching their heads wondering, is this all worth it??? and they'll probably be asking for a please explain to the Parramatta board.

I'm just sick of blaming everyone else but ourselves and i'm still asking myself why do we get ourselves in this situation and are our management to pissweak to really stamp their authority on our first grade players?

maybe the 1 match suspension and fine for the boys may do it or could it be that the incident itself was life altering experiance for all three? who knows but one things for certain, the leadership group and the rest of the players all agree on the fine and the suspension so I can't see a fault in it.
 

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