Hayne signs with Gold Coast

[carcharias]

man.
The warriors are gonna love this game .
Titans will be flogged from last Monday night where they drew their grand final and Hayne with zero match fitness.

 

[Valheru]

It's good to have Hayne back and it looks like Parramatta only have themselves to blame for not securing his services again.


I don't think he should be able to play this year though. It won’t affect my team but I would have thought Cronulla or Canberra fans would be filthy if they were knocked out of the finals due to a freak Hayne performance.


I understand that the June 30 thing has been clarified by the NRL to only include player transfers from other NRL clubs (and maybe Super League??) but are they saying there is no restriction on free agents? So if, for example, the Olympics were a month later and this was all happening in early September, they would be fine with Hayne coming in for the finals?

 

[Card Shark]

If everyone has a closer look at the last sentence in that link from the NRL.

"The decision required NRL approval which was given in "this case" in the best interests of the game."

So how can this be taken? In this Hayne case,have they made an exception to the 30th June deadline for the interests of the game?

Thanks for posting this...I will rest my case (& ECT should his too) - as long as the NRL have admitted to breaking their own rules, we know where we stand.

Wish they'd now come out & explain the MRC & bunker decisions which are against the (previously accepted) fabric of the game.

 

[Card Shark]

Ect is probably right but who cares if the nrl makes an exception if the gold coast has salary cap space.

Very few care but when SBW ends up at the Roosters in similar circumstances, I'm sure a few more might.

The precedence has been set.

 

[Timmah]

It's good to have Hayne back and it looks like Parramatta only have themselves to blame for not securing his services again.


I don't think he should be able to play this year though. It won’t affect my team but I would have thought Cronulla or Canberra fans would be filthy if they were knocked out of the finals due to a freak Hayne performance.


I understand that the June 30 thing has been clarified by the NRL to only include player transfers from other NRL clubs (and maybe Super League??) but are they saying there is no restriction on free agents? So if, for example, the Olympics were a month later and this was all happening in early September, they would be fine with Hayne coming in for the finals?

My understanding is that you need to have played a certain number of regular premiership games (probably five) in order to play finals?

 

[big hit!]

are Parra fans really going to boo Hayne when he nexts plays against Parra? what a bunch of flogs if they do.

if Parra had their shit together, he'd be back there. don't blame a bloke who has to also think about his own future. i'm sure parra flogs would go to another workplace too if they were being offered 50% more to do the same job, without all the bullshit which has been going on at Parra.

the player is the easy scapegoat. you lot should be outside the houses of the directors who've brought the club to it's knees.

 

[The_Shield]

No. Wrong again. That is just there in the event that somewhere in the country there are multiple seasons that span that timeframe.

Players need a clearance when they change clubs regardless of when they last played. It doesn't matter if it was last week or last decade. And they need to do it before June 30. It's really not that hard.

The rule says says June 30 in the same season. This is now a different season so Hayne can get his clearance after June 30. It's really not that complicated

 

[big hit!]

My understanding is that you need to have played a certain number of regular premiership games (probably five) in order to play finals?

is the nrl park footy?

 

[Timmah]

The rule says says June 30 in the same season. This is now a different season so Hayne can get his clearance after June 30. It's really not that complicated

It's actually nothing to do with the June 30 deadine at all...

 

[Timmah]

is the nrl park footy?

You think the NRL would register a finals-only contract for someone?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The rule says says June 30 in the same season. This is now a different season so Hayne can get his clearance after June 30. It's really not that complicated

It means it needs to be within the same season if there is more than one season inside the Nov 1-June 30 period, which obviously there is not in the NRL. Why would players need a clearance before June 30, but not after? That's ludicrous.

All these people who want to re-interpret the rules. All players need a clearance when changing clubs. It doesn't matter if they played last season or the season before. Why is this so difficult for people to comprehend?

 

[adamkungl]

Very few care but when SBW ends up at the Roosters in similar circumstances, I'm sure a few more might.

The precedence has been set.

I'd say in the case of special consideration, the closer we get to the finals the less likely it would be to be given. It's worth noting that Hayne has played about 7 minutes of sport this year, too, so it's not like he's coming straight out of a high level union season straight into the finals.

 

[ed-grimley]

It's good to have Hayne back and it looks like Parramatta only have themselves to blame for not securing his services again.


I don't think he should be able to play this year though. It won’t affect my team but I would have thought Cronulla or Canberra fans would be filthy if they were knocked out of the finals due to a freak Hayne performance.


I understand that the June 30 thing has been clarified by the NRL to only include player transfers from other NRL clubs (and maybe Super League??) but are they saying there is no restriction on free agents? So if, for example, the Olympics were a month later and this was all happening in early September, they would be fine with Hayne coming in for the finals?

They didn't really under the circumstances. GC had to pay the biggest wad of money ever to get him into their jumper. Parra simply didn't have the room to move to top it.

 

[adamkungl]

It means it needs to be within the same season if there is more than one season inside the Nov 1-June 30 period, which obviously there is not in the NRL. Why would players need a clearance before June 30, but not after? That's ludicrous.

All these people who want to re-interpret the rules. All players need a clearance when changing clubs. It doesn't matter if they played last season or the season before. Why is this so difficult for people to comprehend?

Special consideration was given to override the clearance rules. It is what it is.

 

[SBD82]

Yes he is. Parra to Gold Coast.

It doesn't matter if he played NFL, union or tiddlywinks over the past year.

He is moving clubs as far as rugby league is concerned. So he needs a clearance.

I understand that you are saying that registration, contracts and clearances are not the same thing, but I wonder if they are interrelated.

For example: is it possible that hayne's original contract or release from contract contained a clause regarding the clearance agreement following the end of the contract, thereby circumventing the rule?

It would also mean that the clearance was granted prior to 30th June this year. ie if the club has to grant a clearance prior to him signing with another club the clearance must be granted prior to him signing a contract with another club. Which means that the clearance must be able to be granted at any time.

I'm not saying that's the case, I guess I'm just saying that we don't really know the ins and outs of individual nrl contracts. Which is where the players contracted to first grade NRL clubs may differ from other parts of the NRL.

 

[ed-grimley]

are Parra fans really going to boo Hayne when he nexts plays against Parra? what a bunch of flogs if they do.

if Parra had their shit together, he'd be back there. don't blame a bloke who has to also think about his own future. i'm sure parra flogs would go to another workplace too if they were being offered 50% more to do the same job, without all the bullshit which has been going on at Parra.

the player is the easy scapegoat. you lot should be outside the houses of the directors who've brought the club to it's knees.

Arthur has built his team assuming Hayne might never come back. I think we should all move on.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Special consideration was given to override the clearance rules. It is what it is.

So say that. Don't give us some bullshit about not having a contract and not being registered or being a "free agent" (whatever that is in RL terms). Just say, we are the NRL, we can apply or ignore whatever rules we like and we are going to let Hayne play for the club we own regardless of what rules exist.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I understand that you are saying that registration, contracts and clearances are not the same thing, but I wonder if they are interrelated.

For example: is it possible that hayne's original contract or release from contract contained a clause regarding the clearance agreement following the end of the contract, thereby circumventing the rule?

It would also mean that the clearance was granted prior to 30th June this year. ie if the club has to grant a clearance prior to him signing with another club the clearance must be granted prior to him signing a contract with another club. Which means that the clearance must be able to be granted at any time.

I'm not saying that's the case, I guess I'm just saying that we don't really know the ins and outs of individual nrl contracts. Which is where the players contracted to first grade NRL clubs may differ from other parts of the NRL.

Because contracts don't dictate clearances. How could they? A player and a club can't just agree to circumvent the sport's rules and put it in a contract. The clearance system is defined in the policy. It requires the new club to seek the clearance from the old club in writing. Before June 30.

 

[Pommy]

My understanding is that you need to have played a certain number of regular premiership games (probably five) in order to play finals?

So what happens if there's a team badly hit by injury and suspension can't get bring reserve graders in to finals games? Doesn't sound likely to me.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

My understanding is that you need to have played a certain number of regular premiership games (probably five) in order to play finals?

Of course this could not be the case. If a player was injured in round one he would be perfectly able to come back and play finals. In most comps players can't just rock up and play finals because they can't register after June 30. The NRL has done away with that so that's not an issue.

The qualification rules for finals is generally for lower level comps, not first grade. ie you can't stack your team with first graders if you miss the first grade finals but make the reserve grade finals.

Most comps have a 50% rule - the have to play at least 50% of games in the lower grade, or you have to have played the majority of your last five games in the lower grade. Something like that. It varies. But first grade is unrestricted, naturally.