Hayne to the NFL???

[Billythekid]

And that is an admirable thing to do. It just sucks because he is such a talented Rugby League player.

One of my favourite moments from the entire year was when he run into the grand stand after Origin 2.

This is how i feel. Good on him for giving it a shot but it sucks that he is leaving. IMO he is the best player in the game and by far the most exciting to watch. I love how he engages with the fans and i also loved that he stuck by Parra even though they were a complete basket case.

On the one hand i'd love to see him succeed but on the flip side man i want him back in the game.

Edit: I also think it's a bit of a shame because i think he will find no success in the NFL. He has the potential to be one of the all time greats in the NRL and i'd like to see him have that legacy.

 

[Canard]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, I cbf reading 37 pages, but does anyone think the wrestling in League will prove to be one of the biggest hurdles for Hayne to overcome?

Now correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no huge NFL fan, but wrestling doesn't really exist in NFL. The stop-start nature of the sport means the emphasis is on stopping the play, no need to wrestle because once a player is tackled, the game stops. Defenders aiming at his legs to either tackle him or slow him down means Hayne loses one aspect of his elusiveness. He won't get the same opportunities to break tackles or step defenders like he does in League since tackling around the legs isn't as popular as it once was in our game.

You are basically saying no-one tackles around the legs in League anymore, whereas in NFL you assume they do.

That just not a very accurate view of BOTH codes.

 

[Canard]

This. Hayne is one of my favourite players, have met before, had photos with him, etc and I've labelled him the best player in the NRL on numerous occasions and I admire his leap of faith but I laugh at people who don't watch NFL at all who think he's just going to go over there and be a big star because he's a superstar in rugby league and that somehow transfers over to NFL

Has anyone anywhere, even in this thread, claimed that though?

If anything the majority of posters on here are claiming he is NO chance.

 

[magpie4ever]

Has anyone anywhere, even in this thread, claimed that though?

If anything the majority of posters on here are claiming he is NO chance.

Aqua's photos of him and Haynezy might be the real reason he is leaving the NRL - incriminating, possible.

 

[aqua_duck]

Has anyone anywhere, even in this thread, claimed that though?

If anything the majority of posters on here are claiming he is NO chance.

All these NFL fans saying he has to learn how to play the game, has to learn the plays etc - how do you experts know that he doesn't know the game? Maybe he's as big an expert as you guys. Or maybe, incredulous as it sounds, he knows more about the game than you do. :shock:

:roll:

This is the post I was replying to. I never claimed to be an expert, in fact I even said that despite watching it religiously for the past 3 years and on and off for a few years previously I know jack all in the scheme of things.

 

[Danish]

You guys understand there is a difference between book smarts and football smarts, right?
This is a game they have played all their life, a game they understand innately, it's natural to them, the same way the RL is natural to say Greg Inglis, and we all know that bloke is a thick as f**king plank. The same way Dane Swan is a natural to AFL, despite being a total f**king idiot, the same way Digby Ioane is a natural to RU, despite possessing what must be a sub 80 IQ.

No one is saying they are intellectuals, least not anymore so than other other elite sorts. You dont have to be a genius to play elite sport, but there is a difference in growing up playing a sport and having an innate understand of the sport, a natural feel for it, the rules, the general flow of the game, being instinctive to the game because it's what you've grown up playing, and translating that information in to be able to play it autonomously. As opposed to Hayne who has none of this.

You dont have to be an intellectual to play NFL, 99% of the NFL rosters are dumb shits. However they really dont have to learn it as such, they grow up playing it, it's just acquired knowledge over literally decades of experience.
Learning a game this complex, having never grown up with, never played it, is COMPLETELY different.

Goodness, can you at least try and be an adult about this?

What bullshit. You talk like all NFL players have been living and breathing the game since birth!

There is a long list of NFL players who never played he game till midway through f**king college, then got drafted to teams. Scouts regularly check in on basketball squads as well as gridiron squads when looking for prospects and college coaches constantly try to convert potential players from other sports at their schools.

Obviously the game isn't THAT bloody hard to pick up given how many non-football background athletes convert and find success in the sport.

 

[Sydney Knight]

Haynetrain

Actually when I look again the guy in the Eels Jersey getting arrested looks a lot like Brad Arthur

 

[magpie4ever]

Actually when I look again the guy in the Eels Jersey getting arrested looks a lot like Brad Arthur

:lol: He has been on the piss for 24 hours after hearing Hayne's news.

 

[MrAnonymous]

Edit: I also think it's a bit of a shame because i think he will find no success in the NFL. He has the potential to be one of the all time greats in the NRL and i'd like to see him have that legacy.

He already is one of the all-time greats. He's easily one of the top 20 players to play the game imo. You could say top 10 if he won a premiership.

 

[Canard]

What bullshit. You talk like all NFL players have been living and breathing the game since birth!

There is a long list of NFL players who never played he game till midway through f**king college, then got drafted to teams. Scouts regularly check in on basketball squads as well as gridiron squads when looking for prospects and college coaches constantly try to convert potential players from other sports at their schools.

Obviously the game isn't THAT bloody hard to pick up given how many non-football background athletes convert and find success in the sport.

Mate, they are all superhuman athletes with incredible intelligence.

 

[Son of Minto]

He already is one of the all-time greats. He's easily one of the top 20 players to play the game imo. You could say top 10 if he won a premiership.

100% f**k no

 

[MrAnonymous]

100% f**k no

You're a deluded merkin then.

 

[Sans Souci Sainter]

It's a trap!

1. Hayne "leaves" for his NFL "dream", takes a year off to get ripped, faster and even "Hayne-ier", with NFL training.

2. Parramatta use their extra cap space to secure their better juniors and attract 3-4 more decent players.

3. A year later..., NFL is a tougher nut to crack than first thought, Hayne's new "dream" is to win an NRL GF, Dave Smith uses his "extraordinary" powers to get The Hayne Plane back. Parra charge into the finals with a super team and a super bandwagon to match. Rabbs and Gus wax on about the greatest GF since Rusty tongue-pashed Sam Burgess.

4. Parramatta fans set fire to their ground again and the Wanderers wander off to wherever they're supposed to be wandering to.

 

[nrlnrl]

He already is one of the all-time greats. He's easily one of the top 20 players to play the game imo. You could say top 10 if he won a premiership.

The top 20 of all-time ? wow that's a big call. I realise everyone is entitled to their opinion, but maybe top 20 you've seen play ? I'm not trying to be clever, but how far back have you gone for this ? I rate him very highly, but on his overall career to date, couldn't put him ahead of these guys of the past 15 years :

Danny Buderus, Cooper Cronk, Brad Fittler, Justin Hodges, Greg Inglis, Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer, Billy Slater, Cameron Smith & Johnathan Thurston

 

[some11]

It's a trap!

1. Hayne "leaves" for his NFL "dream", takes a year off to get ripped, faster and even "Hayne-ier", with NFL training.

2. Parramatta use their extra cap space to secure their better juniors and attract 3-4 more decent players.

3. A year later..., NFL is a tougher nut to crack than first thought, Hayne's new "dream" is to win an NRL GF, Dave Smith uses his "extraordinary" powers to get The Hayne Plane back. Parra charge into the finals with a super team and a super bandwagon to match. Rabbs and Gus wax on about the greatest GF since Rusty tongue-pashed Sam Burgess.

4. Parramatta fans set fire to their ground again and the Wanderers wander off to wherever they're supposed to be wandering to.

I see no problem with any of this tbh.

Gonna suck watching Parra without Hayne, if Wopoate can play at the back showing the same form he did at Manly it wont be so bad.

 

[MrAnonymous]

The top 20 of all-time ? wow that's a big call. I realise everyone is entitled to their opinion, but maybe top 20 you've seen play ? I'm not trying to be clever, but how far back have you gone for this ? I rate him very highly, but on his overall career to date, couldn't put him ahead of these guys of the past 15 years :

Danny Buderus, Cooper Cronk, Brad Fittler, Justin Hodges, Greg Inglis, Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer, Billy Slater, Cameron Smith & Johnathan Thurston

I'll those players have had champion players around them. Hayne has carried duds for NSW and Parramatta since his come into grade. From the players above Johns, Fittler and Inglis are the only ones who could of done what Hayne has done in the game with the caliber of team mates.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

lol Buderus and Smith,2 people who pass the ball out of dummy half are def better than someone who can dominate from the wing,centre and FB position scoring a million length of the field individual tries whilst running faster than Usain Bolt

 

[whall15]

It's a trap!

1. Hayne "leaves" for his NFL "dream", takes a year off to get ripped, faster and even "Hayne-ier", with NFL training.

2. Parramatta use their extra cap space to secure their better juniors and attract 3-4 more decent players.

3. A year later..., NFL is a tougher nut to crack than first thought, Hayne's new "dream" is to win an NRL GF, Dave Smith uses his "extraordinary" powers to get The Hayne Plane back. Parra charge into the finals with a super team and a super bandwagon to match. Rabbs and Gus wax on about the greatest GF since Rusty tongue-pashed Sam Burgess.

4. Parramatta fans set fire to their ground again and the Wanderers wander off to wherever they're supposed to be wandering to.

Oh f**k I hope you're right.

Lets make it even better, the Grand Final is against the Storm.

 

[nrlnrl]

lol Buderus and Smith,2 people who pass the ball out of dummy half are def better than someone who can dominate from the wing,centre and FB position scoring a million length of the field individual tries whilst running faster than Usain Bolt

you're right, that's why the Broncos have 13 fullbacks on their roster for 2015

 

[aqua_duck]

What bullshit. You talk like all NFL players have been living and breathing the game since birth!

There is a long list of NFL players who never played he game till midway through f**king college, then got drafted to teams. Scouts regularly check in on basketball squads as well as gridiron squads when looking for prospects and college coaches constantly try to convert potential players from other sports at their schools.

Obviously the game isn't THAT bloody hard to pick up given how many non-football background athletes convert and find success in the sport.

And most of those guys take years to learn a position, and they're all starting from an earlier age, not age 27. There are a few college basketball players who have converted to tight ends, but they are guys who had some football experience and bring a unique skillset to the tightend position (guys who are 6'5, 115kg and can run, jump and catch don't grow on trees). As I mentioned before there's a guy playing for the bengals who's a freak athlete (junior world record holder in discuss), has had 4 years of college experience and 18 months in the NFL and is still considered too raw to play significant snaps.
I have no doubt Hayne could've made a fist of it if he went over there 6 or 7 years ago, but to learn from scratch at 27 is a tall order