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Ron Jeremy

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OVP said:
This alone dear Millers is where you fall from grace. You childishly compare a Hendrix COVER, to whatever your sad mind compares it to. How could you possibly think Wild Thing is a Hendrix Song ? Are you geniused ?


Tell you what Sunshine, you can name ANY guitarist or muso of all time, but the day they can play Little Wing or Voodoo Chile (the blues version) then i'll doff my cap to them. ONly Stevie Ray Vaughan has come close with Little Wing, and Noone has come close with Voodoo Child nor Voodoo Chile. What about Catfish Blues as well ? Do you even know what that song sounds like ? How about Red House, my personal favourite Hendrix song. He wrote that in 8 minutes and yet its the sexiest song ive ever heard.

What do you know anyway Millers ? You are a right-winger ... shouldnt you hate ALL musicians ? After all, your favourite band, Pink Floyd, mate if they found out you were a Howard Lackie ... they'd piss all over you.

Dude i say you obviously aren't a guitarist and love Hendrix which is fair enough, but to say no one can play Little Wing & Voodoo chile is just like saying no one can can play Smells like Teen Spirit and Come as you are, they are actually very easy to play on the guitar, and any half decent guitarist will tell you that, most begginers start of on Hendrix these days, thats the truth, Foxy Lady, Purple Haze, Hey Joe are 3 of the easiest songs i've ever learnt, learnt all 3 in oneday when i was 15.

To play Hendrix means nothing these days and has been that way since 78, the guitar is alot more advanced these days. I'll give you an example:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZnnhoFg_Y&mode=related&search=


Tell me if Hendrix could do this, he couldn't, actually this video just shows how advanced the guitar has come since Hendrix, hell it even has classical in the guitar, as well as so much faster and way better execution.
 

millersnose

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cheese said:
....because we all know european culture had oh so much to do with the birth of rock'n'roll

yes

after all it came from swing





The euro's lay ownage to many a century of music. Not this and the last one though.

yeah

even michael jackson was black...well used to be
 

millersnose

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carcharias said:
c'mon then ...lets hear em .

huh?

bullsh*t.
Most blokes who use it these days do it because it is easy to play...and it gives a heavier sound.


sigh..

there are many reasons tunings are used
one of the most common is tuning the tope E to D o suit songs played in D

Any dumb fugger can play a guitar tuned to drop D .
I seriously doubt they would retune a guitar to drop D for any other reason than the song was originally written using that tuning.

....sigh...ok then
again ..bullsh*t.
Get your eyes checked...at 2.27 the song is effectively over and you can't even see the lead guitarist anyway...the only bloke with a guitar you can see is Bill Haley.
Even leading up to 2.27 minutes the lead guitarist is playing the outro riff.

yes

and bill plas rythm and the lead guitarest plays sweeteners

or do you think that in bands all the guitarests play the same chord at the same time?

It is E7 Millers....face up to it.
I know what I am talking about.
did your mother in law tell you?

the song in question being purple haze and the guitarist being Jimmy Hendrix.
I posted the exact way he plays that chord ...which notes he played on which frets.
I fuggen realise chords can be played in many differnet ways...

no you waffled about the position and implied it was somehow unique

it was played before in rocka nd roll


I have played guitar in bands for 20 years.

my first paying gig was in 1982

As for Bill Haley I will explain to you what he is playing.

If you play a C7 in the open position with your root note of C being on the 3rd fret then slide the whole chord shape up to where your 3rd finger is on the E note on the 7th fret.
And that is what he is playing.

again bill is the rythym guitarest

the lreal guitarest is not playing the same lines


and one other thing.
Jimmy Hendrix is known first and foremost as a guitarist...to even suggest he was famous for his singing is like saying John Holmes was famous for his exceptional acting abilities.

well he got radio play because people liked the songs and the way they are sung

but then some people like gimmicks...

'oh golly gosh jimmy can play behind his head and with his teeth......'
 

carcharias

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hahaha
2 days to come up with that hey Millers?

get out while you can.... you are getting flogged.

I am still waiting for some of these Beatles songs they played with Drop D tuning.

...or is it that every single tab site on the internet and every piece of sheet music for guitar ever printed that I know of has got it wrong ?
Even the official complete Beatles for guitar book that has every single song they ever recorded in it has it wrong?


On Bill Haley
The lead guitar player is not even playing THE chord in the ''sweeteners''.
He is playing things called inversions, triads and licks...you can even see him do it in the videos.
Please dont attempt to say that because he hits the ''G'' note in a lick that it therfore classes it as THE chord.

On Hendrix
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_newguitar.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitarists_of_all_time
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?doc_id=92250&src=3SOSWXXA

yeah it was his singing ....:)


FTR ..it is guitarist.

oh and...Again with the mother in law..

BWHAHAHAHAHA
It usually is your only fall back position when you have nothing.

stick with politics....I will take your word for it there.
 

millersnose

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carcharias said:
hahaha
2 days to come up with that hey Millers?

get out while you can.... you are getting flogged.

oh dear

claiming victory

so far you have given hendrix god like powers and used a chord as evidence

a standard chord used years before hendrix



I am still waiting for some of these Beatles songs they played with Drop D tuning.

...or is it that every single tab site on the internet and every piece of sheet music for guitar ever printed that I know of has got it wrong ?
Even the official complete Beatles for guitar book that has every single song they ever recorded in it has it wrong?

oh dear

Guitar Lessons - Drop D Tuning
Drop D Tuning was and is used by everyone from the Beatles to U2!
Hear the Drop D tuning in these songs:The Beatles-Dear Prudence(The White Album)

http://www.accessrock.com/AdvancedLessons/DropDtuning.asp

On Bill Haley
The lead guitar player is not even playing THE chord in the ''sweeteners''.
He is playing things called inversions, triads and licks...you can even see him do it in the videos.

nonsense

he is playing a mixture of chords and licks as most lead guitarests do


so there are lots of hendrixs fans...who denies that?

yeah it was his singing ....:)

sure was

you dont get to top the charts with a solo guitar album

show me which solo guitar album or song by hendrix topped the charts
 

millersnose

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it was born of swing which was born of a combination of everything from country and folk, which were europeean influenced, to jewish theater music - also european, to blues and jazz which had large black influences

swing bands were predominantly white with many trained classical composers doing the arranging
 

carcharias

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Quote:
Guitar Lessons - Drop D Tuning
Drop D Tuning was and is used by everyone from the Beatles to U2!
Hear the Drop D tuning in these songs:The Beatles-Dear Prudence(The White Album)


I said dear Prudence was the only one I knew of in this very thread right from the start.
remember?
drop D tuning ..yeah so what ?
The Beatles to my knowledge used it only once in Dear Prudence.
It is not a common thing to do ...unless they write the song with the guitar already tuned to Drop D....dadgbe.
http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=175263&page=7

Just quit man.


sure was
you dont get to top the charts with a solo guitar album
show me which solo guitar album or song by hendrix topped the charts

Show me one hit song of his where he only sang.

Although his solo rendition of the star spangled banner when he headlined Woodstock is regarded as one of the defining moments rock n roll.
So you could say that was a hit of sorts.
 

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carcharias said:
I said dear Prudence was the only one I knew of in this very thread right from the start.
remember?

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=175263&page=7

Just quit man.

where?

and in anycase either they did or they didnt

you seem to acknowledge now they did 2 posts after waffling about every beatles tab book being wrong....


Although his solo rendition of the star spangled banner when he headlined Woodstock is regarded as one of the defining moments rock n roll.
So you could say that was a hit of sorts.

lol

yeah

a real radio favorite that one


so your argument is jimi is an exceptional guitarest as evidenced by

1.some fan opinions
2.dropd tuning not being used by the beatles..but being used by the beatles
3. a rythym guitarest plays E7
4. you played guitar for 20 years
5. jimi played a chord that was used before
6. he can play the american national anthem


lol
 

cheese

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millersnose said:
it was born of swing which was born of a combination of everything from country and folk, which were europeean influenced, to jewish theater music - also european, to blues and jazz which had large black influences

swing bands were predominantly white with many trained classical composers doing the arranging

haha ..you're out of your league millers

Swing was a direct successor of dixieland jazz. "country, folk" hahahahah

Without New Orleans, there was no swing. The whole drawcard of swing was improvisation. Improvisation that guys like Louis pioneered in the previous decade.

On swingbands being predominately white, that had more to do with segregation than it did with who pioneered it. The heavyweights like Ellington still owned the era

But besides that, to say rock was born from swing is just plain wrong.

Rock was born from Rhythm & Blues.

Who do you think elvis listened to?!
 

millersnose

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cheese said:
haha ..you're out of your league millers

gosh

the floor is sticky from all this premature ejaculation


Swing was a direct successor of dixieland jazz. "country, folk" hahahahah

well thats your claim and you are welcome to it

unlike you i dont have an agenda to try to pretend influences on modern music are soely black

Without New Orleans, there was no swing. The whole drawcard of swing was improvisation. Improvisation that guys like Louis pioneered in the previous decade.



On swingbands being predominately white, that had more to do with segregation than it did with who pioneered it. The heavyweights like Ellington still owned the era


But besides that, to say rock was born from swing is just plain wrong.

Rock was born from Rhythm & Blues.

swing r&B country

i am not going to claim that rock had solely black roots

i will leave that to you and your agenda


Who do you think elvis listened to?!
carl perkins?
bill haley and the comets - often credited as the first true rock and roll band who started as a swing band...who were...white
 

bluesbreaker

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SRV could play Hendrix songs better than Hendrix could. Eric Clapton is twice as good as either of them. As for Hendrix fusing blues an rock :roll:... EC was doing it for bluesbreakers and Cream for years whilst Hendrix was just a sh*t backing guitar player for people like Sam Cooke. The only reason he's considered such a messiah is, just like Kurt, he died young.
 

cheese

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lol as I said. Out of your league.

I have no agenda's.

I'm as white as they come.

Billy haley wasn't the first. He was the first to reach the white audience.

Rock'n'roll would not be here without black Rhythm and blues. Pop music as we know it would not be without the african americans who pioneered it.

haha ...Oh but that's right ....Jewish folk music no doubt played a massive part
 

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millersnose said:
it was born of swing which was born of a combination of everything from country and folk, which were europeean influenced, to jewish theater music - also european, to blues and jazz which had large black influences

swing bands were predominantly white with many trained classical composers doing the arranging

it waz the jooooooooooooooooooossss with the tooooooooooonnnnnnssss!!!
 

carcharias

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where?

and in anycase either they did or they didnt

so you are saying that apart from the one I told you there are no more drop D songs by the Beatles?

Thanks ...I agree ....
hang on ...that is what I have said all along though.
 

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carcharias said:
so you are saying that apart from the one I told you there are no more drop D songs by the Beatles?

Thanks ...I agree ....
hang on ...that is what I have said all along though.

oh so you did

so they used drop d tuning...
 

millersnose

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cheese said:
lol as I said. Out of your league.

I have no agenda's.

yes you do

and that is to pretend there is no white influence on rock and roll

Billy haley wasn't the first. He was the first to reach the white audience.

well he is widely credited with being the first

and he was certainly the first of international prominaence



Rock'n'roll would not be here without black Rhythm and blues.

sure
Pop music as we know it would not be without the african americans who pioneered it.

and all the other influences - european

haha ...Oh but that's right ....Jewish folk music no doubt played a massive part

i didnt say jewish folk music

at this stage it would be pointless for me to explain people like gershwin and tinpan alley and their place in the history of popular music

but that would mean you would need to consider that non-blacks had influence in the development rock and thats just not going to happen
 

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