Hendrix...

[carcharias]

oh so you did

so they used drop d tuning...

In Dear Prudence yes...
I was correct the entire time ...then you proved it by posting a link to confirm it.

I am still waiting for you to name all these other beatles songs you reckon were written using drop D.
I better not hold my breath though.

 

[Kurt Angle]

EC was doing it for bluesbreakers and Cream for years whilst Hendrix was just a sh*t backing guitar player for people like Sam Cooke. The only reason he's considered such a messiah is, just like Kurt, he died young.

Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce formed Cream about 40 days before the Jimi Hendrix experience was formed.

Going along the lines of Ron Jeremy's argument about music has more than anything advanced.

EC inspired VH for sure, but back in 1996-7-8, Clapton wasn't playing anything back then that Hendrix couldn't play.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Dude i say you obviously aren't a guitarist and love Hendrix which is fair enough, but to say no one can play Little Wing & Voodoo chile is just like saying no one can can play Smells like Teen Spirit and Come as you are, they are actually very easy to play on the guitar, and any half decent guitarist will tell you that, most begginers start of on Hendrix these days, thats the truth, Foxy Lady, Purple Haze, Hey Joe are 3 of the easiest songs i've ever learnt, learnt all 3 in oneday when i was 15.

To play Hendrix means nothing these days and has been that way since 78, the guitar is alot more advanced these days. I'll give you an example:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZnnhoFg_Y&mode=related&search=


Tell me if Hendrix could do this, he couldn't, actually this video just shows how advanced the guitar has come since Hendrix, hell it even has classical in the guitar, as well as so much faster and way better execution.

The question isnt whether Hendrix could do this, its whether he would WANT to.

Seriously, what an awful f**king racket that is. Extremely skilled - yes But pleasing to the ear? Id rather listen to a Spice Girls album. f**king woeful.

 

[cheese]

yes you do

and that is to pretend there is no white influence on rock and roll



well he is widely credited with being the first

and he was certainly the first of international prominaence





sure


and all the other influences - european



i didnt say jewish folk music

at this stage it would be pointless for me to explain people like gershwin and tinpan alley and their place in the history of popular music

but that would mean you would need to consider that non-blacks had influence in the development rock and thats just not going to happen

Glad you mentioned Tin pan alley.

It was actually the era when black musicians and composers actually broke through the segregation barriers and gained a small portion of respect they deserved. Gershwin was a genius. His jazz influence is undeniable. I wonder what his finest piece, Porgy & Bess, was based on?

The main hallmark of tin-pan alley was rag time music. I wonder where rag time originated?? No need to answer, I know the answer. Ol' blacky was at it yet again.

But to the crux of it. Rock music was a by product of black r'n'b. No doubt whitey chipped in here and there, but it was overwhelmingly black african americans who pioneered the rag-time and jazz genre, and more importantly the Rhythm and Blues genre. The genre that was the predecessor of rock

 

[Ron Jeremy]

The question isnt whether Hendrix could do this, its whether he would WANT to.

Seriously, what an awful f**king racket that is. Extremely skilled - yes But pleasing to the ear? Id rather listen to a Spice Girls album. f**king woeful.

Well according to sales lists VH1 as the the highest selling guitar music book in history so i'm assuming alot of people:lol:

Yeah Jimi at Woodstock sounds better:lol: ........if you take away the wah pedal and poor execution:lol:

 

[Ron Jeremy]

The question isnt whether Hendrix could do this, its whether he would WANT to.

Seriously, what an awful f**king racket that is. Extremely skilled - yes But pleasing to the ear? Id rather listen to a Spice Girls album. f**king woeful.

So what you're saying is that all Vai, Satriani, Malmstein, Van Halen fans have no taste because they appreciate the beauty of lead guitar and what the instrument can do?

I'm also guessing you feel the same way about Hendrixs guitar then, right?:? nah let me guess it had soul:lol: so it's much more talented:lol:

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce formed Cream about 40 days before the Jimi Hendrix experience was formed.

Going along the lines of Ron Jeremy's argument about music has more than anything advanced.

EC inspired VH for sure, but back in 1996-7-8, Clapton wasn't playing anything back then that Hendrix couldn't play.

Clapton had perfect execution, style and structure with his playing imo, where as Hendrix' guitar playing was a mess, lacked structure and needed effect pedals too often.

 

[bluesbreaker]

Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce formed Cream about 40 days before the Jimi Hendrix experience was formed.

Going along the lines of Ron Jeremy's argument about music has more than anything advanced.

EC inspired VH for sure, but back in 1996-7-8, Clapton wasn't playing anything back then that Hendrix couldn't play.

Firstly, Hendrix wasn't playing much of anything in 96-7-8 ;-). Clapton however had a huge hit with Change the world in 96 (I believe?).

Please present me with an example of Hendrix playing ANYTHING remotely close to Clapton's playing on the studio version of Steppin' Out? How about Hendy having a dig at a 25 minute version of Crossroads?

How about some examples of his slide playing? I'll tell you now, nothing he played on slide could match EC playing on Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs... Or heck, even on his 20 minute Jams of those songs when touring with Allman (undisputably the greatest slide player of all time btw). I've never heard of anyone else being able to push Allman to his limits on slide... On another topic, I read in an interview with Gregg Allman that Duane taught himself how to play slide over a 12 month period. That's pretty incredible, especially to people like me who've been trying (and failing ) to play slide after like 8 years of messing around.

back on topic, what about Hendrix playing some accoustic stuff, without the use of a Wah peddle and a Leslie machine to fuzz over all the wrong notes he played?

EC owned Hendrix in all facets - technical playing, variety of styles, playing with feeling, singing and playing, slide guitar - outside of showmanship, and that'd be because EC was heavy into Heroin, and, therefore, on the nod, when he was doing his best playing. (edit: not really, it's all opinion) Claiming otherwise is stupidity.

 

[millersnose]

EC was just another blues player

jimi was special...we know this because he played an E7#9 (the beatles could only manage a D7#9 and not the much more difficult E7#9) and he could play with his teeth

 

[carcharias]

EC was just another blues player

jimi was special...we know this because he played an E7#9 (the beatles could only manage a D7#9 and not the much more difficult E7#9) and he could play with his teeth

hahaha

yeah but the lead guitarist from the comets played sweeteners and used voicings.
He also played unheard and unseen chords when the song was finished.


Hey millers can you please compare some more Beethoven and other boring as fug old man music made before electricity to Hendrix.
That is some funny stuff....almost a s funny as your ''hendrix was famous for his singing'' pearler.
I can just imagine the look on any one of these guitar legends faces if you said that to them.:lol:

 

[Iafeta]

Was wanting to know some other forummers opinions on his musical talents, i mean, i hear alot of talk about Van Halen being a great guitarist, a few people also rated frusiante, anyways, i watched Hendrix last night on Max classics, it was a concert 18 days before his death, and im not that into rock, i like it, but its not really my thing, but i though he was f*cking amazing, just wondering, especially from people who may play guitar, if they feel the same way, or do people feel he was overrated?

Mate he was amazing, he revolutionised guitaring completely. You only have to listen to a song like Voodoo Chile, which has fairly average vocals (but I think that's deliberate to contrast the guitaring to be honest) to realise the man's absolute brilliance and ownership of the guitar.

 

[Kurt Angle]

Firstly, Hendrix wasn't playing much of anything in 96-7-8 ;-). Clapton however had a huge hit with Change the world in 96 (I believe?).

OK, I meant the 1966-68 period, his "Are you experienced" to "Electric Ladyland" period.

Please present me with an example of Hendrix playing ANYTHING remotely close to Clapton's playing on the studio version of Steppin' Out?

Hendrix playing "Axis: Bold as Love" (The title track) in 1967, "And the Gods made Love" in 1968.

How about Hendy having a dig at a 25 minute version of Crossroads?

:lol:

How about listening to the albert hall live playing Crossroads and think the same way.

EC has become a very polished performer since 1966, but he was Hendrix roadkill circa 1966, and Clapton will admit that himself.. and I'm not pontificating as an absolutist Hendrix groupie here.

Now going back to EC's live playing in Cream, such as the second side of Wheels of Fire.. then compare to band of Gypsies... it is clear that in an ad lib environment, who could make the guiitar howl.. not just play 1 gazillion notes per bar perfectly.

If 1 gazillion bars was the objective was the objective music, we'd still be listening to short c**k rock.

 

[OVP]

Hendrix wrote the first ever Rap song ... Cross-town Traffic. Listen to it.

 

[OVP]

SRV could play Hendrix songs better than Hendrix could. Eric Clapton is twice as good as either of them. As for Hendrix fusing blues an rock :roll:... EC was doing it for bluesbreakers and Cream for years whilst Hendrix was just a sh*t backing guitar player for people like Sam Cooke. The only reason he's considered such a messiah is, just like Kurt, he died young.

Im a huge Stevie Ray Vaughan fan, and there's no way on earth he can come close to Hendrix. Only little wing, did he go close to matching the master. Dude, you are kidding if you call yourself the BLUESBREAKER. Hahahah, we've all had a good chuckle at your "blues" knowledge :lol:

What do you think of Robert Johnson ?

 

[millersnose]

Hendrix wrote the first ever Rap song ... Cross-town Traffic. Listen to it.

f**k me

is their no end to the amazing accomplishments of this heroin junkie

inventing rap
playing with his teeth
playing the E7#9 chord (the beatles could only manage the more simple D7#9)
ending world hunger

and..of course...he could play the US national anthem

f**k i take everything back...he wasnt just a blues player with a fuzzbox

 

[Ron Jeremy]

f**k me

is their no end to the amazing accomplishments of this heroin junkie

inventing rap
playing with his teeth
playing the E7#9 chord (the beatles could only manage the more simple D7#9)
ending world hunger

and..of course...he could play the US national anthem

f**k i take everything back...he wasnt just a blues player with a fuzzbox

lol but his music did have 'soul' and 'feeling':lol: that's why he is the best:lol:

 

[fat_mike]

i see hendrix like i see kiss. average musicians with sh*tloads of showmanship.

hendrix was more influential than technical brilliant. he's still the bloek that got me to pick up the guitar despite his playing sounding alot loppier and messy when compared to other greats.

 

[Muffdaddy]

Vernon Reid!!!!

Better than Vai, Van Halen, Malmsteen, Satriani and any of those other so-ne else you could recommend.
His versatility is way better than any of those guys mentioned above and anyone else.
Try listening to any Living Colour CD or DVD, his solo instrumental CDs, the live stuff he has done with The Roots, and his early jazz forays and then try imagine anyone else play with the soul, funk, jazz or blues that he has, and be able to pull off to his unbelievably massive chops and shreddability.
End of story (IMHO of course. Thats what forums are all about....)

As far as Hendrix goes, I don't think anyone here would really try and argue that he was very technical, same with SRV, but there is no-one that can really match their tone and the way they changed so many people's approach to the guitar.

 

[carcharias]

Vern rips.

 

[Steel Dragon]

Michael Winslow (the vocal sound guy from Police Academy) does a damn good Hendrix's guitar impersonation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFDJVTL6leE