How To Unravel The Myth Of A First Grade Imposter

[Rusty]

We really needed Dureau today!!!!!!!

 

[K-Man]

Can someone email this link to Brian Smith re: his ability to pick the worst team possible from the options available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

:lol::lol::lol: indeed

 

[Karmawave]

What a fabulous idea to rest Dureau from this game. He may not have made that much of a difference, but at least our kicking game would have been better because we would have had two options.

The only difference he would of made was the Raiders would have scored 50 points instead of 38 and we might have scored 26 or 28 points.

So naive of anyone here that thinks Dureau has ANY impact whatsoever in that poor defensive display today. :lol:

 

[Rusty]

The only difference he would of made was the Raiders would have scored 50 points instead of 38 and we might have scored 26 or 28 points.

So naive of anyone here that thinks Dureau has ANY impact whatsoever in that poor defensive display today. :lol:

He would of at least provided decent attacking options than the garbage we served up today. :crazy:

 

[Joker's Wild]

Dureau would have taken the pressure off Mullo but fair dinkum our disipline and hands killed us today. For once we were on the wrong end of the penalty count and throughly deserved it.

We dead set looked like pretenders today.

 

[cram]

THEY have been labelled the NRL's two most enterprising attacking teams, but Knights coach Brian Smith says Sunday's clash with the Raiders at Canberra Stadium will be won by whoever is willing to roll up their sleeves in defence.

Well that wasnt us...

 

[K-Man]

The only difference he would of made was the Raiders would have scored 50 points instead of 38 and we might have scored 26 or 28 points.

So naive of anyone here that thinks Dureau has ANY impact whatsoever in that poor defensive display today. :lol:

You're unbelievable. You do realise that controlling the game with field position, good long kicking game, discipline with penalties and errors etc is the best way to defend.

Having a halfback, ANY halfback in that team has the potential to change everything starting from the first set of six.

 

[Karmawave]

Exactly Cram, attack wasn't the problem.

Defense was.

As Phil Gould wrote in a column today, at this time of the year, you need to be able to score 18 points and be able to win the game through great defense.

Well we scored the 18 points.

Our defense and discipline was just rat sh*t.

Certainly nothing a different #7 changes all that much!

 

[Jobdog]

The only difference he would of made was the Raiders would have scored 50 points instead of 38 and we might have scored 26 or 28 points.

So naive of anyone here that thinks Dureau has ANY impact whatsoever in that poor defensive display today. :lol:

What part of "He may not have made that much of a difference" didn't you get? :crazy:

 

[Karmawave]

You're unbelievable. You do realise that controlling the game with field position, good long kicking game, discipline with penalties and errors etc is the best way to defend.

Having a halfback, ANY halfback in that team has the potential to change everything starting from the first set of six.

Yes mate, it was DISCIPLINE that was the downfall today.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Ok honestly, put your hands up in here who thinks having Dureau play today changes the END result of the game? A loss.

Hands up?

 

[K-Man]

"They certianly missed the direction of Scott Dureau in their halves, there's no doubt about that".

Another one from the radio commentary. I don't think anyone even realises he was dropped. They just call it as the see it, and they see a team that's been in red hot form missing it's halfback and lacking direction.

"It was tough for the Knights having to make those 5 changes and there was just no cohesion". Unforced changes, well done Smithy

 

[macavity]

karma can't even admit it when he is proven wrong.

dropping Dureau was one of the main reasons for our performance today. Mullo had his worst game in 12 months, because he was asked to do everything - and he isn't up to it. We had no direction, we had no discipline, we had no kicking game - we had no general.

 

[Jono078]

Yes mate, it was DISCIPLINE that was the downfall today.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Ok honestly, put your hands up in here who thinks having Dureau play today changes the END result of the game? A loss.

Hands up?

Andrew Johns used to fix our defense when he returned in matches..



:sarcasm::crazy:

 

[Karmawave]

The thing is, as much as the decision to DROP Dureau amused me and didn't suprise me all that much, I certainly don't agree with it.

I can't believe the coach changed the winning team at all! Dureau included.

There should not have been any changes made from last week, apart from injuries.

It was just a brain explosion by Smith.

 

[Karmawave]

karma can't even admit it when he is proven wrong.

Hang on, it amused me Smith dropped him, I certainly never claimed it was a masterstroke :lol: I never dropped Dureau :lol:

It was a disgrace that Smith changed a WINNING team.


And not once did I say any different.

 

[Whats Doing]

We really needed Dureau today!!!!!!!

Dureau would not habe made one iotta of difference.

We got beat in the middle of the ruck where we ridicously went in with non match fit forwards.

We got dominated in the first 20 with Royal, Karawana and Tolar totally dominated and Hilder, Wicks just plain pitiful.

Thats 5 forwards who were not in the match at all on top of the mistakes and penalties given away.

Dureau would not have madew any difference and the anger should be directed towarss the coach for dropping players in form and promoting a bunch of players who were not match fit.

 

[K-Man]

Explain to me how in the Joey days we were able to go from impressive victories one week with Johns to MASSIVE 50 point hidings the next week if he was missing?

By your theory Karma Johns being there or not being there shouldn't affect our defence too much, so perhaps instead of losing 24-16 with him playing we might lose 24-6 without him. But we would actually get belted!!!!!!!! WHY? because attack is the best form of defence. It's not always just about tackles and missed tackles. It's about the momentum of the game, the ebb and flow. Joey wasn't making up for the 50 missed tackles all by himself. He was helping the entire team to play better football, and therefore by default not leaking as many points.
But take out of the side and we suddenly looked a defensive rabble. Of course our attack became non existant, but how does it explain the defence? Coincidence?

When you play well with the football it helps you play well without the football. I'm not saying Dureay is like Johns by the way. I'm just pointing out that you can never be sure of the difference one playmaker can make because the whole flow of the match can be altered by their presence.

When we didn't score after the Sau break, what if Dureau had been there for that las play? What if having that kind of player to make the play had led to a try rather than it all just fizzling out? The game could have been different, you just don't know.

 

[antonius]

Making 5 changes to a team that was unbeaten for 3 in a row shows me why Smith has never won a premiership. All those who were prattling on about not needing Dureau because we could use Mullen and Kidley as halves (because forget Marvin (He hardly played) that's what we had) can eat humle pie. With no Dureau we had no variation, no other option to keep the opposition guessing, no last tackle options, no kicking game, Zero, Zilch. Dureau being there would've fixed all that, Karma can quote Phil Gould all he wants, Dureau would've made a difference, I said before the game if Smith made those changes we'd get lapped and we got lapped and we now don't make the eight, Well done Smithy, I also said if the changes came off you'd be a supercoach...well you aint. As for the other changes none of them came off, White has been better than all the forwards that were brought in today, and the same can be said for Kaufua. Those guys would've given us better defence, and more room for the halves, Smith f#cked up.

 

[Whats Doing]

Making 5 changes to a team that was unbeaten for 3 in a row shows me why Smith has never won a premiership. All those who were prattling on about not needing Dureau because we could use Mullen and Kidley as halves (because forget Marvin (He hardly played) that's what we had) can eat humle pie. With no Dureau we had no variation, no other option to keep the opposition guessing, no last tackle options, no kicking game, Zero, Zilch. Dureau being there would've fixed all that, Karma can quote Phil Gould all he wants, Dureau would've made a difference, I said before the game if Smith made those changes we'd get lapped and we got lapped and we now don't make the eight, Well done Smithy, I also said if the changes came off you'd be a supercoach...well you aint. As for the other changes none of them came off, White has been better than all the forwards that were brought in today, and the same can be said for Kaufua. Those guys would've given us better defence, and more room for the halves, Smith f#cked up.

We got beaten in the forwards and thats where we lost the game. Dureau would not have made any difference when we were getting pummelled by having non match fit forwards. Now matter what halves are in place, if the forwards are getting beaten badly and not going forward, the halves won't make an impact at all. Lets get real and stop the agendas.

Why change the team that has won 3 games straight. Maybe one but not five. The real culprit was the coach, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[antonius]

We got beaten in the forwards and thats where we lost the game. Dureau would not have made any difference when we were getting pummelled by having non match fit forwards. Now matter what halves are in place, if the forwards are getting beaten badly and not going forward, the halves won't make an impact at all. Lets get real and stop the agendas.

Why change the team that has won 3 games straight. Maybe one but not five. The real culprit was the coach, nothing more, nothing less.

I agree with you we shouldn't have changed a winning team, and that includes playing Dureau. If you think the side is better without Dureau then I disagree with you.