Howard trade

[andrew057]

Lakers will dominate more in the post now than they ever did with Bynum. Howard is much quicker and more explosive plus you have one the best PG's in the league running the pick and roll. They have the edge over Miami, and most other teams in the league now in that respect.

Nash running the point is the most important element though. His experience on that team will be something special, similar (but even more so) to how important Billups is to LAC.

Bynums post game shits on Howards. But as you mentioned Howard + Nash will more than make up for the loss offensively of trading Bynum.

 

[BunniesMan]

False comparison because the trade wasn't Bynum for Howard and Nash.

 

[HowHigh]

People that think the Lakers are now better than the Heat STILL underestimate how good Lebron is.

Oh god......

 

[Grapple]

Bynums post game shits on Howards. But as you mentioned Howard + Nash will more than make up for the loss offensively of trading Bynum.

No chance. He might be stronger, but no way is he better in the post.

False comparison because the trade wasn't Bynum for Howard and Nash.

What comparison?

 

[HowHigh]

On topic though I think this should take the Lakers back to the NBA finals if they can stay healthy.
Not looking forward to a finals match up with them now..

 

[simostorm]

Id love to see Lakers vs Heat, Kobe vs LeBron..

 

[HowHigh]

It's actually a bit of a shame we haven't had a chance to see a Kobe vs Lebron rivalry develop in the NBA finals.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Bynum only plays half the games anyway. Howard played last year with a bad back and dreaming of being in BK and still did better than Bynum who Played his best ever season.

What does thinking LAL can beat the heat have to do with under estimating Lebrick? Stop dickriding. Apart from the Lebrick-Metta matchup the Lakers are stronger in the starting lineup then you get down to streaky Miami shooters who are on or off. Who on that Miami team is stopping Howard & Gasol? The most injury prone player of the two teams is on Miami anyway.

 

[Big Mick]

The bad thing about this trade is that realistically...the NBA title is just going to be confined to 4-5 teams - Miami, LA Lakers, OKC & maybe the Clippers & Bulls (pending D.Rose fitness).

That can't be good for the NBA surely? Like if you were a Cav's fan...yeah you got a young, exciting team...or the T-Wolves...but realistically the furthest you are going is 2nd round of the Play-offs..

Shame there can't be more of a talent spread.

 

[BunniesMan]

People see Howard as the best centre in the world and they assume he's fantastic offensively. He's not. He will be contained by an elite defense like Miami.

And in crunch time we're gunna play without a PG. Nash is going to get destroyed by either Ray or Wade.

And Lebron shut Rose down in 2011. He can shut Nash down if necessary.

Kobe is declining. I can easily imagine a scenario where he's not much more than a streak shooter. He doesn't beat many guards off the dribble anymore.

AND the million dollar question is chemistry. There is no guarantee Dwight will click with these guys. In terms of personality you don't get much more different than Nash/Kobe and Dwight. And how will Dwight enjoy being the 3rd option in attack.

 

[BunniesMan]

Also both Kobe and Nash are well over due for a major injury at their age.

The bad thing about this trade is that realistically...the NBA title is just going to be confined to 4-5 teams - Miami, LA Lakers, OKC & maybe the Clippers & Bulls (pending D.Rose fitness).

That can't be good for the NBA surely? Like if you were a Cav's fan...yeah you got a young, exciting team...or the T-Wolves...but realistically the furthest you are going is 2nd round of the Play-offs..

Shame there can't be more of a talent spread.

The new CBA was meant to stop that. Everyone said the owners bent the players over and won. Well it hasn't changed shit.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

People see Howard as the best centre in the world and they assume he's fantastic offensively. He's not. He will be contained by an elite defense like Miami.

And in crunch time we're gunna play without a PG. Nash is going to get destroyed by either Ray or Wade.

And Lebron shut Rose down in 2011. He can shut Nash down if necessary.

Kobe is declining. I can easily imagine a scenario where he's not much more than a streak shooter. He doesn't beat many guards off the dribble anymore.

AND the million dollar question is chemistry. There is no guarantee Dwight will click with these guys. In terms of personality you don't get much more different than Nash/Kobe and Dwight. And how will Dwight enjoy being the 3rd option in attack.

Who on Miami, better yet the league, can contain Howard?

Your dribble is hilarious. You're scared.

 

[Big Mick]

People see Howard as the best centre in the world and they assume he's fantastic offensively. He's not. He will be contained by an elite defense like Miami.

And in crunch time we're gunna play without a PG. Nash is going to get destroyed by either Ray or Wade.

And Lebron shut Rose down in 2011. He can shut Nash down if necessary.

Kobe is declining. I can easily imagine a scenario where he's not much more than a streak shooter. He doesn't beat many guards off the dribble anymore.

AND the million dollar question is chemistry. There is no guarantee Dwight will click with these guys. In terms of personality you don't get much more different than Nash/Kobe and Dwight. And how will Dwight enjoy being the 3rd option in attack.

And YOU underestimate how great Dwight is defensively. You aint getting any cheap points in the paint like you got this year ALL finals...

And you say he shut Rose down...yeah he did but Nash is a facilitator not a scorer. They are better served having Lebron on him in crunch time because then your best defender is occupying someone who wont shoot the ultimate shot.

As for Kobe. He wont have to dribble/drive. He can be a spot-up shooter...which if you look at his stats over the last 3-4 years has been shooting at a clip of between 55-65% of shots...pretty awesome and will only get better now that Nash will put him in the right spot all the time.

THEN you have Gasol just hanging on the perimeter...marked by Joel Anthony or Bosh lol. And Gasol just jacking up corner three's all day.

Kobe has already said last night...It is Dwights team now. He knows it has to be for Dwight to be Dwight. And matching up Nash and Dwight in a pick and roll game is just scary. Nash made Amare look like a great center...what is he going to do with someone of Dwights athleticism. And when that isn't available...he'll have open Kobe or open Gasol ready to hit the spot up jumper.

Your elite defense...doesn't and wont have an answer for this combination. You just need to hope that the Thunder can beat them...as Perkins gives Dwight headaches for some reason.

 

[Grapple]

BM, did you see how the impact Hibbert had in the middle against Miami in this years playoffs? And that's Roy Hibbert not Dwight Howard!

As for the CBA, that only applies to teams that David Stern doesn't love. Lakers, Celtics and now Miami are his favourites. So they'll continue to get favour for their franchise's global appeal and advertising revenue.

 

[Big Mick]

Garbage. If Stern loved the Lakers...they'd have Chris Paul as their PG right now

 

[simostorm]

Pau and Howard equals trouble for Miami.. Howard's defence in the middle will cut a lot of Miamis drive and kick strategy away. Howard will take care of the paint and it will allow man to man defence on the perimeter shooters.. its Howard's defence that is the key.. but add in rebounds and put backs.. he's a lethal addition.

 

[Grapple]

Garbage. If Stern loved the Lakers...they'd have Chris Paul as their PG right now

Not when the league owned team didn't get anything in return.

 

[ByRd]

BM, can you talk anymore sh!t outta your a$$, you mad and you scared!!!

 

[BunniesMan]

The Lakers now have a lot of talent but before they even get to Miami they don't match well with OKC.

OKC has Perkins who can neutralize Dwight. Then you have Durant/Harden/Westbrook which IMO is way better than what the Lakers have on the perimeter.

Yesterday I said they're certainties to get to the finals. Now, I'm not convinced they get past OKC.

Who on Miami, better yet the league, can contain Howard?

Your dribble is hilarious. You're scared.

He has only one season scoring about 21ppg. He is not an elite player offensively. The definition of "not elite" is "containable".

These Lakers will be a very good defensive team but they won't be as good offensively as people think.

 

[Grapple]

The Lakers now have a lot of talent but before they even get to Miami they don't match well with OKC.

OKC has Perkins who can neutralize Dwight. Then you have Durant/Harden/Westbrook which IMO is way better than what the Lakers have on the perimeter.

Yesterday I said they're certainties to get to the finals. Now, I'm not convinced they get past OKC.


He has only one season scoring about 21ppg. He is not an elite player offensively. The definition of "not elite" is "containable".

These Lakers will be a very good defensive team but they won't be as good offensively as people think.

You're forgetting that they have Nash at PG running the floor, who's the best PG Lakers have had in a LONG time and was second in assists last year. No doubt they weren't as good last year as Miami or OKC offensively, they will improve dramatically this season you'd have to think.