I bit off more than I could chew at Eels - Kearney

[Poupou Escobar]

Don't be a f**kwit. He broke you down well IMO.

Possibly. All I saw was a wall of text with the first sentence bullshit.

But lingard makes shit up in his endless quest to put me in my place. If you've got a problem with me you're likely to see any such attempt as a resounding success, as proven by your "Me too!" reply.

It wouldn't really matter what he said. As long as I'm the target some whiny bitch or other will go out of their way to offer congratulations.

It's just typical internet forum in-group bullshit. It just makes you look pathetic.

 

[bartman]

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[Poupou Escobar]

But why is it still relevant months later, and in this thread? Why the need to keep seeking your version of "balance"?

Yeah sorry, I should have realised dissenting viewpoints did nothing to help us feel smug about our opinions.

How dare some merkin with an opposing view interrupt the massive Blame Kearney! circle jerk you're having here.

 

[bartman]

Everyone's moved on Pou. As has been outlined, your "dissenting viewpoint" has no real relevance to the thread. In other words, it's been found out as a poor effort at trolling your fellow supporters. (Followed by some Alan Jones "play the victim" responses for good measure.)

Lingard had you spotted well imo. It's all very boring mate - but nothing that a new user name and style over the off season can't fix for you.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Everyone's moved on Pou.

Sorry, I thought people were saying we will be poor next year because of Kearney.

I must have mis-read.

As has been outlined, your "dissenting viewpoint" has no real relevance to the thread.

I think we agree that a dissenting viewpoint has no relevance to any thread. Message received. :lol:

 

[bartman]

Sorry, I thought people were saying we will be poor next year because of Kearney.

I must have mis-read.

Moved on from this imaginary hate that you felt you needed to balance in this thread. So what if people say we'll be poor because of Kearney? That's a load different from claiming hatred and trolling the thread off topic with your nonsense paranoia... but as a troll of course you already know that.

I think we agree that a dissenting viewpoint has no relevance to any thread. Message received. :lol:

Replace "a dissenting viewpoint" with "your pointless trolling" and you might be getting close ;-).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Moved on from this imaginary hate

You mean the hate that both myself and Eelementary imagined?

What are the chances hey?

For a person who makes shit up, you spend a lot of time accusing others of the same.

We call that 'projection'.

that you felt you needed to balance in this thread. So what if people say we'll be poor because of Kearney?

And so what if some say we might go well because of him? There seems to be a lot of hostility toward the idea, which flies in the face of the 'nobody hates Kearney' line.

That's a load different from claiming hatred and trolling the thread off topic with your nonsense paranoia... but as a troll of course you already know that.

Off topic? I was responding to EelsFan05's 'Kearney love' comment. Why didn't you get up him from going of topic instead of chasing me around every thread? ;-)

Replace "a dissenting viewpoint" with "your pointless trolling" and you might be getting close ;-).

Yeah see above you weak gutted hypocrite. :lol:

 

[bartman]

You mean the hate that both myself and Eelementary imagined?

What are the chances hey?

Imaginary hate in this thread. Read and quote the full sentences, if you want to have a reasoned discussion.

And so what if some say we might go well because of him? There seems to be a lot of hostility toward the idea, which flies in the face of the 'nobody hates Kearney' line.

Not really. And again, nobody (especially here, now, in this thread) hates Kearney. Imagined hostility as well as imagined hate... a side effect of ptsd perhaps?

Off topic? I was responding to EelsFan05's 'Kearney love' comment. Why didn't you get up him from going of topic instead of chasing me around every thread? ;-)

You wouldn't know what on topic was Pou :lol:. And I'm just replying sticking to you in this thread, not chasing you anywhere else.... imagined paranoia again.

Yeah see above you weak gutted hypocrite. :lol:

Yeah... nah. Stick a fork in him, he's done - two nights in a row! ;-)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Imaginary hate in this thread.

I didn't realise there were forum rules forcing us to forget details mentioned in other threads.

Read and quote the full sentences, if you want to have a reasoned discussion.

Since you're making the rules, why not make it full paragraphs?

Not really. And again, nobody (especially here, now, in this thread) hates Kearney. Imagined hostility as well as imagined hate... a side effect of ptsd perhaps?

You'd have to ask Eelementary. He's imagining the same thing.

You wouldn't know what on topic was Pou :lol:.

Playing the man again? Looking forward to you accusing others of the same. :lol:

And I'm just replying sticking to you in this thread, not chasing you anywhere else.... imagined paranoia again.

So again, why didn't you chuck a hissy fit at EelsFan05's comment taking the thread off topic?

If you're going to be the unofficial forum police, bart, you need to enforce the law equally.

Yeah... nah. Stick a fork in him, he's done - two nights in a row! ;-)

Yes you have made this claim two nights in a row. I'm sure you'll make the same claim tomorrow. ;-)

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Nobody hates Stephen Kearney. Everybody hates the results he had with Parramatta. You`re barking up the wrong tree. From the outset you assumed that the majority of forumites have very little knowledge of football, and that they blamed everything on the coach because they couldn`t see that making a football team successful is rather more complicated than just having a 'good' coach. And so, to create some balance, you decided to support the coach. You went so far with this that you ended up making statements that, I`m sure, even you didn`t believe. But you made a big mistake. Because most, if not all, people on this forum know a great bloody deal about football. We all know lots about different facets and different angles and different perspectives of the game - including you. Rugby League is not a simple game. There are thousands of different ways to approach it. Most people understand that. Most people understand that many different ingredients go into making a successful side - not just a 'good' coach. I think nearly everyone here can see that. But nearly everyone here could ALSO see that Stephen Kearney was a huge factor in our continued lack of on-field sucess. He was becoming more and more the biggest problem this club had. And also the simplest problem to solve. By, in effect, playing the opposite of devil`s advocate, you made yourself appear as one of the least knowledgeable footy fans on this forum. And I`m sure you`re not.

Nailed it!

Brilliant post mate. Well summed up.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nailed it!

Brilliant post mate. Well summed up.

Except plenty of merkins hate Steve Kearney. lingard's full of shit.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Huh. I guess I missed that amendment to the Oxford English Dictionary explaining that terms such as "genius", "clown", "f**ker" and "tool" (to name but a few) are now terms of endearment and/or slight indifference...

Logically, people shouldn't hate the guy, but some of the vitriol spewed forth onto these virtual pages by some of the people here indicates otherwise. I mean, it's perfectly fine to criticise him as a coach for under-performing - he deserves it. But to call a man (or woman, as the case may be) a "clown" or "genius" does not lead to productive criticism of the coach's tenure, but rather opens the door to personal attacks - a door which I'm sure is totally justified in many people's minds, but not to me.

Spot on mate.

 

[JoeyJoJo83]

Is it me, or do people have too much time on their hands :?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Talking about the merkin with thirty thousand posts?

 

[Sphagnum]

Since Ian walsh, SK is the first coach to leave us with a wooden spoon.

In what crazy Mexican universe is that considered 'leaving us in better shape than any coach since Brian Smith'?

Don't make up salary cap bs either. You have no idea how much room we have so it will all be purely speculation. One thing we do know is that SK spent some quality dollars on rubbish players like Sandow, Roberts and Esi Tonga. Arguably as terrible as hicks, walker and webb.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Except plenty of merkins hate Steve Kearney. lingard's full of shit.

We're onto you and your bullshit.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Since Ian walsh, SK is the first coach to leave us with a wooden spoon.

In what crazy Mexican universe is that considered 'leaving us in better shape than any coach since Brian Smith'?

Don't make up salary cap bs either. You have no idea how much room we have so it will all be purely speculation. One thing we do know is that SK spent some quality dollars on rubbish players like Sandow, Roberts and Esi Tonga. Arguably as terrible as hicks, walker and webb.

A wooden spoon doesn't hurt anyone's future prospects. It's not like we got relegated to a lower division. The last four wooden spooners all bounced back and so will we.

Sandow and Tonga have massive quality. Roberts is capable of winning games on his own. Hopoate and Lussick are both young with loads of ability.

 

[Sphagnum]

A wooden spoon doesn't hurt anyone's future prospects. It's not like we got relegated to a lower division. The last four wooden spooners all bounced back and so will we.

Sandow and Tonga have massive quality. Roberts is capable of winning games on his own. Hopoate and Lussick are both young with loads of ability.

A wooden spoon affects your ability to sign outside talent. It suggests that a club is currently rebuilding/in need of a shake up and is not desirable to experienced first graders looking for job satisfaction in a team that has a chance of being successful.

Hopoate will be attempting to do the improbable.

Lussick does some really dumb shit on the footy field. He threw a flick pass on the 2nd tackle in his own 20 late in one of the semis (can't remember which one) whilst the game was still in the balance. I know we play Parraball with the best of them but it was a very stupid play.

I know it's not fair to base an assessment on one thing but I've seen him drop easy ball and get baited into melee as well which all smacks of poor discipline.

After hearing he had signed with us, I paid a lot more attention to him and I have to say, I have my doubts based on what I've seen. Having said that, he is still only young and may improve significantly over time.

 

[emjaycee]

One thing we do know is that SK spent some quality dollars on rubbish players like Sandow, Roberts and Esi Tonga.

How much did he spend on each of these please?

EDIT: Oh and a link to either the ATO, their Player Agents books or a scanned copy of their contract will suffice as proof in this case.

 

[Sphagnum]

How much did he spend on each of these please?

EDIT: Oh and a link to either the ATO, their Player Agents books or a scanned copy of their contract will suffice as proof in this case.

Anymore than zero hasn't been a good investment. What makes the dollar quality is not the amount, it's what it was used to purchase.

The numbers are irrelevant.