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Happy MEel

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I think Root is a smarmy little douche but i think he showed plenty of ticker to come out in the first place, the medical staff would of probably stopped him even if he tried. Especially in a losing cause.
I know I sound like a broken record but someone that far gone can not play our pace attack like Root did today. We had some poms around us today and they were blown away he didn’t return after lunch.
 

Happy MEel

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Exactly.
As I said, I'm not going to judge him because I don't know the full medical circumstances.
That would be Bartman-esque to do so.
Do you think our health system is in the market of releasing patients if they’re not medically fit?
 

Bazal

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Nothing a few hydrolytes and Imodiums won’t fix for a few hours. It’s much more about what his team mates think of his utter determination to not losing than it is about the few hours of discomfort he had to go through today. If I’m in India bowling in 40 degree heat and I look at my captain who asks me to dig in for a few more overs for that partnership breaking wicket, I’m going to respond to the guy who pushed through adversity in Sydney and did everything in his power to save a test match than the guy who retired ill and fell asleep for the presentation.

And I've just realised you have no idea what you're talking about. No offence.

I've had proper norovirus. Once only, thank f**k. If you're bad enough to spend the entire night on a drip in ED, imodium is like taking childrens panadol for a migraine...or do you think they stick a drip in any muppet who walks into the ED?
 

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He had a viral infection which gastro is, he can be released with antibiotic medication, no need to be kept in hospital for that.

Hard to bat while you are unconscious in the dressing rooms. Maybe if he passed out on the pitch he'd be a hero.
 

Bazal

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He had a viral infection which gastro is, he can be released with antibiotic medication, no need to be kept in hospital for that.
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Well he could, but it would be the definition of pointless giving him antibiotics.
 

Suitman

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Do you think our health system is in the market of releasing patients if they’re not medically fit?

Medically fit for what? Playing a physical sport in 35 degree heat just after being released from hospital?
I'm going to place my faith in the Pommy doctors here.
The fact that he couldn't front the presentation tells me he wasn't well enough to bat.
It think you're being harsh.
 

Happy MEel

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Yeah I don’t buy it. I haven’t seen anything to suggest he has Norovirus. @Bazal do you think you could face up to 145km/hr bowling when you had it?
 

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Yeah I don’t buy it. I haven’t seen anything to suggest he has Norovirus

Twizzle said:
At the presser after the game Anderson said Root had not slept or ate all night and on top of that he had the squirts and kept vomiting and could not keep anything down, including medication

I called it squirts, Anderson called it gastro, same thing
 

Happy MEel

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Medically fit for what? Playing a physical sport in 35 degree heat just after being released from hospital?
I'm going to place my faith in the Pommy doctors here.
The fact that he couldn't front the presentation tells me he wasn't well enough to bat.
It think you're being harsh.
Perhaps...but I remember Graham Smith coming out to try and save a test with a broken hand, surely against docs orders, and we can rattle off countless league players who have played through injuries as leaders. Why is this any different?
 

Happy MEel

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There is medication you can get to restrict vomiting and diarrhoea, if only a temporary measure. It works for a while, trust me.
 

Suitman

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Perhaps...but I remember Graham Smith coming out to try and save a test with a broken hand, surely against docs orders, and we can rattle off countless league players who have played through injuries as leaders. Why is this any different?

You're now clutching at straws.
Rick McCosker batted with a broken jaw in the 70's. It wouldn't be allowed now. Player welfare and stuff.
As I said, I don't know how unwell he was, so I'm not going to comment. I'll trust his medical staff to decide that.
You obviously have inside information, hence why you think he's a soft cock.
 

Bazal

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Yeah I don’t buy it. I haven’t seen anything to suggest he has Norovirus. @Bazal do you think you could face up to 145km/hr bowling when you had it?

I can't face up to 145km bowling now so I don't see how that's at all relevant tbh.

But anyway...

England captain Joe Root has reached his half-century at the SCG after being hospitalised with a viral gastroenteritis bug prior to the start of day five of the final Ashes Test in Sydney.

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Viral gastroenteritis is a common infection of the stomach and intestines that results in vomiting and diarrhoea. It can be caused by a number of different viruses, such as rotavirus and norovirus

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Rotavirus is the world's most common cause of diarrhea in infants and young children. Norovirus is the most common cause of serious gastroenteritis

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Adults do not get a drip for rotavirus. Rotavirus is what you have no doubt had when you've had the trots for a day or so and called in sick to work. It's not very serious. Therefore, based on the evidence, he has a norovirus infection, given that other causes of severe gastro are bacterial.

Quite simple, really.
 

Bazal

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There is medication you can get to restrict vomiting and diarrhoea, if only a temporary measure. It works for a while, trust me.

You can probably trust Root as well. Came out after a series of drips that no doubt included an anti-emetic and an anti-diarrheal medication (which can be effective for up to 8 hours depending on dose), batted for a bit in the heat, realised that the bounce back effect is very real and he was not actually better, retired ill.
 

Happy MEel

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You're now clutching at straws.
Rick McCosker batted with a broken jaw in the 70's. It wouldn't be allowed now. Player welfare and stuff.
As I said, I don't know how unwell he was, so I'm not going to comment. I'll trust his medical staff to decide that.
You obviously have inside information, hence why you think he's a soft c**k.
It absolutely happens in professional sport...Sam Burgess in the GF in 2014 and I already gave a cricket example in Smith. It absolutely happens and leaders recognise it’s more about future success than the individual game!!
 

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It absolutely happens in professional sport...Sam Burgess in the GF in 2014 and I already gave a cricket example in Smith. It absolutely happens and leaders recognise it’s more about future success than the individual game!!

You refused though my quote about you knowing his full medical condition. Clearly you have that inside information and know that against possible doctors advice, or just plainly feeling so unwell that he could not continue, that in your opinion, he just took the soft option.
You can make that call if you like.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and in all honesty, I'd trust his players to make a call about his condition over you any day.
As I said, I think you're being harsh when you don't know his condition or the true facts. Your choice of course.

On a side note, I thought it was a nice touch today to let fans on the field for the presentation, of which you were one. Thanks for the pic of that.
 

Happy MEel

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You refused though my quote about you knowing his full medical condition. Clearly you have that inside information and know that against possible doctors advice, or just plainly feeling so unwell that he could not continue, that in your opinion, he just took the soft option.
You can make that call if you like.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and in all honesty, I'd trust his players to make a call about his condition over you any day.
As I said, I think you're being harsh when you don't know his condition or the true facts. Your choice of course.

On a side note, I thought it was a nice touch today to let fans on the field for the presentation, of which you were one. Thanks for the pic of that.
Fair enough mate. Let’s agree to disagree. I clearly don’t know the actual medical diagnosis and am purely going off the fact he came out and played pretty bloody well for an hour.

100% agree about your side note. It was bloody awesome to set foot on the SCG after an Ashes win and I think other sports should take note. Well done ACA
 

Happy MEel

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I can't face up to 145km bowling now so I don't see how that's at all relevant tbh.

But anyway...



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Adults do not get a drip for rotavirus. Rotavirus is what you have no doubt had when you've had the trots for a day or so and called in sick to work. It's not very serious. Therefore, based on the evidence, he has a norovirus infection, given that other causes of severe gastro are bacterial.

Quite simple, really.
From previous posts I reckon you have played reasonably high grade cricket. (Who knows...We may have even played in the same side at Oakhill considering you were only a few years younger than me). Do you think you could have faced up comfortably to probably the best attack you have ever come up against when you were suffering Norovirus?
 

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