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I guess cheats do prosper......

webbland

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i'd rather watch porn than these two cheating parasites.the game will be that boring and sanitised to please the "money men"no softening up period,just boring ,robotic, grid trained gorillas doing what 2 narcissistic fake gods tell them to.
bring your drip trays!!!!!!!!
 

Elektrik Shock

Juniors
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i'd rather watch porn than these two cheating parasites.the game will be that boring and sanitised to please the "money men"no softening up period,just boring ,robotic, grid trained gorillas doing what 2 narcissistic fake gods tell them to.
bring your drip trays!!!!!!!!

Your tears taste so sweet.
 

ek999

First Grade
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i'd rather watch porn than these two cheating parasites.the game will be that boring and sanitised to please the "money men"no softening up period,just boring ,robotic, grid trained gorillas doing what 2 narcissistic fake gods tell them to.
bring your drip trays!!!!!!!!

Bulldogs are boring and robotic yet have scored the most long ranged tries and have had the most offloads this year?

I feel sorry for the people who say they aren't going to watch because they hate the teams. The 2 best teams all year playing each other in what could be an absolute classic. Why miss it?
 

bottle

Coach
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People need to keep their hatin' and not watchin' posts to the hatin' and not watchin' threads. The theme of this thread is entirely different in nature and is a discussion that can be had in a calm and detached manner really.

The OP posits a simple premise, that it pays to cheat. The premise is sound, the facts supprt it. For just a moment ignore the club colours and logos in play and consider the issues surrounding the exposed cheating.

A team wins a couple of Premmys and is later found to have cheated the cap quite substantially. There are tut-tuts but no consequences of any substance other than financial. The titles stand. Win.

Years later another team is found out prior to season's end and is stripped of points preventing them from contesting that year. However two years later, with substantially the same squad, they go on to win the title. An argument can be mounted that they were still benefitting from putting a team on the park that had been built by the cheating. Who cares? It's in the record books. Win.

Some further years later a third team is found out after scoring a couple of titles. This time the titles are stripped and measures put in place to punish them in the then current year. However two years later they are in the running for another shot. Again they still have a core group of players (indeed some considered the best in their positions, if not the wolrd, and in some cases argued the 'best of all time') that many consider are only still playing together beacuse of the initial cheating. They are a big chance to take it out. If so, win.

Meanwhile many other clubs have been bleeding talent to the above mentioned clubs, and others, because they have either adhered to the rules, or have been financially or administratively incapable of rorting the system. They haven't had the same measure of success as a consequence. Loss.

Conclusion, if you can afford it, it pays to try and rort the cap. You may get caught and retrospectively punished. However ultimately the punishments can not, currently, punish you sufficiently enough to damage your future chances if you can manage to retain the bulk, or critical core, of the playing group built up during the cheating. The benefits will come. In other words, win.

Under this current scenario any club not trying to rort the system is denying itself a chance. Some clubs can't afford the extra expenditures required though, so they are at a disadvantage.

I wish my club was wealthy enough to engage in the ploy, or that I was in a position to help enable it.

It pays to cheat.
 
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There needs to be a list of tards talking about watching the VFL on here drawn up and posted as a sticky to remind everyone which tossers to absolutely give it to from this point on, at any opportunity.

Absolutely agree with this
the people who are saying that need to pull their heads out of their arses and f**k off.......even the lol circle jerkers have more credibility than them

This is Going to be a cracker of a Match
 
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siv

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I still can't figure how the Dogs were able to sign 2 international backs mid season and get away with it
 

ek999

First Grade
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Inu was playing reserve grade and his career was going nowhere. It was widely reported the Dogs are only paying him $50k this year and the Warriors the difference. Perrett wanted out of the Roosters and only had 4 and a bit months left until his contract ended on 1 November. $200k (estimate) x 33% is $67k. So if they were $120k under at the start of the year then they could fit them in
 

webbland

Juniors
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121
People need to keep their hatin' and not watchin' posts to the hatin' and not watchin' threads. The theme of this thread is entirely different in nature and is a discussion that can be had in a calm and detached manner really.

The OP posits a simple premise, that it pays to cheat. The premise is sound, the facts supprt it. For just a moment ignore the club colours and logos in play and consider the issues surrounding the exposed cheating.

A team wins a couple of Premmys and is later found to have cheated the cap quite substantially. There are tut-tuts but no consequences of any substance other than financial. The titles stand. Win.

Years later another team is found out prior to season's end and is stripped of points preventing them from contesting that year. However two years later, with substantially the same squad, they go on to win the title. An argument can be mounted that they were still benefitting from putting a team on the park that had been built by the cheating. Who cares? It's in the record books. Win.

Some further years later a third team is found out after scoring a couple of titles. This time the titles are stripped and measures put in place to punish them in the then current year. However two years later they are in the running for another shot. Again they still have a core group of players (indeed some considered the best in their positions, if not the wolrd, and in some cases argued the 'best of all time') that many consider are only still playing together beacuse of the initial cheating. They are a big chance to take it out. If so, win.

Meanwhile many other clubs have been bleeding talent to the above mentioned clubs, and others, because they have either adhered to the rules, or have been financially or administratively incapable of rorting the system. They haven't had the same measure of success as a consequence. Loss.

Conclusion, if you can afford it, it pays to try and rort the cap. You may get caught and retrospectively punished. However ultimately the punishments can not, currently, punish you sufficiently enough to damage your future chances if you can manage to retain the bulk, or critical core, of the playing group built up during the cheating. The benefits will come. In other words, win.

Under this current scenario any club not trying to rort the system is denying itself a chance. Some clubs can't afford the extra expenditures required though, so they are at a disadvantage.

I wish my club was wealthy enough to engage in the ploy, or that I was in a position to help enable it.

It pays to cheat.
nicely put
 

Spot On

Coach
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Good. The two best teams in the comp and deserving winners in their respective finals - it's the way it should be. Besides, I am fundamentally opposed to the salary cap. I think it's a restriction of trade and I don't think we should be protecting clubs from bad business practices, especially this far down the track from Super League. Why should we be punishing clubs for their success and hardwork?

There has to be a cap. That's a no-brainier. The NRL super sleuth Schubert just hasn't been clever enough or tough enough to enforce it a lot better. I don't think it will ever be perfect unless there is someway of severely punishing those who f**king rort it.

Without a cap we become an EPL type comp with the same top four every year. f**k that.
 
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Hate to report it but where I am there are a f**king huge amount of people who are saying they will watch the androtropball because they want the Thwannies to win but aren't too fussed about the league. And these are nominally league people, or at very worst general sport fans.
 

firechild

First Grade
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I know several people, my parents included that won't be watching the grand final because they can't fathom the idea of either club winning. I don't remember the same sort of indifference from the average league/sports fan for any other grand final, 2006-2008 included. People may hate Manly, Brisbane or the Roosters but the fact is the hatred of the cheating scum is different to the hatred of other clubs.
 

webbland

Juniors
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I know several people, my parents included that won't be watching the grand final because they can't fathom the idea of either club winning. I don't remember the same sort of indifference from the average league/sports fan for any other grand final, 2006-2008 included. People may hate Manly, Brisbane or the Roosters but the fact is the hatred of the cheating scum is different to the hatred of other clubs.
i hate the fact that i want melb to win!!detest melb. it's not like other years where gf day was like a birthday.tbh i don't know if i will watch all of the game
 

dogslife

Coach
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I know several people, my parents included that won't be watching the grand final because they can't fathom the idea of either club winning. I don't remember the same sort of indifference from the average league/sports fan for any other grand final, 2006-2008 included. People may hate Manly, Brisbane or the Roosters but the fact is the hatred of the cheating scum is different to the hatred of other clubs.
I guarantee not one person associated with the Bulldogs or Storm gives a shit what you and your several people do on Sunday
 

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