I hate Full Tilt

[Bumble]

And they're both full of muppets

There's a few idiots but some very good players as well

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Seriously, after being beaten with aces for about the 10th time this week, go and get well and truly f**ked full tilt.

 

[HevyDevy]

Have you tried playing fixed limit at all EA?

There's quite a bit of dead money to be made there if you play it smart.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Nah, I'm done with it, I'll play the cash I have left and piss off to stars.

Ferguson again today, aces cracked by J/7 unsuited.

 

[ledzep]

play cash games, not sngs/tournaments

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Same sh*t happens in ring games at tilt. It just absolutely staggers me the amount of times I've been outdrawn at tilt. It's pointless being patient and setting someone up when they'll outdraw you so bloody often with a much inferior hand. And I'm not tallking about strictly pre-flop either. I've been dudded a thousand times post flop. One common one is flopping a straight and getting beat by a drawn flush.

Like I said, I reckon tilt is bent towards big hands to clear the tables.

I've been working the stars micros and playing the same way has helped me get to nearly $40 from nothing.

I've also got 3 tickets for the astronomer 2nd rounds now, ran 5th out of 10,000 in one last night. The second rounds are on at sh*thouse times but I'll be playing one this weekend coming. I play one or two a week just so that I don't forget what it's like to play against 9,950 donkeys....

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

Same sh*t happens in ring games at tilt. It just absolutely staggers me the amount of times I've been outdrawn at tilt. It's pointless being patient and setting someone up when they'll outdraw you so bloody often with a much inferior hand. And I'm not tallking about strictly pre-flop either. I've been dudded a thousand times post flop. One common one is flopping a straight and getting beat by a drawn flush.

Like I said, I reckon tilt is bent towards big hands to clear the tables.

I've been working the stars micros and playing the same way has helped me get to nearly $40 from nothing.

I've also got 3 tickets for the astronomer 2nd rounds now, ran 5th out of 10,000 in one last night. The second rounds are on at sh*thouse times but I'll be playing one this weekend coming. I play one or two a week just so that I don't forget what it's like to play against 9,950 donkeys....

It's called variance and sometimes you are going to be on the wrong end of it unless you are Annette_15.

Except it or give up the game.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Annette 15 is the bitch I always lose to. If any of you sat through my last month at tilt, you'd simply agree with me.

It's so bad, I can actually predict with Negranu-like accuracy what card is going to hit the turn or the river.

 

[Ghoulies]

I play on Tilt, Stars and Absolute everyday but I haven't noticed a difference in how the hands play out.

 

[HevyDevy]

No, the only difference is that Tilt is on constant shuffle and Stars isn't.

Don't ask me the reason why Tilt is on constant shuffle but it is,

Either way, if you are playing consistently solid poker, making moves that are +EV and sticking your money in ahead more often than not then the variance that WYD refers to will come back in your favour in the long run.

Remember too EA that if you are a 51% favourite to win a hand then you should always get your chips into the middle in a cash game but probably not in a tournament or SnG (although in a SnG you should do so once you have reached the money).

But EA if you're playing freerolls the idiots will always get you eventually. Nobody plays good poker when there is no reason to care.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Not freerolls, mostly $1 sngs and tourneys. I play freerolls but you just have to wear the sh*t, they'll call with anything.

 

[Tigers_are_Pro]

I often play online lol, despite my age. I once went from finishing 8th in an FTP freeroll for 3 bucks and turning that into something like 45, but from there it went downhill and fast. AK with 2 pair against J10 with nothing, calls the gutshot and BAM there goes $20. Deeply frustrating. This happens at every site you go to though.

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Pokerdome at St. Marys is better than both APL and NPL imo, i've been around the parts... but yeah liek Bumble said... NPL is the lowest rung.

 

[Bumble]

Pokerdome at St. Marys is better than both APL and NPL imo, i've been around the parts... but yeah liek Bumble said... NPL is the lowest rung.

Actually, Ultimate Poker League which I've played a couple of times (because the venue is 2 mins walk from my house and there's not much to do on a Thursday) is even WORSE than NPL. I only play it if some of my mates come too, though.

 

[HevyDevy]

It's a vicious cycle - in order to improve you can't be playing NPL, APL etc. but to play against better players and improve your game you need to plant some cash down to be able to sit with them.

Of course, it can be very profitable to play against spastics but once the bankroll builds and you step up a few levels you've been playing those spastics for too long and aren't ready to take on the more accomplised players.

So it's certainly tough to get started if you don't have a lot of cash to begin with but I guess you've just got to grind it out really.

I used to play for some Pub Poker League a few years back at Crows Nest - complete rubbish! haha

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I'm still working on my starting from nothing at PokerStars, up to $40 now by playing micro SnG's and Tourneys (10c, 25c, 50c) with the odd 1/2 cent ring game. Sticking to that until I get to $100 then I'll play dollar tourneys.

The good thing about the 10 cent SnG's is that if you pull a 1 - 4 finish you pay for 40+ more tourneys.

Full tilt need to get micro SnG's, they're geniused but a good way to boost a small bankroll if you have the patience to get past the initial donkeys.

 

[Tommax25]

I play with I think it is ultimate poker challenge and whatve people have been saying aboutr not improving your game ect is right. I have learnt not to bluff ever, I have learnt not to bet or raise with middle or bottom pair, I have learnt not to raise pre-flop with a pocket pair below 10, and I have leanrt to not raise at all pre-flop with any other set of cars except ace-king, ace-queen or ace-jack. You cant do any of these things because regardless of the situation, as long as these spastics have an inside straight draw or 3 to a flush on the flop or bottom pair or ace high they will simly call. They don't care and they hit more often than not.

It frustrated me to the point where I got p*ssed off with the game and just went all-in everyhand one week and I was winning, sh*t like 49 off and I would hit two pair or something and they would be so annoyed that I win and I just think this is how I feel every damn time I play. I was disgusted that this ridiculous play of mine was being rewarded as I had 5 time my starting stack by the end of the first blinds and people were folding decent hands knwoing the raise was coming.

I hate it, and would really like to play a live game with some pros just to see how I compare if I play properly (ie: not the all-in every hand and not abiding by my criteira in the first paragraph)

 

[Ghoulies]

I play with I think it is ultimate poker challenge and whatve people have been saying aboutr not improving your game ect is right. I have learnt not to bluff ever, I have learnt not to bet or raise with middle or bottom pair, I have learnt not to raise pre-flop with a pocket pair below 10, and I have leanrt to not raise at all pre-flop with any other set of cars except ace-king, ace-queen or ace-jack. You cant do any of these things because regardless of the situation, as long as these spastics have an inside straight draw or 3 to a flush on the flop or bottom pair or ace high they will simly call. They don't care and they hit more often than not.

It frustrated me to the point where I got p*ssed off with the game and just went all-in everyhand one week and I was winning, sh*t like 49 off and I would hit two pair or something and they would be so annoyed that I win and I just think this is how I feel every damn time I play. I was disgusted that this ridiculous play of mine was being rewarded as I had 5 time my starting stack by the end of the first blinds and people were folding decent hands knwoing the raise was coming.

I hate it, and would really like to play a live game with some pros just to see how I compare if I play properly (ie: not the all-in every hand and not abiding by my criteira in the first paragraph)

I'll save you the suspense. You'd get crushed over any reasonable sample size. The higher you move up in stakes the more you're gonna wish that there were donkeys to call off their stack with 49o.

 

[Tommy Smith]

I'll save you the suspense. You'd get crushed over any reasonable sample size. The higher you move up in stakes the more you're gonna wish that there were donkeys to call off their stack with 49o.

Most probably.

The hardest thing about playing high stakes is sticking to your guns.

It's easy to make a call playing for a $100, same for $1000, but when you're in a tourny with upwards of $50k first prize and you're down to the last 100 or so, then calls and re-raises can become more difficult.

Thats what separates the best from the rest - not hesitating despite the stakes. It's also where you can pick off the weaker players who you know wont call with just about anything other than the nuts.

 

[Ghoulies]

Most probably.

The hardest thing about playing high stakes is sticking to your guns.

It's easy to make a call playing for a $100, same for $1000, but when you're in a tourny with upwards of $50k first prize and you're down to the last 100 or so, then calls and re-raises can become more difficult.

Thats what separates the best from the rest - not hesitating despite the stakes.

That's part of it, yes, but the skill advantage these players have over the rest of us is enormous. It's extremely difficult playing at a table where you're under constant pressure from players who are adept at exploiting leaks in your game, while having no obvious leaks of their own.