I smell Soward just around the corner....

[aussie7798]

Scott and Cooper are hands down the best defensive centres in the comp

what i cant understand is why NSW does not go back to the dummyhalf running they used a couple of years ago get Ennis Farah and gidley on at the same time scooting out of DH they looked like they where runnning them off their feet at the ends of the halves and then they never went back to it

 

[evil_p091280]

Oh, and how's their record in big games? Remind me please..

As for that other romanticized dribble :lol:

Matt Cooper never lets NSW down? Has played about 30000 origin games and doesn't score any tries. Weyman got passed around like currency during Origin 1 and Beau Scott? I think he's about as potent in attack as Luke Stuart or Tim Grant.

As hybrid_tiger said, no player can control Inglis when he's on his game. Another gutless, 'safe' selection by the NSW selectors. Beau Champion scored another 2 tries tonight but can't get a look in. I give up.

You are a goose mate.

Weyman played well in origin 1. Made good metres and bent the line on most runs. Check his stats if you don't believe me. Only outdone by petero.

As for coops, maybe not the best origin one. But has played in winning series, scored 3 tries from 11 games (maybe not the best strike rate but has 8 tries from 8 games for aus.) also playing great club footy this year.

As for Scott, his offloading creating second phase play will be priceless.

You should research more before making dumb comments.

 

[greeny12]

Give me a break - "Beau Champion scored 2 tries tonight!" ... did you not see the game?? Cowboys were hardly putting up much of a fight. Doesn't mean he's Origin bound.

 

[Bumble]

You are a goose mate.

Weyman played well in origin 1. Made good metres and bent the line on most runs. Check his stats if you don't believe me. Only outdone by petero.

Lies are fun. I don't mind Weyman, it's just funny because if he played for Souths or the Sharks or someone he wouldn't get a look-in.

As for coops, maybe not the best origin one. But has played in winning series, scored 3 tries from 11 games (maybe not the best strike rate but has 8 tries from 8 games for aus.) also playing great club footy this year.

Hah. 'maybe not the best'? Yes, he played well in our last series win...which was 5 years ago.

As for his club form, who gives a sh*t. If you want to pick players on their club form Beau Champion should be the first centre picked.

As for Scott, his offloading creating second phase play will be priceless.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

This is almost so delusional I'm tempted to put it in my signature.

You should research more before making dumb comments.

Nice patronizing comment to cap off this passage of dribble. Good job.

 

[Bumble]

Give me a break - "Beau Champion scored 2 tries tonight!" ... did you not see the game?? Cowboys were hardly putting up much of a fight. Doesn't mean he's Origin bound.

Sorry...what I should have said was:

Beau Champion scored 2 tries tonight. And 5 other times this season. And he's the leading tryscorer in the NRL. And his outside man is also into double digits for tries. And he's a solid defender.

My mistake.

 

[typicalfan]

Champion has had a great 13 weeks of Rugby League. I think he would struggle a lot v Inglis at origin. Beau Scott has been picked for defense, aggression and maybe as another forward to get out of trouble. Beau Scott would be my number 2 right centre after Lyon and Champion or Jennings would be 3rd.

Champion keeps his form up and NSW will be a formality but for now I am 100% happy with Scott and I hope he sends Inglis over the sideline every time he runs at him.

 

[Bumble]

Champion has had a great 13 weeks of Rugby League. I think he would struggle a lot v Inglis at origin. Beau Scott has been picked for defense, aggression and maybe as another forward to get out of trouble. Beau Scott would be my number 2 right centre after Lyon and Champion or Jennings would be 3rd.

Champion keeps his form up and NSW will be a formality but for now I am 100% happy with Scott and I hope he sends Inglis over the sideline every time he runs at him.

You say that like a Souths player will ever get picked...

John Sutton deserves it. Man of the match again tonight. Had like 23 Dally M points last year and more try assists both last year and this year than any other five-eighth that NSW could pick. He's also a far more damaging ball runner than Barrett, Soward etc.

 

[Spot On]

You are a goose mate.

Weyman played well in origin 1. Made good metres and bent the line on most runs. Check his stats if you don't believe me. Only outdone by petero.

As for coops, maybe not the best origin one. But has played in winning series, scored 3 tries from 11 games (maybe not the best strike rate but has 8 tries from 8 games for aus.) also playing great club footy this year.

As for Scott, his offloading creating second phase play will be priceless.

You should research more before making dumb comments.

Sorry, but I've got to agree with the goose. Weyman does his job but rarely bends the line. Matt Scott shat all over him in Origin one. As did Petero. Actually the entire QLD pack did. Weyman is apparently our number one prop which is why NSW haven't been able to match it with the QLD rotation. We lack quality props or we are choosing the wrong ones.

 

[typicalfan]

You say that like a Souths player will ever get picked...

John Sutton deserves it. Man of the match again tonight. Had like 23 Dally M points last year and more try assists both last year and this year than any other five-eighth that NSW could pick. He's also a far more damaging ball runner than Barrett, Soward etc.

IMO Barrett is a proven origin player and was one of the worst decisions to not play him in game 1. John Sutton has versatility on his side, he could easily come on and play a backrower/ballplayer role like a Luke Lewis or Greg Bird.

If the selectors see it that way I think Sutton should be on the cusp of selection obviously Lewis and Bird are good players, Bird missed out as well. A player like these on the bench helps us make up for having less creativity than the Maroons.

 

[Godz Illa]

haha Champion. Souths supporters are the best. hattrickrabbit with his Isaac Luke better than Smith and Sandow better than Thurston threads was just the tip of the iceberg

 

[Bumble]

Barrett's one of the few guys I'm ok with labeling an 'origin player'. Not too upset with him being there over Sutton.

The ultimate slap in the face was earlier this year - City Origin, first he's passed over for Braith Anasta and then when he gets injured, surely Sutton comes in? Nah, Kris Keating gets a run. :lol:

 

[Direct]

He also got injured within minutes of the City v Country game last year, so we didn't really get to see how he would have went in a rep side. In fact, Jamie Soward played more minutes when he was brought on with 5 minutes when it was far too late for him to do anything to prevent the City side's victory.

The selectors aren't interested in Soward. Beau Scott is simply being picked because NSW have an obsession with defence, as well as Dragons, Knights and Manly players.

 

[greeny12]

Sorry...what I should have said was:

Beau Champion scored 2 tries tonight. And 5 other times this season. And he's the leading tryscorer in the NRL. And his outside man is also into double digits for tries. And he's a solid defender.

My mistake.

Each to their own... don't think he's better than Cooper or Scott.

I'm willing to eat my words and suffer the consequences when Souths vs Dragons this year and we'll see how much Champion dominates.

 

[Bumble]

haha Champion. Souths supporters are the best. hattrickrabbit with his Isaac Luke better than Smith and Sandow better than Thurston threads was just the tip of the iceberg

Those two threads were both very silly and filled with hyperbole. I wasn't being dramatic, or making outrageous claims like he's the best centre in the world...I made a pretty clear argument with facts. Instead of just saying "Souths supporters are the best" like a smug d*ckhead maybe actually read what people post?

So genius, would you like to explain why the guy with the most tries in the NRL, who can also defend and pass cannot get a look-in to the origin team when the likes of Scott and Idris are walk ups?

 

[Direct]

Sorry, but I've got to agree with the goose. Weyman does his job but rarely bends the line. Matt Scott shat all over him in Origin one. As did Petero. Actually the entire QLD pack did. Weyman is apparently our number one prop which is why NSW haven't been able to match it with the QLD rotation. We lack quality props or we are choosing the wrong ones.

I don't know how many times I've heard people name Kade Snowden, Luke Douglas, Tim Mannah, Aiden Tolman. Keith Galloway will be fit for Game 3 and then there blokes like Tim Grant coming through. NSW doesn't lack for good quality props. It lacks for selectors willing to choose the blokes who can do the job.

 

[Nevan_]

Has nothing to do with Jamie Soward at all. Beau Scott is versatile and very strong, much stronger than Lawrence maybe about as strong as Inglis?

Beau Scott is the strongest player at the Dragons. Followed by Jeremy Smith.

I'd say Scott is stronger than Inglis.

 

[Bumble]

Each to their own... don't think he's better than Cooper or Scott.

I'm willing to eat my words and suffer the consequences when Souths vs Dragons this year and we'll see how much Champion dominates.

It's not really a question of which one is better in this case - Cooper and Scott are both defensive centres (very good ones, don't get me wrong) but the idea that Scott or anyone, for that matter can contain the likes of Inglis is laughable.

This idea that NSW need to pick a defensive side is a joke. QLD are going to score points no matter who we pick - we need an predominantly attacking team that has some defensive players in it...not the other way around.

As for Dragons v Souths later this year, will be the game of the season IMO. That Dragons left side v Rabbitohs right side match-up is ridiculous. Creagh, Cooper and Morris against Burgess, Champion and Merritt. Awesome.

 

[evil_p091280]

Those two threads were both very silly and filled with hyperbole. I wasn't being dramatic, or making outrageous claims like he's the best centre in the world...I made a pretty clear argument with facts. Instead of just saying "Souths supporters are the best" like a smug d*ckhead maybe actually read what people post?

So genius, would you like to explain why the guy with the most tries in the NRL, who can also defend and pass cannot get a look-in to the origin team when the likes of Scott and Idris are walk ups?

Scott has played well for a year and a half, plus his team was mp last year and leading this year. I have no issue with him being picked in front of Champion, a guy with 12 weeks of form.

I will however agree with you on sutton, I thought he deserved a shot. Him and soward easily nsw 2 best five eights (very diff playing styles) yet can't rate a mention. Is BS.

 

[Boganater]

haha Champion. Souths supporters are the best. hattrickrabbit with his Isaac Luke better than Smith and Sandow better than Thurston threads was just the tip of the iceberg

There's nothing to laugh at mate, Champion has been carving up this season, he is great in attack and solid in defence he's big,strong and fast, he is also a specialist right centre.

Beau Scott is good defender but scores about a quarter of the tries, he has no footwork and the tries that the Dragons right winger Nightingale has scored this season have either been from cutout passes or when young Kyle Stanley was in for Scott. BTW I don't go for Souths.

 

[aussie7798]

You say that like a Souths player will ever get picked...

John Sutton deserves it. Man of the match again tonight. Had like 23 Dally M points last year and more try assists both last year and this year than any other five-eighth that NSW could pick. He's also a far more damaging ball runner than Barrett, Soward etc.

Soward and sutton both had the same number of try assists last year
soward scored 12 tries to 5
soward had 16 linebreaks to 8
soward had 77 tackle breaks to 56
Sowards kicking game is far superior to sutton

sutton had double sowards offloads
sutton made double the tackles for the same number of misses

these are facts and saying this i dont think sowards form this year to date has warranted a SOO call up