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Ron Jeremy

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I had to laugh at the website title


http://www.enotes.com/contemporary-musicians/van-halen-biography


Other musicians were even more emphatic about Eddie Van Halen's gifts: "That incredible virtuosity combined with that beautiful grin allows me to forgive him for letting David Lee Roth stand in front of him," Pete Townshend, leader of the famed British rock band The Who, remarked in Rolling Stone; groundbreaking guitarist-composer Frank Zappa thanked Eddie "for reinventing the guitar"; in Musician, Andy Summers of the pop/new wave trio the Police called him "a natural virtuoso," adding, "What impresses me is his passion, his spirit and his musicality. Really, I think he is the greatest rock guitarist since Hendrix." For all the comparisons to Hendrix, Eddie revealed in Musician that his guitar hero was actually England's Eric Clapton, guitarist for the Yardbirds, Cream, Derek and the Dominoes, and later, an accomplished solo artist. In the early days, Eddie would play Cream records at a slow speed to learn every single note of every solo.

Now cheese, i know that you'd be particulary interested by Andy Summers comments ;)
 

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cheese said:
It's a pizz take at ol' mate millers, dopey.

lol



You've got me there, eddie. Your superior knowledge has really got me f*cked

lol your music heros are one dimensional



How many people has Billy Joel influenced ...How many has Oscar Peterson influenced?

Dopey merkin.

lol at billy joel:lol: you tell me actually i'll be very surprised....

Nice insult anus



the wanka could use his 'sweat bands' ....they no doubt make him play fast ..because "faster pace = better guitarists"

No, it is a skill but as you have NFI on guitarist i'm not surprised that you generalize like this beauty. Better guitarists are ones who can play any style, and speed and be able to incorperate more then just a couple of techniques. Better guitarists are guitarists who have influenced millions, not just some kids down the street and are unique know matter what style they use.

Now tell me, what makes Jazz so hard to play? i didn't have any problems learning it? nor did i with Blues? i did however with other styles including country.

And again, tell me the hardest part of 'always with me always with you', interested to hear?
 

cheese

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Ron Jeremy said:
Really, I think he is the greatest rock guitarist since Hendrix.

And there it is ronny.

Rock musicians will always be looked upon as little leaguers in comparison to their jazz counterparts. The cream rises to the top, and the top is jazz.

Deal with it ....I know it's hard to accept, but just cop it on the chin like a few of your leather panted friends no doubt have.
 

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Ron Jeremy said:
lol your music heros are one dimensional
the irony

lol at billy joel:lol: you tell me actually i'll be very surprised....
It's alright ...i didn't expect a musical lightweight like yourself to know who oscar peterson is or what I was getting at.

Both billy and oscar are piano players.

One is a top 40 mediocrity ....The other is one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century

Hence ...the one that is widely known is no doubt going to have more influence over the pre-teens picking up the instrument for the first time.


Nice insult anus
xxoo



No, it is a skill but as you have NFI on guitarist i'm not surprised that you generalize like this beauty. Better guitarists are ones who can play any style, and speed and be able to incorperate more then just a couple of techniques. Better guitarists are guitarists who have influenced millions, not just some kids down the street and are unique know matter what style they use.
lol lightweight .....Vai and EVH are the epitome of one dimensional. More dripping irony.

Now tell me, what makes Jazz so hard to play? i didn't have any problems learning it? nor did i with Blues? i did however with other styles including country.
lol ..the funny thing is ...you actually believe that dribble.

And again, tell me the hardest part of 'always with me always with you', interested to hear?
there is one!? your sarcasm meter bust be f*cked

Hair guitar is a HSC kids wet dream.
Mike Stern and his peers are a HSC kids nightmare
 

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cheese said:
And there it is ronny.

Rock musicians will always be looked upon as little leaguers in comparison to their jazz counterparts. The cream rises to the top, and the top is jazz.

Deal with it ....I know it's hard to accept, but just cop it on the chin like a few of your leather panted friends no doubt have.

lol nice one

Is that why EVH has sold more music books then anyone else?

Why aren't Jazz guitarists recruited then if they are that good? i'm sure they could lower there standards to play arena's and make a sh*tload more money.
 

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Ron Jeremy said:
lol nice one

Is that why EVH has sold more music books then anyone else?

to 12 year olds

Why aren't Jazz guitarists recruited then if they are that good? i'm sure they could lower there standards to play arena's and make a sh*tload more money.

Recruited for what?!

and artists true to their art rarely make millions. The art always comes first.

Evh is the britney spears of guitaring
 

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cheese said:
the irony


It's alright ...i didn't expect a musical lightweight like yourself to know who oscar peterson is or what I was getting at.

Both billy and oscar are piano players.


I'm not a piano player, and this is about the guitar, i could rattle off names of other musicians who you wouldn't have heard off?

lol at Billy joel

One is a top 40 mediocrity ....The other is one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century

Who by? who has he influenced? didn't answer my question before yet again!

One is also considered one of the two most influential guitarists of all time:lol: and his guitar playing changed the way it's played today, deal with it! Frank Zappa did:lol:


Hence ...the one that is widely known is no doubt going to have more influence over the pre-teens picking up the instrument for the first time.

Funny those guitarists are still playing the same styles, and that partiuclar style is still very popular and influencing millions.






lol lightweight .....Vai and EVH are the epitome of one dimensional. More dripping irony.

How are they one dimensional? they had more variety in there guitar then anyother genre.

Frank Zappa didn't :lol: funny how you side stepped that post

lol ..the funny thing is ...you actually believe that dribble.

Yep, and so does millions of others including Townsend, Summers and Frank Zappa:lol:

there is one!? your sarcasm meter bust be f*cked

You can't play anything from Satch, right? you wouldn't be able too

Hair guitar is a HSC kids wet dream.

LOL so much classier listening to Billy Joel hahaha

Mike Stern and his peers are a HSC kids nightmare

Yep, most HSC kids see it as a step down, lack variety and hardly a challenge, i went through the same stage in High school.
 

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cheese said:
to 12 year olds



Recruited for what?!

and artists true to their art rarely make millions. The art always comes first.

Evh is the britney spears of guitaring

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA where do you think up this sh*t?:lol: lol they are simple musicians who struggle to find gigs:lol:


What was Hendrix then? his guitar playing is overshadowed by his on stage antics and playing style

You don't even play the guitar dude, your full of sh*t:lol: you wouldn't even dare try and play eruption would you.

Billy joel:lol:
 

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cheese said:
Another musicians, musician. Pat Metheney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApI-zA6suXE&feature=related

Guitar solo starts around 2:00

fuggin phenomenol. Kirk Hammett would be embarrassed to be rated ahead of a guy like Metheney


Some more Metheney insanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZDrfjBHgA&feature=related

The shyt he busts into at around 2:00 to 3;30 would make vai cry. No distortion pedals or hammer ons needed for this cat

woeful :lol: :lol: i can already play it:lol:
 

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The ironic thing about all of this Cheese is that Metheney is doing exactly what Eddie does, hammer-ons and quick picking lol but Eddie's is far harder to play.
 

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Man that sh*t is easy, i can appreciate it though cause i love lead guitar, but Eddie and Vai blow him of the planet
 

cheese

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Ron Jeremy said:
Who by? who has he influenced? didn't answer my question before yet again!
Who ...Peterson or blokes like Stern?

You can't be fuggin serious? ...every aspiring jazz musician(you know, the muzo's that can actually play) is influenced by these guys

One is also considered one of the two most influential guitarists of all time:lol: and his guitar playing changed the way it's played today, deal with it! Frank Zappa did:lol:
Changed the way guitar is played today? ...his 'sound' barely lasted a decade. It's done and dusted. Looks like hindsight shows the wise ol' zappa was off the mark.


Funny those guitarists are still playing the same styles, and that partiuclar style is still very popular and influencing millions.
Popular with who? Influecing who? Ron Jeremy from league unlimited? ....it sure as f**k isn't influencing any of sydneys top young players. You know, the guys who actually make a living playing guitar.




How are they one dimensional? they had more variety in there guitar then anyother genre.
Yeah man ..distortion + whammy + hammer on + one chord vamp = variety plus

Frank Zappa didn't :lol: funny how you side stepped that post
Zappa was avant garde .....Zappa was a fuggin great player. Steve Vai and EVH are also great technicians and players. Zappa owned them both though in terms of all round musicianship.

Zappa attracted better musicians to his projects. Says it all really.



Yep, and so does millions of others including Townsend, Summers and Frank Zappa:lol:
Of which defined him as a rock guitarist. A lightweight genre in the musical heirachy


LOL so much classier listening to Billy Joel hahaha
You really are dopey aren't you ronny. It hasn't sunk in yet has it


Yep, most HSC kids see it as a step down, lack variety and hardly a challenge, i went through the same stage in High school.
Sure you did ronny. You'd never even heard of players mentioned in this thread.
 

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Ron Jeremy said:
The ironic thing about all of this Cheese is that Metheney is doing exactly what Eddie does, hammer-ons and quick picking lol but Eddie's is far harder to play.

Metheney's right hand is actually moving. Eddie just clicks on his effects rack and lets his left hand do all the work

Metheney's musicality embarrasses Eddie every day of the work .....

I wonder what's harder to improvise over??! ....A triadic piece of shyt van halen song, or a swung jazz standard like All The Things You Are.

no need to answer ronnie ....real muzo's know the answer
 

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Ron Jeremy said:
Now compare that to this, easy to see which piece is more technical and requires much more skill and precision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZnnhoFg_Y

now watch this dude hahahahaha

watched it yet?:lol:

you can try and spin it anyway you want cheese, but this blows everything you've ever learnt and played of the planet.

I'll get the 'it's easy' and 'for HSC studemts' but we all know one is considered the most influential guitarist of all time
 

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Ron Jeremy said:
woeful :lol: :lol: i can already play it:lol:


yes ...i'm sure can ronny.

I mean ....considering there is no transcription for it, and the footage is from a rare concert. It makes perfect sense.

I guess you just picked it up by ear in the last 7 minutes?!
 

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cheese said:
Metheney's right hand is actually moving. Eddie just clicks on his effects rack and lets his left hand do all the work

Metheney's musicality embarrasses Eddie every day of the work .....

I wonder what's harder to improvise over??! ....A triadic piece of shyt van halen song, or a swung jazz standard like All The Things You Are.

no need to answer ronnie ....real muzo's know the answer

OMG:lol: You find it easier to improvise basic lead with very fast complex lead lol you couldn't even play at that speed to start with:lol:

How many has Metheney influenced in comparison to Eddie? lol other people can make the distinction, you it seems can't...
 

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cheese said:
yes ...i'm sure can ronny.

I mean ....considering there is no transcription for it, and the footage is from a rare concert. It makes perfect sense.

I guess you just picked it up by ear in the last 7 minutes?!

It's hardly rocket science compared to Vai, Malmstein, VH etc pieces i know.

Keep telling yourself how complex it is though, the fact of the matter it isn't!:lol:
 

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