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If Flanno gets sacked

Are you happy or sad to see Flanno sacked

  • Happy

    Votes: 45 58.4%
  • Sad

    Votes: 32 41.6%

  • Total voters
    77

taipan

Referee
Messages
22,500
Flanno might employ Scummo after May nek year.

Scummo = dead man walking.

If the embarrassing imbecile motor mouth does the honourable thang and resigns after getting flogged in the next erection then both will be out of a job.

Regardless of him getting walloped nationally, he'd still win his seat .

One thing I can't stand is either party have a landslide win,
meaning the opposition is ineffective and the Govt in power puts any crap through they wish,as they no doubt will control the senate via independents.

Both party's leaders in some way, have knifed a sitting PM ,to get into power.The sucking up now is plainly embarrassing.All is forgiven LOL.
 

Quigs

Immortal
Messages
34,874
Don't worry too munch Taip, when the baseball bat weilding tsunami hits the Tories nek year I'll pull a few strings to help you get through.

Why even the local member up here calls me Quigs or is that a quigs.
 

ouryears

Bench
Messages
3,195
This relocation talk has....if I was Manly, stain George or Tigers fan I'd be worried. All those teams are on life support.
Read my lips
The only club being considered to shunt 4 hrs flying time West from this great city of ours
Is you, the new rorters of the league
And if that doesn’t bring cultural change to your club
It’s goodnight shonkies
Either way......We will be back grazing on our rightful land once again
The mighty Saint George Dragons
 

Tiger Shark

Bench
Messages
3,154
Read my lips
The only club being considered to shunt 4 hrs flying time West from this great city of ours
Is you, the new rorters of the league
And if that doesn’t bring cultural change to your club
It’s goodnight shonkies
Either way......We will be back grazing on our rightful land once again
The mighty Saint George Dragons

You forgot Illawarra.. remember you merkins merged ages ago because you were too weak to stand alone.
 

Griffoshark66

First Grade
Messages
6,273
Read my lips
The only club being considered to shunt 4 hrs flying time West from this great city of ours
Is you, the new rorters of the league
And if that doesn’t bring cultural change to your club
It’s goodnight shonkies
Either way......We will be back grazing on our rightful land once again
The mighty Saint George Dragons
Never heard of the f**kers.
 

Foz

Bench
Messages
4,124
If Flanno fights this I assume he would face the NRL first.
Again assume he’d be getting legal advice.

I’ve got no idea so thought I’d ask the question.
Is there any possibility (if he was still facing the axe after fronting the NRL)that he could argue a legal point on how the evidence was obtained or any other legal points.

I suppose it’s only me thinking it’s the reason Flanno hasn’t been sacked yet and we’ve learnt from past mistakes with Terminating contracts.
Any legal geniuses out there?
 

shaggs

Coach
Messages
11,152
The sharks won’t sack him. There is no need.
If the nrl de-register and his appeal fails then that’s that.

If he can’t do his job then the sharks don’t pay him. They save in the payout and termination etc. the nrl are doing it for the sharks.
 

Foz

Bench
Messages
4,124
The sharks won’t sack him. There is no need.
If the nrl de-register and his appeal fails then that’s that.

If he can’t do his job then the sharks don’t pay him. They save in the payout and termination etc. the nrl are doing it for the sharks.

That’s good news.
So that’s the reason he won’t be sacked by us.

So any future legalities (if tFlanno was to proceed)would be between the NRL and Flanno if he went along that path?


I
 

taipan

Referee
Messages
22,500
Don't worry too munch Taip, when the baseball bat weilding tsunami hits the Tories nek year I'll pull a few strings to help you get through.

Why even the local member up here calls me Quigs or is that a quigs.

You got a full fridge their Comrade Quigs? Mud crabs, calamari and rock oysters my specialty.Washed down with Crown Lager.

All this standard fare for me will be gone, if Shortnin Bread and Mother Russia take over,I'll be living on the streets playing Up Up Cronulla ,on a violin outside Town Hall station.
 

Quigs

Immortal
Messages
34,874
You got a full fridge their Comrade Quigs? Mud crabs, calamari and rock oysters my specialty.Washed down with Crown Lager.

All this standard fare for me will be gone, if Shortnin Bread and Mother Russia take over,I'll be living on the streets playing Up Up Cronulla ,on a violin outside Town Hall station.

Always thought that you like the fiddle.
 

carcharias

Immortal
Messages
43,120
8 years

How many coaches last that long these days?

Go to the UK Flano
Win one there.


Thanks for the premiership
Greatest feeling ever...immediately after the worst feeling ever. ( I thought we were gone)

Yeah you got caught.
I still think it pales in comparison to Bellamy and the 4 years of cheating.
 

Generalzod

Immortal
Messages
34,013
8 years

How many coaches last that long these days?

Go to the UK Flano
Win one there.


Thanks for the premiership
Greatest feeling ever...immediately after the worst feeling ever. ( I thought we were gone)

Yeah you got caught.
I still think it pales in comparison to Bellamy and the 4 years of cheating.
Well said Carch you sHould post this on the NRL forum..
 

Feej

First Grade
Messages
7,524
Flanagan and ‘his’ board ran their own show despite ban
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/fl...eir-own-show-despite-ban-20181221-p50nml.html

Six years ago, during a festive function at Doltone House in Sydney’s CBD, Cronulla directors expressed their alarm to the NRL about the conduct of coach Shane Flanagan.

The Sharks’ then chairman, Damian Irvine, advised then ARL Commission chairman John Grant of the difficulty the club directors had in controlling Flanagan and the football department.

A simmering “us versus them” situation had arisen. The root cause of the tension was money. The club owed its bank $13 million and was forced to obey strict covenants on spending. The Sharks’ head of football, Darren Mooney, was expected to perform the duties of chief executive and was very close to Flanagan. When money is tight and jobs aren’t filled, a coach with a strong work ethic can over-reach his responsibilities.

However, the Cronulla board, beholden to Flanagan for its own election and impressed by his considerable talent as a coach, reappointed him, early in 2014, for the 2015 season. At the same time, the Sharks approached the NRL to vary the terms of Flanagan’s suspension to allow him to be involved in recruitment and retention, given he would be coaching the side in 2015. The NRL said no.

The terms of the suspension could not have been more clear. Flanagan was not allowed to be involved directly or indirectly with the club. He knew it. His agent knew it. The club knew it.

The club ignored that ruling because it was harmful to the club’s 2015 preparation and the Sharks worked with Flanagan in direct defiance of the NRL ban.

If there is one act that creates fury with the NRL’s taciturn chief operating officer Nick Weeks, it is a club seeking to deceive him or flout his rulings.

The evidence obtained by the NRL identifies that Flanagan was deeply involved in the club during the period from December 2013 to October 2014 – the entire period of his suspension. The evidence suggests that he continued to do almost everything other than sit in the coach’s box. He was involved in player recruitment and retention even though he knew this to be prohibited. He was involved in overseeing player medical treatment and conditioning – not on the training paddock but remotely. He was involved in staffing decisions and even signed off on press releases.

Consequently, on Wednesday, Flanagan had his NRL accreditation cancelled and the club was fined $800,000.

The NRL insists its parallel investigation into Cronulla salary-cap breaches is a separate matter.
There are matters of substance that need to be resolved and, in the same way the NRL took its time to probe Parramatta and Manly, the integrity unit is working methodically to understand exactly what has happened at the club in terms of the management of its salary cap.

The smart play from club officials and agents in circumstances where they have been caught with a smoking gun is to hand in their registration and leave the game. This effectively puts them outside the jurisdiction of the NRL and beyond its sanctioning powers.

Many fans argue Flanagan, who has until January 31 to appeal his deregistration, has been punished too severely for just failing to comply with a suspension.

However, the context of Flanagan’s 2014 suspension should not be lost on fans. He was suspended because of his involvement in an episode that resulted in incalculable harm to the image of the game. This was no everyday ruling. It was a penalty that was designed to hold people accountable for one of the most damaging periods of the game’s recent history.

The Sharks knew Flanagan was defying the NRL ban and did not care. In fact, the club actively facilitated the continuing contact. Four of the “Flanno board” have recently resigned and the club is expected to post a loss of $4 million.

Fifteen years ago, former Sharks coach John Lang told me, “People joke about Cronulla not winning a premiership, but it’s a victory for them every year, just to survive.”

Flanagan delivered the club its first premiership in 2016 but he, along with a compliant board, has now made it difficult for the club to exist.

Current chief executive Barry Russell has defiantly declared the Sharks have the will to survive but that’s a message you usually hear from rich clubs who say spirit is everything in football.

Poor clubs should know that it is money.
 
Messages
4,213
Flanagan and ‘his’ board ran their own show despite ban
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/fl...eir-own-show-despite-ban-20181221-p50nml.html

Six years ago, during a festive function at Doltone House in Sydney’s CBD, Cronulla directors expressed their alarm to the NRL about the conduct of coach Shane Flanagan.

The Sharks’ then chairman, Damian Irvine, advised then ARL Commission chairman John Grant of the difficulty the club directors had in controlling Flanagan and the football department.

A simmering “us versus them” situation had arisen. The root cause of the tension was money. The club owed its bank $13 million and was forced to obey strict covenants on spending. The Sharks’ head of football, Darren Mooney, was expected to perform the duties of chief executive and was very close to Flanagan. When money is tight and jobs aren’t filled, a coach with a strong work ethic can over-reach his responsibilities.

However, the Cronulla board, beholden to Flanagan for its own election and impressed by his considerable talent as a coach, reappointed him, early in 2014, for the 2015 season. At the same time, the Sharks approached the NRL to vary the terms of Flanagan’s suspension to allow him to be involved in recruitment and retention, given he would be coaching the side in 2015. The NRL said no.

The terms of the suspension could not have been more clear. Flanagan was not allowed to be involved directly or indirectly with the club. He knew it. His agent knew it. The club knew it.

The club ignored that ruling because it was harmful to the club’s 2015 preparation and the Sharks worked with Flanagan in direct defiance of the NRL ban.

If there is one act that creates fury with the NRL’s taciturn chief operating officer Nick Weeks, it is a club seeking to deceive him or flout his rulings.

The evidence obtained by the NRL identifies that Flanagan was deeply involved in the club during the period from December 2013 to October 2014 – the entire period of his suspension. The evidence suggests that he continued to do almost everything other than sit in the coach’s box. He was involved in player recruitment and retention even though he knew this to be prohibited. He was involved in overseeing player medical treatment and conditioning – not on the training paddock but remotely. He was involved in staffing decisions and even signed off on press releases.

Consequently, on Wednesday, Flanagan had his NRL accreditation cancelled and the club was fined $800,000.

The NRL insists its parallel investigation into Cronulla salary-cap breaches is a separate matter.
There are matters of substance that need to be resolved and, in the same way the NRL took its time to probe Parramatta and Manly, the integrity unit is working methodically to understand exactly what has happened at the club in terms of the management of its salary cap.

The smart play from club officials and agents in circumstances where they have been caught with a smoking gun is to hand in their registration and leave the game. This effectively puts them outside the jurisdiction of the NRL and beyond its sanctioning powers.

Many fans argue Flanagan, who has until January 31 to appeal his deregistration, has been punished too severely for just failing to comply with a suspension.

However, the context of Flanagan’s 2014 suspension should not be lost on fans. He was suspended because of his involvement in an episode that resulted in incalculable harm to the image of the game. This was no everyday ruling. It was a penalty that was designed to hold people accountable for one of the most damaging periods of the game’s recent history.

The Sharks knew Flanagan was defying the NRL ban and did not care. In fact, the club actively facilitated the continuing contact. Four of the “Flanno board” have recently resigned and the club is expected to post a loss of $4 million.

Fifteen years ago, former Sharks coach John Lang told me, “People joke about Cronulla not winning a premiership, but it’s a victory for them every year, just to survive.”

Flanagan delivered the club its first premiership in 2016 but he, along with a compliant board, has now made it difficult for the club to exist.

Current chief executive Barry Russell has defiantly declared the Sharks have the will to survive but that’s a message you usually hear from rich clubs who say spirit is everything in football.

Poor clubs should know that it is money.

As if the NRL was only concerned with damage to the games image. .Dank was a snake oil salesman that fooled a lot of people in several clubs and NRL selectively decided the Sharks should pay for his 10 weeks there or whatever it was . Only one I feel sorry for is the cronulla Doctor who should have had the FINAL say in such things as well as concussions etc.

Putting Clubs financial woes onto Flanno indicates he is just a scapegoat for Everything. He was appointed to win a premiership . He delivered . Some of the holier than thow , people on here must think the mouse in the Gruffalo Movie was the Evil Villain. Fancy telling all those lies ,depriving poor fox outa his dinner all just so he could get to that big nut on the hill.
 

PJ

First Grade
Messages
6,063
If there is one act that creates fury with the NRL’s taciturn chief operating officer Nick Weeks, it is a club seeking to deceive him or flout his rulings.

You mean like running dual contracts that only come to light through a disgruntled employee?

Or rorting the salary cap and quitting so you can't be interviewed, yet I don't believe they bothered digging into servers for that.
 

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