If Flanno gets sacked

[Feej]

As if the NRL was only concerned with damage to the games image. .Dank was a snake oil salesman that fooled a lot of people in several clubs and NRL selectively decided the Sharks should pay for his 10 weeks there or whatever it was . Only one I feel sorry for is the cronulla Doctor who should have had the FINAL say in such things as well as concussions etc.

Putting Clubs financial woes onto Flanno indicates he is just a scapegoat for Everything. He was appointed to win a premiership . He delivered . Some of the holier than thow , people on here must think the mouse in the Gruffalo Movie was the Evil Villain. Fancy telling all those lies ,depriving poor fox outa his dinner all just so he could get to that big nut on the hill.

I don't think this story makes him the scapegoat. It clearly describes how complicit the 'unity' board were in the whole shitstorm as well. Not many of them left to question either.

The Sharks are like the 75 year old spinster that continues to send money to help some poor person in Nigeria.

 

[Quicksilver]

I don't think this story makes him the scapegoat. It clearly describes how complicit the 'unity' board were in the whole shitstorm as well. Not many of them left to question either.

The Sharks are like the 75 year old spinster that continues to send money to help some poor person in Nigeria.

The story makes it sound like it was Irvine’s board and not Unity.

There is no mention of them at all. Jeez they’re getting off lightly in all this.

 

[taipan]

Always thought that you like the fiddle.

Still do, at my age it all helps.

 

[to_ddeath]

You forgot Illawarra.. remember you merkins merged ages ago because you were too weak to stand alone.

Never a huge fan of the JV but having that regional half may well save our fossil board for longer than they deserve....
As for you lot..guess it's hooroo then......

 

[taipan]

The question is would we be debating the issue if Danks hadn't poked his head in the door, at the invite by "someone".
He should have been p*ssed off the day he put his smug dial through the door, suggesting he could make every footballer super.

Thus no huge fine and no suspended fine ,no bad publicity and no need for Flanno and certain board members to communicate with each other.
All we'd have to worry about is a salary cap issue ,which is almost par for the course these days.

Instead the whole costly debacle has been like a long running costly episode of Days of our Lives.

The blame has to lie with:
Whoever invited Danks to the party.
Flanno for not understanding the implications of having a cowboy like him ,on board.
The board members who thought communicating with Flanno after being forbidden to do so was all in order.All virtually telling the NRL honchos ,we'll do it our way.
And the CEOs ATT.

And we now get this.`

Russell (and it pains me to say this)did what any responsible CEO should do, ensure the financials were in line with the NRL's requirements.To ignore such would be as bad ,as being involved initially.Cover ups are not on.

 

[BatteredFlake]

I don't think this story makes him the scapegoat. It clearly describes how complicit the 'unity' board were in the whole shitstorm as well. Not many of them left to question either.

The Sharks are like the 75 year old spinster that continues to send money to help some poor person in Nigeria.

It does say "his Board" and makes out he had this power to control spending. I had thought highly of Irvine ,still think his heart was in right place but "complaining to NRL about controlling Flanagan? What the f**k do these guys think "their job " is?

Anyway after ASADA wasn't it Cullen appointed ? Highly experienced Businessman... surely NRL would not have let him leave without ok-ing his successor in Noyce ?

I was well into my 4os before I began to understand just how politicians , business leaders etc exercise power and "make things happen". My best friend from school got a Business degree and was chief Financial officer at a local Govt His boss"the Mayor " was a future Senator who became known as a power broker , numbers man, mr Fixit etc . for the incumbant federal govt . My friend said he had known the guy a little socially for a while as both were family men etc . Said he had opened up a bit once about some of the machinations and tricks he had pulled to get troublesome people moved on sacked , pressured to quit , agree to things etc . When my friend expressed shock at some of his methods he clammed up . Since then I see something like this and people like Beattie and Greenburg involved and I would never go around jumping to conclusions and condemning someone like Flanno.

 

[YTSharks]

I’ve come to think did we self report knowing redundancies were on the cards so to stop any whistleblowers

 

[PJ]

The blame has to lie with:
Whoever invited Danks to the party.
Flanno for not understanding the implications of having a cowboy like him ,on board.

Taipan that is where my whole issue with Flanno comes from.

He was told, explicitly, by someone whose opinion was relevant and whose opinion absolutely should have been listened to that Dank should not be employed or listened to.

The response with no consideration was "F^&k off".

Flanno, imo, got off lightly.

 

[carcharias]

One positive test would’ve been nice

We probably didn’t take anything illegal.
Dank probably bullshitted about what it was

 

[Stake Removed]

Ok it looked like Flanno & the board may have cheated, but guess what each team that wins the comp does basically the same thing Flanno & our board did, the difference is they are smarter, they are in some examples clubs the NRL wont go near, they all do it except they dont leave a trail.

They have had years of getting this perfect for us, it looks like we started 6 years ago, those teams perfected it.

Look at Parra another like us paper trail everywhere, Manly as well, now for them 20 years they would have been a team the NRL turned a blind eye to, but now not as important.

We all remember the Andrew Gee incident and what happened nothing because the NRL how dare they possibly upset the broncs

 

[txta2]

You mean like running dual contracts that only come to light through a disgruntled employee?

Or rorting the salary cap and quitting so you can't be interviewed, yet I don't believe they bothered digging into servers for that.

Bang on, the carrnt had a bone to pick with the Sharks, along comes Barry with the keys to the safe and bingo there's the reason the coach is gone

 

[txta2]

Ok it looked like Flanno & the board may have cheated, but guess what each team that wins the comp does basically the same thing Flanno & our board did, the difference is they are smarter, they are in some examples clubs the NRL wont go near, they all do it except they dont leave a trail.

They have had years of getting this perfect for us, it looks like we started 6 years ago, those teams perfected it.

Look at Parra another like us paper trail everywhere, Manly as well, now for them 20 years they would have been a team the NRL turned a blind eye to, but now not as important.

We all remember the Andrew Gee incident and what happened nothing because the NRL how dare they possibly upset the broncs

Problem is Parra are in the same boat as us ,,,unlike the Broncos who are a publically listed ..That's why Gee fled quick smart because the law and sections of the govt were closing in. And It's why the NRL has us by the balls

 

[Stake Removed]

I think the NRL are playing the long game here, basically only a handful of clubs can get away with what they want, due to size and geographic situations.

So we are now low hanging fruit, they want teams in all cities if they can, not enough quality players to go 18-20 teams, but by making life harder and harder for some, they get pushed out and moved on, i belive we are no 1 on the list then tigers at 2, and eagles at 3, we all get moved to Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, the league makes it first round of culls, i dont even believe the Dogs are safe.

The NRL would be happy with in sydney Roosters, Dragons, Rabbitohs, Panthers & Eels.

Problem is league is a tribal game, the storm are artifical, the titans dont work, raiders/Warriors fans can vanish overnight, but we know its all about TV, time zones and crap like that, if the NRL go down that path, they can have there game i will move on, i have my 2016 premership and i am happy with that

 

[Surely]

The question is would we be debating the issue if Danks hadn't poked his head in the door, at the invite by "someone".
He should have been p*ssed off the day he put his smug dial through the door, suggesting he could make every footballer super.

Thus no huge fine and no suspended fine ,no bad publicity and no need for Flanno and certain board members to communicate with each other.
All we'd have to worry about is a salary cap issue ,which is almost par for the course these days.

Instead the whole costly debacle has been like a long running costly episode of Days of our Lives.

The blame has to lie with:
Whoever invited Danks to the party.
Flanno for not understanding the implications of having a cowboy like him ,on board.
The board members who thought communicating with Flanno after being forbidden to do so was all in order.All virtually telling the NRL honchos ,we'll do it our way.
And the CEOs ATT.

And we now get this.`

Russell (and it pains me to say this)did what any responsible CEO should do, ensure the financials were in line with the NRL's requirements.To ignore such would be as bad ,as being involved initially.Cover ups are not on.

The dude that apparently invited Manlys long serving sports scientist is training young Val for his nfl stint

Irony

 

[BatteredFlake]

Taipan that is where my whole issue with Flanno comes from.

He was told, explicitly, by someone whose opinion was relevant and whose opinion absolutely should have been listened to that Dank should not be employed or listened to.

The response with no consideration was "F^&k off".

Flanno, imo, got off lightly.

NRL coaches have a long and celebrated history of overruling club doctors on concussions, Painkillers . Playing with injuries ,coming back from injury etc When this happened it was well past due time that NRL and ALL clubs made it clear in their rules and contracts that Duty of care calls were absolutely 100% in the hands of The QUALIFIED , Licenced Medical Doctor of the club To be overseen by NRLS own QUALIFIED Medical Expert. This was absolutely a case of management (Club level AND NRL level) abdicating their own responsibilities.

I wonder if the Manly club Doctor approved the Calves Blood injections?Wonder if Souths Doctor approved Burgess Playing on with Broken Jaw and probably concussion as well ?? Coach says F**k off ? Doctor says dont bother coming tomorrow you are finished in NRL.. Simple isn't it?

 

[taipan]

The dude that apparently invited Manlys long serving sports scientist is training young Val for his nfl stint

Irony

Yeah I know, didn't want to mention his name, he helped screw the club.

BTW Went down to Cronulla for a walk and coffee with mates this morning.Guess who was walking around with his partner and another couple .Val Holmes the wide receiver of the NFL.

 

[snout]

At a time when theres a range of emotions and differing opinions l have a genuine excitement about the nek chapter.

Bit of a clean slate at the moment. We go on and on about the other 'big' clubs and how they just continually get away with it.
Surely after years of debacle we have identified we are not smart enough to compete in the under the table stuff with them. In reality you need the big end of town in your corner with their know-how in regard to business dealings of presenting one thing whilst doing something totally different. We have tried....gawd every admin we have had has basically had a go.

And its cost us financially and now its cost flanno his job.

Whether Barrys done right or wrong what he has done is assured us is we dont have any nasty revelations awaiting us next year after we win our 2nd GF.
And thats reassuring.
A relief.

Dino has advised today that we have satisfied the league and we are on track to deal our way out. We have 9 mil on the way.
We have cleared the air and pulled back the rug.
The NRL will be off our back.
We have a blank canvas for a new coach to build a success.
Thanks flanno but your era has gone. We needed change. With SJ and our youth coming thru he wasnt the guy.

Above all...we have the roster.
If we can get it right with the coach selection...its a time to be genuinely excited about the Sharks future.

After a week to digest whats taken place - would we turn time back that wish never happened - or take whats happened and be presented with whats coming.
l take the latter.

The only downer for me is Flannos welfare.
Hes in a bad place.
Hes a good guy...and he should never have been left to his own devices. Others need to feel the guilt for that - it always had to end badly. Had to.
They just kept giving him a bit more rope and a bit more until he had enough rope.
He was never smart enough to get away with it.

 

[snout]

... Theres been an opinion on here about our self -reporting and there being another agenda. l originally thought no way. Now lm not so sure its no way. An interesting perspective. Anyways....the future is looking bright. Unless we go the morris/Dymock direction...then we show we haven't learnt a thing from this.

 

[BatteredFlake]

... Theres been an opinion on here about our self -reporting and there being another agenda. l originally thought no way. Now lm not so sure its no way. An interesting perspective. Anyways....the future is looking bright. Unless we go the morris/Dymock direction...then we show we haven't learnt a thing from this.

Interesting Perspective in the last two posts from your own good self Mr Snout! First really believable thing with a positive outlook .Agree with most of it , not sure about the NRL off our back bit, but hope you are right. Anyway thanks for making me see a bit of hope for a team worth following.

Agree with the sentiments about Flanno too .

 

[Stake Removed]

Well said Snout, I hope Flanno knows how much we appreciated what he has done for the club the premership, putting us on the map as a club who is always a contendor, no one has ever gone through life not making a mistake Flanno made his.

I hope he is doing well, those who can contact please make sure best wishes always sent on, time for him to enjoy the no stress of the sharks or the nrl for a while.

Maybe a stint in Super League after a season off, maybe the Wolfpack take them to the first title, get out of the NRL for a while