If perth is such a can't miss home run for nrl expansion..?!

[Perth Red]

So 4k players. Rugby has 12k & force got punted

30.1k Touch participants (jnrs up 3.6%)
4100 registered players (up 12.1%, up 35% for womens game)
10k RL experience participants

wtf has a bad decision, amongst many, by the ARU got to do with the price of cheese? In ground breaking news, a sport that invests more in a State has bigger participation rates. Geez thanks Einstein!

 

[Wb1234]

Wonder why murdoch came crawling back to negotiating table if superleague clubs were killing it?! Could be the Sydney clubs & large tv audience they provide is what broadcasters seek?!

After the 97 grand final the arl had won

they should’ve just started new teams in Brisbane Canberra north qld and New Zealand and let the super league clubs die off

only the dogs and Penrith should’ve been allowed back

 

[Pippen94]

How about a heartland club 'folding? Is that failure as well?
In which case why are people talking about the Bears? Why did we go back to Brisbane2 after the failure of the Crushers? Why the push to move more Dragons games to Wollongong or Tigers to Campbelltown after the "failure" of Wests and Steelers? Or it could be that things change, times move on, what was true yesterday may not be true today. That as environments change what might not have worked yesterday would work very well tomorrow.

Great, tell everything reds will boast today that force didn't when they got dumped in 2019 (except rugby has richer backer & more registered player)?!

 

[Pippen94]

30.1k Touch participants (jnrs up 3.6%)
4100 registered players (up 12.1%, up 35% for womens game)
10k RL experience participants

wtf has a bad decision, amongst many, by the ARU got to do with the price of cheese?

Wtf are rl experience ppl?! Groupies & wags?!
So reds should be 1/3 as successful as force who got assed

 

[Wb1234]

Wtf are rl experience ppl?! Groupies & wags?!
So reds should be 1/3 as successful as force who got assed

Hahhaha

 

[Perth Red]

Wtf are rl experience ppl?! Groupies & wags?!
So reds should be 1/3 as successful as force who got assed

good troll. Sure if the only criteria and influence for the success of a professional sports club is the number of registered grass roots players your logic (lol) would have validity. As the two are not even remotely linked, you dont!

You'd have to ask NRL, they are the ones who now count "participation" rates rather than registered players.

 

[Pippen94]

good troll. Sure if the only criteria and influence for the success of a professional sports club is the number of registered grass roots players your logic (lol) would have validity. As the two are not even remotely linked, you dont!

You'd have to ask NRL, they are the ones who now count "participation" rates rather than registered players.

Cool, so you'll stop bringing up those 40k from here on out?!

 

[Perth Red]

Cool, so you'll stop bringing up those 40k from here on out?!

you're the one who keeps bringing it up lol But sure, and just so you dont forget and ask again:
30.1k Touch participants (jnrs up 3.6%)
4100 registered players (up 12.1%, up 35% for womens game)
10k RL experience participants

so will you stop your rubbish troll posts now?

 

[The_Wookie]

every professional sport has managed to sustain a professional
Club in perth, except nrl. either that means nrl is so weak it couldnt match that or so stupid it just hasnt Bothered.

Tony Sage - Glory Owner - has for years complained about the losses his team makes. Sage says losses have soared to $40 million since he became a club owner in 2007 and sole owner two years later.

The Wildcats struggled until around 2015 when they delivered a million dollar profit.

The Force were esentially bankrupt until Andrew Forrest came on to the scene.

West Coast went broke before 1991 and had to be bailed out early on, but rapidly developed into a power house after that.

Do you think an NRL team would have perservered?

 

[Colk]

Expansion club folding is failing. Lol, ppl here trying to talk way around truth.
Tell me how lions needed bailing out ten years ago if you think single city teams can't fail?!!

You are obviously trying your best to be intellectually dishonest.

You can frame it however you want but Norths and Balmain getting cut is exactly the same as Perth, Adelaide, Chargers and whoever else getting cut. They all got cut because they were considered expendable. End of. To suggest otherwise is going through mental gymnastics to try and fit some agenda

Now to try and also frame it by stating that because some team died during the period of the biggest upheaval in the game that it is likely to happen again; particularly at à time where the game has significantly more money is also ludicrous. Rugby League, like fumbleball could afford any risk in Australia or New Zealand, so the chances of any team folding now (for both codes) is very remote.

 

[bad boy bubby]

You are obviously trying your best to be intellectually dishonest.

You can frame it however you want but Norths and Balmain getting cut is exactly the same as Perth, Adelaide, Chargers and whoever else getting cut. They all got cut because they were considered expendable. End of. To suggest otherwise is going through mental gymnastics to try and fit some agenda

Now to try and also frame it by stating that because some team died during the period of the biggest upheaval in the game that it is likely to happen again; particularly at à time where the game has significantly more money is also ludicrous. Rugby League, like fumbleball could afford any risk in Australia or New Zealand, so the chances of any team folding now (for both codes) is very remote.

Just to correct you there mate, Balmain did not get cut. In fact they passed the criteria test but had already committed to the merger with West's as they were not confident of passing.

 

[Colk]

Just to correct you there mate, Balmain did not get cut. In fact they passed the criteria test but had already committed to the merger with West's as they were not confident of passing.

Fair enough, thanks for that. It all happened in my early teens. My point still remains though from a logical standpoint- all teams that got cut were cut - one cut can’t be considered differently to another.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Fair enough, thanks for that. It all happened in my early teens. My point still remains though from a logical standpoint- all teams that got cut were cut - one cut can’t be considered differently to another.

No probs, and I agree.
On any given year the criteria may not have been met by numerous teams that passed that year.

 

[Wb1234]

Just to correct you there mate, Balmain did not get cut. In fact they passed the criteria test but had already committed to the merger with West's as they were not confident of passing.

You know how devastated I was when I found this out

this is why for a long time I had season tickets for souths

their only option was a full takeover by your mob where south’s got nothing not even the shorts like Illawarra did lol

They took the two most successful Sydney clubs and killed off one and merged the other then wondered why the nrl for years after had a plastic feel and was struggling big time

 

[Colk]

No probs, and I agree.
On any given year the criteria may not have been met by numerous teams that passed that year.

I know. It was a crap time for the game. I do get tired of posters always looking back on it though. Yes, it is important to learn from history but you shouldn’t be thinking that we are anywhere near the same set of circumstances and therefore let our thoughts be dictated by it

 

[Wb1234]

Just to correct you there mate, Balmain did not get cut. In fact they passed the criteria test but had already committed to the merger with West's as they were not confident of passing.

I know. It was a crap time for the game. I do get tired of posters always looking back on it though. Yes, it is important to learn from history but you shouldn’t be thinking that we are anywhere near the same set of circumstances and therefore let our thoughts be dictated by it

It’s relevant for expansion talk because most of the potentials were around back then and it was expansion last time which it caused it

the game has literally been afraid to expand since super league

until the current guy took over and was determined to force through expansion

 

[bad boy bubby]

You know how devastated I was when I found this out

this is why for a long time I had season tickets for souths

their only option was a full takeover by your mob where south’s got nothing not even the shorts like Illawarra did lol

They took the two most successful Sydney clubs and killed off one and merged the other then wondered why the nrl for years after had a plastic feel and was struggling big time

Yeah the Balmain faithful should feel hard done by.
I tell you something, at the time when the mergers were all going ahead, after St. George/Illawarra, I thought Cronulla/Souths would be a very beneficial merger. Controlling the land mass from La Perouse to Kurnell.
I also thought that Balmain and North Sydney would have been a better merger.
Controlling all of the CBD and inner west and north. Could have been called the Sydney Roar (way before the brissie soccer team had that name) giving history to both mascots. Made more sense to me that West's and Canterbury merged.
Anyway, if we are to learn from history in rugby league the motto should read "don't f**k it up again!"

 

[bad boy bubby]

I know. It was a crap time for the game. I do get tired of posters always looking back on it though. Yes, it is important to learn from history but you shouldn’t be thinking that we are anywhere near the same set of circumstances and therefore let our thoughts be dictated by it

As I said in the other post
Motto: "don't f**k it up again!"

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah the Balmain faithful should feel hard done by.
I tell you something, at the time when the mergers were all going ahead, after St. George/Illawarra, I thought Cronulla/Souths would be a very beneficial merger. Controlling the land mass from La Perouse to Kurnell.
I also thought that Balmain and North Sydney would have been a better merger.
Controlling all of the CBD and inner west and north. Could have been called the Sydney Roar (way before the brissie soccer team had that name) giving history to both mascots. Made more sense to me that West's and Canterbury merged.
Anyway, if we are to learn from history in rugby league the motto should read "don't f**k it up again!"

Mergers don’t work

you can’t merge clubs will long histories

super league was a fluke it’ll never happen again but the players and clubs are the biggest obstacle to the growth of the game

 

[Colk]

It’s relevant for expansion talk because most of the potentials were around back then and it was expansion last time which it caused it

the game has literally been afraid to expand since super league

until the current guy took over and was determined to force through expansion

I agree that it is relevant but it is relevant to a point though.

So long as the game heeds the biggest lesson which is not expanding too much, too quickly then it will be fine.