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Is Cleary a dud?

Panfa

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Dud is an understatement last time he was here 1 semi final series in 4 yrs comes back we go from possible premiers to wooden spoon favouritism in 9 weeks hes not a dud hes got no idea.Time to get rid of the jobs for the boys club aka wallace ciraldo and co bring in some smart football brains and sack the under performing 1st grade duds in mansour whare katoa egan or spoon is inevitable.
 

Abacus

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Hahaha. Nathan has come out saying the squad have let training standards drop. Sounds like he's protecting daddy.

Its one of the primary responsibilities of the coaching staff, led by the head coach, to set and maintain training standards. Players will get away with whatever you let them.

FFS, Nathan. Open your eyes and see that Daddy has f**ked your season and potentially your representative aspirations this year.
 
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Hahaha. Nathan has come out saying the squad have let training standards drop. Sounds like he's protecting daddy.

Its one of the primary responsibilities of the coaching staff, led by the head coach, to set and maintain training standards. Players will get away with whatever you let them.

FFS, Nathan. Open your eyes and see that Daddy has f**ked your season and potentially your representative aspirations this year.

Where’d you read this?
 

unKwn

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Where’d you read this?
Penrith halfback Nathan Cleary admits the Panthers playing squad let their standards slide which has contributed to their woeful start to the NRL season. Penrith halfback Nathan Cleary says he and his teammates have been "too nice" to each other after letting their standards slide this NRL season.

The Panthers have been left scrambling for answers after they provisionally slumped to last spot in the wake of their 30-4 Magic Round thumping to the Wests Tigers on Friday.

Coach Ivan Cleary has vowed to speak to his players and staff in the next 24 hours and launch an investigation after admitting they lacked effort and execution during the Suncorp Stadium rout.

Halfback Nathan said the squad, himself included, were guilty of letting things slip on the training paddock and he and his teammates needed to be harder on each other.

"As soon as we step out onto the training paddock, we need to do things right and be honest with each other and hold each other accountable," Cleary said.

"We're probably being too nice to each other early on this year.

"I think everyone is hurting right now and rightly so. No one intends to lose games. It's just not up to scratch."

Cleary said everyone in the playing squad needed to take a hard look at themselves after leaking 60 points over the last fortnight - following their 30-12 defeat to Canberra the week prior.

"The little things you just let go by on the training field," Cleary said.

"It comes down to accountability and responsibility within the team. I've been guilty of that myself, I have to look at my own game."

Cleary said with his side at 2-7, he was finding it hard to contemplate representative duties and wouldn't be drawn on whether he expects to retain his NSW Origin jumper.

After being pre-season fancies, the Panthers find themselves needing to win 10 of their last 15 to make the top eight.

Two years ago, they came from a similar position, winning 11 of their last 15, to finish seventh.

Five-eighth James Maloney, who is also struggling to stay in Blues contention, said he didn't have any answers.

Throughout his career, success has followed Maloney wherever he has gone, reaching a grand final with the Warriors and winning titles with the Sydney Roosters and Cronulla.

And he admitted he had never been in a side in such a dire situation.

"I didn't see any of this coming. I've never been in this position like this. It's new for me," Maloney said.

"I don't have the answers. If I had the answers, we wouldn't be in this situation."
 
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"A shattered Ivan Cleary has declared the Panthers will conduct a full review of the entire football department after slumping to last on the premiership ladder."



The last time The Panthers had a review of the football dept it resulted in the coach getting sacked...
Twasn't the coach doing the review last time though
 

Fangs

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So rumours confirmed then? Ivan is way too soft on discipline/training.

We've gone from way too hard (Griffin) to this. Players took advantage and here we are.
 
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Penrith halfback Nathan Cleary admits the Panthers playing squad let their standards slide which has contributed to their woeful start to the NRL season. Penrith halfback Nathan Cleary says he and his teammates have been "too nice" to each other after letting their standards slide this NRL season.

The Panthers have been left scrambling for answers after they provisionally slumped to last spot in the wake of their 30-4 Magic Round thumping to the Wests Tigers on Friday.

Coach Ivan Cleary has vowed to speak to his players and staff in the next 24 hours and launch an investigation after admitting they lacked effort and execution during the Suncorp Stadium rout.

Halfback Nathan said the squad, himself included, were guilty of letting things slip on the training paddock and he and his teammates needed to be harder on each other.

"As soon as we step out onto the training paddock, we need to do things right and be honest with each other and hold each other accountable," Cleary said.

"We're probably being too nice to each other early on this year.

"I think everyone is hurting right now and rightly so. No one intends to lose games. It's just not up to scratch."

Cleary said everyone in the playing squad needed to take a hard look at themselves after leaking 60 points over the last fortnight - following their 30-12 defeat to Canberra the week prior.

"The little things you just let go by on the training field," Cleary said.

"It comes down to accountability and responsibility within the team. I've been guilty of that myself, I have to look at my own game."

Cleary said with his side at 2-7, he was finding it hard to contemplate representative duties and wouldn't be drawn on whether he expects to retain his NSW Origin jumper.

After being pre-season fancies, the Panthers find themselves needing to win 10 of their last 15 to make the top eight.

Two years ago, they came from a similar position, winning 11 of their last 15, to finish seventh.

Five-eighth James Maloney, who is also struggling to stay in Blues contention, said he didn't have any answers.

Throughout his career, success has followed Maloney wherever he has gone, reaching a grand final with the Warriors and winning titles with the Sydney Roosters and Cronulla.

And he admitted he had never been in a side in such a dire situation.

"I didn't see any of this coming. I've never been in this position like this. It's new for me," Maloney said.

"I don't have the answers. If I had the answers, we wouldn't be in this situation."

Thanks, but have you got the link?
 

Tronald Crump

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So rumours confirmed then? Ivan is way too soft on discipline/training.

We've gone from way too hard (Griffin) to this. Players took advantage and here we are.

Cleary always has been soft on discipline and the players take advantage of it.

This is going back his 1st stint at the club.

Anthony Griffin to replace sacked coach Ivan Cleary at Panthers
October 19, 2015

The fact he didn’t act on a number of cases of player ill-discipline was also a reason why Gould acted.
https://outline.com/J3bFj6

From memory a few of the senior players back then were letting standards slip.
 

tripster

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@Panther_Daz

The Board election thread seems to be locked so people can’t reply. I assume that is an error. I couldn’t work out where else to post - can you please fix it. Feel free to delete this post afterwards.
 

Exsilium

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What’s worse is that we will have little to no chance of attracting the right caliber of players to turn this around with Ivan in charge and Gus gone.

His record is average, his football style is boring and we’re not a team that typically recruits strongly from outside of the internal ranks.

At what point doesn’t think this become untenable for Dave O’Neil , Ivan or Nathan?

It’s either the guy who signed Ivan to keep his son, his son who realised playing for his dad is not all it’s cracked up to be or Ivan who’ll likely lose the playing group.

Shitty situation really.
 

TheFrog

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What’s worse is that we will have little to no chance of attracting the right caliber of players to turn this around with Ivan in charge and Gus gone.
We're going to have to turn this around with the players we've got. Hook was in the exact same situation two years ago, it's a test of the coach and his ability to motivate his team.

So is being sacked by the same club twice.

Two phat payouts from the same joint, now THAT is an achievement.
 

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