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"It’s very realistic to say that we’ll have a second team in Brisbane in 2023": V'landys

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Nrl would be stronger now if it was made up predominantly of Sydney & Brisbane teams to maximize audience in biggest markets. Then throw in a team in each of remaining capitals & auckland
We should look at Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan as potential areas for expansion. We're living in the Asian century and bringing these places on board will inject money into the game that will blow AwFuL out of the water.
 
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Hartwood

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Yes this, although I'd be looking at a different 4 teams, taking more into account on who's ready to be competitive right away, not cities where we haven't pinned on a map
To me Perth and Adelaide are worthy of note, but they need to be formed from scratch, same as A 2nd NZ side,
I'd be looking at Dolphins, Jets, Pride and Bears.

*Sunshine State Dolphins
*West Brisbane Jets
*P.N.G. Pride (Cairns/P.N.G bid)
*Northern Sydney Bears (CC)

I feel like the firehawks bid screams BS for most of their goals, i saw the presser junkit they held, it was a bit of a letdown, more of a we are hear to tell you that we are ready, and our plans are to target people via mobile apps, you know like the lakers do...
but really they were not ready to take questions by the press. They got a bit flustered when they were asked.

Im for expansion if the clubs who bid are invested in their community and create a club from the ground up. Seems that bidders just want the license before doing anything of note
I like the idea of a PNG team, but I think they should be based out of Darwin. The cowboys are the North Queensland cowboys, not the townsville cowboys and should play 3 games per year in Cairns. Darwin is a new market but isn't as AFL obsessed as ADL or Perth, could be an NRL heartland within a short while given there is no other pro team
 

MugaB

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We should look at Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan as potential areas for expansion. We're living in he Asian century and bringing these places on board will inject money into the game that will blow AwFuL out of the water.
This twiggy shit again, dude give it a rest, what players are coming out of those areas?
We'd get more 1st graders out of Tasmania than we get from all those asian cities you mentioned combined...
Invite them into international games, not club football
 

MugaB

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I like the idea of a PNG team, but I think they should be based out of Darwin. The cowboys are the North Queensland cowboys, not the townsville cowboys and should play 3 games per year in Cairns. Darwin is a new market but isn't as AFL obsessed as ADL or Perth, could be an NRL heartland within a short while given there is no other pro team
Cairns is actually a hell of a lot closer to port moresby than darwin is, plus they've both been in talks to form a joint bid, sharing 6 home games each at PM and Cairns, plus a lion mascot, (Pride) representing the PNG team, fits with the current Hunters of the QRL
 

Hartwood

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We should look at Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan as potential areas for expansion. We're living in he Asian century and bringing these places on board will inject money into the game that will blow AwFuL out of the water.
It'd be great to grow the game in Asia, but as expansion teams? Not sure about that
 

Hartwood

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Cairns is actually a hell of a lot closer to port moresby than darwin is, plus they've both been in talks to form a joint bid, sharing 6 home games each at PM and Cairns, plus a lion mascot, (Pride) representing the PNG team, fits with the current Hunters of the QRL
Yeah I do get that. I agree that it makes more business sense, but I'd prefer the more ambitious aproach given Cairns is already only short flight from an existing team
 

Pippen94

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We should look at Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan as potential areas for expansion. We're living in he Asian century and bringing these places on board will inject money into the game that will blow AwFuL out of the water.

I like out of the box thinking tho so keep throwing stuff out there but this ain't happening.
NRL already has advantage internationally.
 

Pippen94

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I like the idea of a PNG team, but I think they should be based out of Darwin. The cowboys are the North Queensland cowboys, not the townsville cowboys and should play 3 games per year in Cairns. Darwin is a new market but isn't as AFL obsessed as ADL or Perth, could be an NRL heartland within a short while given there is no other pro team

PNG will eventually have own team but based entirely in PNG just like qld cup
 

Pippen94

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Yes this, although I'd be looking at a different 4 teams, taking more into account on who's ready to be competitive right away, not cities where we haven't pinned on a map
To me Perth and Adelaide are worthy of note, but they need to be formed from scratch, same as A 2nd NZ side,
I'd be looking at Dolphins, Jets, Pride and Bears.

*Sunshine State Dolphins
*West Brisbane Jets
*P.N.G. Pride (Cairns/P.N.G bid)
*Northern Sydney Bears (CC)

I feel like the firehawks bid screams BS for most of their goals, i saw the presser junkit they held, it was a bit of a letdown, more of a we are hear to tell you that we are ready, and our plans are to target people via mobile apps, you know like the lakers do...
but really they were not ready to take questions by the press. They got a bit flustered when they were asked.

Im for expansion if the clubs who bid are invested in their community and create a club from the ground up. Seems that bidders just want the license before doing anything of note

Perth will be 18th. Can't see any more regional clubs. Would love to Bears return but game too stupid to realize the hole left in North Sydney. Ippie Logan team will never get up because of broncos & titans. Too bad suns can't move to Tassie & then titans move to southern Brisbane
 

Perth Red

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That's like saying Perth ppl have 16 teams to choose from to support. If you think any existing team represents that area you have no idea.
I'd like to see metrics of north Sydney compared to Perth because I reckon the former adds more value to NRL.
Haha it’s nothing like that at all! I’m talking about actually supporting a club, you know like going to games. If I live in any of the northern suburbs of sydney I have six clubs I could easily get to games to see and become a full member if I was 8nter3ted in follow g the nrl.
It’s very small minded 1970’s thinking to believe that every suburb of a city needs a club!
 

Pippen94

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Haha it’s nothing like that at all! I’m talking about actually supporting a club, you know like going to games. If I live in any of the northern suburbs of sydney I have six clubs I could easily get to games to see and become a full member if I was 8nter3ted in follow g the nrl.
It’s very small minded 1970’s thinking to believe that every suburb of a city needs a club!

North shore to pennant hills & maybe beyond isn't a small suburb. When A league looked to expand most recently, this region out performed every other option in metrics.
Don't get why somebody in chatswood having affinity for say Canterbury or Penrith but hey you post a lot of weird stuff
 
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Nrl would be stronger now if it was made up predominantly of Sydney & Brisbane teams to maximize audience in biggest markets. Then throw in a team in each of remaining capitals & auckland
Is there a way to keep all 9 Sydney teams, 3 in Brisbane, 3 in NZ without and add Adelaide and Perth?

If we add another 2 teams to Brisbane and another 2 to New Zealand then we'll have 20 teams. Putting teams in Adelaide and Perth would bring the number to 22.

How would the smaller clubs in Sydney compete with the bigger clubs for sponsors

I think some Sydney teams will have to abandon their suburban/LGA names to attract sponsors from Eastern Asia over the next 20 years. Southern Sydney Sharks would be more appealing to investors from the Chinese, Singaporean and Japanese markets than Cronulla Sharks.

Teams like St George Dragons might develop a larger fanbase by relocating to Singapore or Hong Kong.

Singapore has 5.5m people and a purpose built national stadium that's enclosed and air conditioned, with a capacity of 55k. If the Dragons relocated to Singapore they would be the largest and most prestigious sports team in the country and bring valuable broadcast revenue to the game. Singapore is also on the same time zone as Perth, so having them and the Pirates represented would present two games for prime time viewing in that part of the world.
 
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This twiggy shit again, dude give it a rest, what players are coming out of those areas?
We'd get more 1st graders out of Tasmania than we get from all those asian cities you mentioned combined...
Invite them into international games, not club football
It's not about players. Money and customers is what all businesses need to survive. Whether you like it or not, East Asians are investing in Australia by buying up our land and outperforming whites at school. In 30 year from now most of the high paying jobs in this country will be held by East Asians. Most Australians will probably be of East Asian descent by the end of the century. Australia doesn't have many global businesses any more, so if we want our game to survive then we will have to get businesses from East Asia to invest in our game.

Can you see Chinese companies giving a shit about Manly Sea Eagles, Cronulla Sharks, Canterbury Bulldogs or Penrith Panthers?

I can't. They'll want teams that represent large and prestigious markets so that attaching their company's logo to their jersey appeals to millions of people.
 

The Great Dane

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Whos playing in a 12k stadium?
If you're thinking the dolphins, they'll be at Suncorp for at least 10 home games, then sunshine coast for 1 or 2
Somebody's telling porky-pies again-
Will the team be playing Home games at Suncorp Stadium?
Suncorp Stadium is one of the best rectangle stadiums in the world and the Dolphins NRL team intend to have Suncorp Stadium as its main HOME ground. This is an important element and consolidates the Dolphins position as Brisbane’s second team. The Dolphins Stadium which holds 10,000 people seated will likely host some games and there is also the potential to look at playing games at the Sunshine Coast Stadium each season. The Dolphins inclusion into the NRL will ensure that Brisbane has Live NRL Rugby League on offer nearly every week during the NRL Season.
http://www.dolphinsnrl.com.au/credentials/

Notice how intentionally non-committal and vague they are, it's almost like they don't want to clearly state what their plans truly are. I wonder why that could be?!
 

Pippen94

First Grade
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Is there a way to keep all 9 Sydney teams, 3 in Brisbane, 3 in NZ without and add Adelaide and Perth?

If we add another 2 teams to Brisbane and another 2 to New Zealand then we'll have 20 teams. Putting teams in Adelaide and Perth would bring the number to 22.

How would the smaller clubs in Sydney compete with the bigger clubs for sponsors

I think some Sydney teams will have to abandon their suburban/LGA names to attract sponsors from Eastern Asia over the next 20 years. Southern Sydney Sharks would be more appealing to investors from the Chinese, Singaporean and Japanese markets than Cronulla Sharks.

Teams like St George Dragons might develop a larger fanbase by relocating to Singapore or Hong Kong.

Singapore has 5.5m people and a purpose built national stadium that's enclosed and air conditioned, with a capacity of 55k. If the Dragons relocated to Singapore they would be the largest and most prestigious sports team in the country and bring valuable broadcast revenue to the game. Singapore is also on the same time zone as Perth, so having them and the Pirates represented would present two games for prime time viewing in that part of the world.

League would be better off if nswrl merged with brl, but league too far gone for that. Nrl better off having team in each market with over 1 million ppl than 3 kiwi teams.

Speaking of too far gone Singapore & Hong Kong will never happen
 

mongoose

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Whos playing in a 12k stadium?
If you're thinking the dolphins, they'll be at Suncorp for at least 10 home games, then sunshine coast for 1 or 2
Hope you're right. Whichever team it is should be aiming to build a strong membership base and attract corporates. Playing majority of games at Redcliffe and Sunshine Coast won't do that.
 

Jamberoo

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Somebody's telling porky-pies again-

http://www.dolphinsnrl.com.au/credentials/

Notice how intentionally non-committal and vague they are, it's almost like they don't want to clearly state what their plans truly are. I wonder why that could be?!
The NRL holds the cards so they will get what they want. If that is a certain number of games at Suncorp, they just put that in the contract with the Dolphins. Not hard.
 

Jamberoo

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It's not about players. Money and customers is what all businesses need to survive. Whether you like it or not, East Asians are investing in Australia by buying up our land and outperforming whites at school. In 30 year from now most of the high paying jobs in this country will be held by East Asians. Most Australians will probably be of East Asian descent by the end of the century. Australia doesn't have many global businesses any more, so if we want our game to survive then we will have to get businesses from East Asia to invest in our game.

Can you see Chinese companies giving a shit about Manly Sea Eagles, Cronulla Sharks, Canterbury Bulldogs or Penrith Panthers?

I can't. They'll want teams that represent large and prestigious markets so that attaching their company's logo to their jersey appeals to millions of people.
I can’t see any Chinese companies showing any interest in Rugby League at all. Have you seen any indications that this may one day be a thing? And do we really want Chinese interests controlling our game?
 

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