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It's on: TV rights to sports in chaos as News signals an NRL offload

Flapper

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No one's worried about 7 possibly trying to bury any future NRL coverage to protect the AFL a la the NSL?
 

Pazza

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We have 26 rounds of Regular Season football - the AFL has 22 (that will change).

We have State of Origin - they have nothing.

We have Test Football -they have virtually nothing.

our total product is more bang for your buck than AFL thats forsure!

I think we could also seell monday night footy seperately, i can see ONE HD jumping all over that!
 

El Diablo

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No one's worried about 7 possibly trying to bury any future NRL coverage to protect the AFL a la the NSL?

if they buy it and time slots are written into the contract by the NRL then they could not bury it ala the NSL
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theage.com.au/business/little-room-to-move-for-tvs-football-coverage-20091008-goyo.html

Little room to move for TV's football coverage
ELIZABETH KNIGHT
October 9, 2009

The move by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation to cut several aspects of its relationship with rugby league has been described by one insider as a cupboard-cleaning exercise that will involve getting rid of the company's 50 per cent of the NRL and its ownership of this year's premier team, Melbourne Storm, and its majority ownership of the Brisbane Broncos.

News Corp's part ownership of the NRL is a legacy of the truce made between it and Kerry Packer after the monumental Super League battle waged 10 years ago that threatened to split the code.

Murdoch apparently now feels there is nothing to be gained by continuing to own any part of the NRL, the structure of which is messy and riddled with conflicts.

The idea is to appoint a group of businessmen as commissioners (a board) to oversee the operations of the new NRL. A similar view was apparently arrived at by a group of club bosses who for several months have been hatching plans to clean up the corporate structure.

The NRL is owned half by News and half by the Australian Rugby League. The revenue it receives primarily from selling multimedia rights and then from gate takings goes to the various clubs.

Part of the News Corp exit deal will be retention of its rights of first and last refusal over the all-important television broadcasts, which Murdoch clearly feels are strategically important.

The value of News Corp's 50 per cent of the NRL is negligible and is unlikely to be sold. Rather, News would withdraw. It was suggested that the $8 million in revenue the NRL ownership earns for News is pumped back into the teams it owns - the Storm and Brisbane Broncos.

It is also understood that News has no desire to sell either its 50 per cent of Fox Sports or its 25 per cent of Foxtel.

Meanwhile, there is the battle between the NRL and the AFL over which should receive higher bids for the television rights to the games.

The AFL contract is worth about $780 million over five years and the NRL about $600 million.

Thanks to recent ratings popularity the NRL is suggesting it should not play second fiddle to the AFL. Clearly the AFL, which is now looking to renegotiate the multimedia rights for $1 billion, disagrees.

It is now a race to see who can tap the networks first. While the NRL rights come up for negotiation next year and is thus the first cab off the rank, there are suggestions the AFL will bring its negotiations forward.

There is a definite first mover advantage to these negotiations as the kitty available to all the networks is limited.

The late Kerry Packer's famous swansong deal was to launch a huge bid for the AFL and wrest the coverage from Seven.

Seven is now upsetting the status quo by suggesting it wants a piece of the ARL pie.

Yesterday the Herald reported that rugby league would face a short-term funding gap and that the chief executive of the Seven Network, David Leckie, expected the code would seek new revenue by unbundling its TV rights and offering four separate packages - Origin, Test matches, NRL regular-season matches and the finals series.

''We're very keen to submit a bid for State of Origin and Test matches,'' Leckie said. ''We think rugby league should split its properties into three, or four, with even the finals going to a separate network.''

Perhaps Leckie's is the only one of the three commercial networks in the enviable position of having its programming executives in charge of its kitty.

Seven's private equity partner KKR is no doubt looking over its shoulders assessing whether entering a bidding war for any part of the disaggregated football package would attract a return from advertising dollars.

At Ten the management will be closely watched by its banking syndicate, which would be asking many questions about any big-ticket program acquisitions. At Nine the position is even more dire.

Having said that, these big-ticket sporting events are the highlight of the television calendar and will attract premium advertising dollars.

There will be a push to outlay an increased amount for pay television and digital and mobile phone rights. But if either the NRL or the ARL disregards the fact that the bidders are financially strapped, they are likely to be disappointed.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/afl-keen-to-beat-league-to-the-loot/2009/10/08/1254701106840.html

AFL keen to beat league to the loot

Jacquelin Magnay | October 9, 2009

AUSTRALIAN Football League officials have been jockeying behind the scenes to put their television rights on the market ahead of the National Rugby League to win the lion's share of available funds.

Broadcast sources say for the past few months there have been informal discussions about the AFL rights and, in particular, a push to bring forward the next deal. At the moment the AFL rights expire at the end of 2011 and the NRL 12 months later.

The AFL believes that by moving first in a tough economic climate it will limit the pool of money available for rugby league.

It is understood the NRL is planning to hold off until 2011 to start its broadcast negotiations because it deliberately ensured all its major contracts, including telephony, internet and major naming sponsorships, expired together in 2012. Having the entire code's assets up for grabs at one time is seen as a financially strategic move.

The NRL's belief strong grand-final ratings last weekend would help their next TV deal was punctured slightly with the revelation yesterday the AFL's decider had in fact beaten its rugby league counterpart in national ratings, not the reverse as had been claimed originally. Recalibrated figures lifted the AFL's ratings by almost 400,000 nationally.

The Channel Seven boss, David Leckie, has indicated he is interested in the NRL State of Origin series and Network Ten has expressed interest, at the right price, for part of the league broadcast.

The NRL went early on its broadcast deals last time by renegotiating with Nine. But the AFL benefited from a bidding war by the late Kerry Packer, who forced Seven and Ten to pay a record $780 million.
 

Perth Red

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Interesting how the mood of the articles has changed. It has gone from RL demanding News leave to News not wanting to keep involved with running RL due to its problems. They are obviously spinning ready for a premature withdrawl without seemingly losing face.
 

miguel de cervantes

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Firstly,

1st article said:
While the NRL rights come up for negotiation next year and is thus the first cab off the rank, there are suggestions the AFL will bring its negotiations forward.

2nd article said:
At the moment the AFL rights expire at the end of 2011 and the NRL 12 months later.

looking beyond that blunder, the following worries me:

Part of the News Corp exit deal will be retention of its rights of first and last refusal over the all-important television broadcasts, which Murdoch clearly feels are strategically important.
Not sure exactly what this entails, but I hope it doesn't mean what I think it means.

Finally

The NRL's belief strong grand-final ratings last weekend would help their next TV deal was punctured slightly with the revelation yesterday the AFL's decider had in fact beaten its rugby league counterpart in national ratings, not the reverse as had been claimed originally. Recalibrated figures lifted the AFL's ratings by almost 400,000 nationally.
Since when? Recalibrated? Is this not the second time the AFL ratings have been 'recalibrated'? Sounds sus to me.
 

elbusto

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/afl-keen-to-beat-league-to-the-loot/2009/10/08/1254701106840.html

beat you to it afl article scourers.

and how do you recalibrate ratings....and find an extra 400,000 people!? lol sounds incredulous, love to hear how it works.
They probably had no choice about the ratings - Mikeo probably bored them into submission. As for the Television deal - rushing at this is a dumb move with the Economy still not back on keel. Waiting is a better idea as the better economists are saying we will be out of the mire in 2011 or 2012 at the latest.

The AFL as usual is over competing. Shows how desperate and paranoid they are. Its what happens when you play a game which has no international standing and strong local competitors like League.

The AFL sees enemies everywhere which is why its admininstrators and so many of its followers are so mentally deranged.
 

Goddo

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Nothing new in that. Just the merkins might bring forward their negotiations.

They obviously feel very threatened by NRL at the moment.

The $1billion demtrieoaeu wanted is looking more and more unlikely.

I don't think the NRL should react to this at all... just keep the ball rolling with the commission, reform, expansion, splitting media rights, and we will mop the floor within 10 years with the merkins.
 

elbusto

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Nothing new in that. Just the merkins might bring forward their negotiations.

They obviously feel very threatened by NRL at the moment.

The $1billion demtrieoaeu wanted is looking more and more unlikely.

I don't think the NRL should react to this at all... just keep the ball rolling with the commission, reform, expansion, splitting media rights, and we will mop the floor within 10 years with the merkins.
agreed
 

bluesbreaker

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Geoff Dixon would be fantastic to have on the commission.

A very accomplished businessman, and very well respected in the world of aviation management.

Could certainly swing some sponsorship cash.

:lol: Are you for real? Take it from someone whose worked against the dude, he's a deadset f**kwit with no idea. He's not well respected in aviation management at all. I've seen union reps run circles around him ffs.
 

_Johnsy

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The AFL wanting to bring their negotiations forward, in an effort to limit the $$$$ left for the NRL deal says one thing, they know that we have been undersold previously, and they are shyting themselves knowing that we may get the $$$$$ we deserve this time around.
 

Goddo

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On splitting the TV rights,

I remember when Gallop had that meeting in Singapore they said that the pommie RL and NRL could no longer sell the rights to International games, as they would be sold by the international RL federation in future and the money used to promote international competions/world cup, and pay the players and officials I guess.

So, that means the NRL would only be able to sell Origin and the NRL season/finals. Anyone know more about this?
 

Dogs Of War

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The AFL wanting to bring their negotiations forward, in an effort to limit the $$$$ left for the NRL deal says one thing, they know that we have been undersold previously, and they are shyting themselves knowing that we may get the $$$$$ we deserve this time around.

And really, we should let them go first, but make sure all the Broadcasters are aware of what is on the table.

Goign second with the economy still recovering could produce a nice goldmine for us, as the AFL gets in too quick while questions about how the economy may be recovering continue.
 

meltiger

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if they buy it and time slots are written into the contract by the NRL then they could not bury it ala the NSL


They wouldnt anyway. There is no way they would choose to show Aussie Rules ahead of RL in the Northern States.


The problem is the Southern States. You'll never get C7 to agree to decent FTA coverage on any days that Aussie Rules is being shown on C7. Unfortunately, C7's coverage days are Fridays/Sundays. Precisely when we want them showing RL down here.


The ideal solution is for C7 to be in the mix, but to end up staying with C9. C7's involvement should allow for the NRL to #a - Negotiate a larger price & #b - Force C9 into contractual gaurentees about levels of coverage in the Southern states.


How the NRL deals with C9 is very simple. Make a clear statement that they will not be gaining a contract unless they agree to these gaurenteed coverage levels, ala what the AFL did last time around with the Northern States - hence why AFL is on Main Event on Friday nights. Remember, the AFL held out on agreeing to the C7/C10 bid until C7 had organised acceptable Friday night coverage in the northern states.


RL is simply to important to C9 in the northern states for them to foresake the contract simply to stop foxtel showing something live in the southern states, that they would otherwise have show after midnight.
 
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elbusto

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And really, we should let them go first, but make sure all the Broadcasters are aware of what is on the table.

Goign second with the economy still recovering could produce a nice goldmine for us, as the AFL gets in too quick while questions about how the economy may be recovering continue.
exactly
 

parano1a

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The problem is the Southern States. You'll never get C7 to agree to decent FTA coverage on any days that Aussie Rules is being shown on C7. Unfortunately, C7's coverage days are Fridays/Sundays. Precisely when we want them showing RL down here.

I've said this about a million times but the key is lobbying the government to soften the anti-siphoning legislation to allow live sport to air on digital multichannels. That way Seven could air Friday night AFL live on 7, and the NRL live at the same time on say, channel 72. Everybody wins.
 

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