Jai Field

[Drag Queen]

Well said dragonslayer
A lot of health professionals are involved and they say 1kg is about right because as he get back into training.
Especially after Christmas he will lose half of that due to heat and sweating.

It's also well documented that he has always been a fussy eater without a normal diet according to his parents. I'm positive you're right regarding the health professionals involved in his physical development, having the correct plan for Jai. He's still the quickest, even with the extra chin. Defense wise I hope he gets over that mental barrier and is able to assert himself. I'm not worried about his attacking skills though.

 

[Saint-Fez]

It's fairly normal for an 18-19 year old to put on 7-8kg's over the course of a year if they commit to a weight program & diet.

So in the context of a professional athlete who has a team of trainers, nutritionists, supplements and professional training facilities at his disposal, 12-13kgs isn't that outlandish.

Considering his initial, slight frame he probably would have put on 2-3kgs naturally. Also, he'll drop off some of the water weight during preseason so I'd say he'd start the season at a lean, 82-84kgs.

Although Dufty probably deserves to start the season at 1, fields footwork and speed is basically without rival in the NRL, so much potential in this kid it's ridiculous.

 

[Drag Queen]

It's fairly normal for an 18-19 year old to put on 7-8kg's over the course of a year if they commit to a weight program & diet.

So in the context of a professional athlete who has a team of trainers, nutritionists, supplements and professional training facilities at his disposal, 12-13kgs isn't that outlandish.

Considering his initial, slight frame he probably would have put on 2-3kgs naturally. Also, he'll drop off some of the water weight during preseason so I'd say he'd start the season at a lean, 82-84kgs.

Although Dufty probably deserves to start the season at 1, fields footwork and speed is basically without rival in the NRL, so much potential in this kid it's ridiculous.

McGregor needs to experiment with all positions, especially this one. Nobody should deserve an automatic start unless there aren't any alternatives. It's good to have alternative choices.

 

[True_Believer]

It's fairly normal for an 18-19 year old to put on 7-8kg's over the course of a year if they commit to a weight program & diet.

So in the context of a professional athlete who has a team of trainers, nutritionists, supplements and professional training facilities at his disposal, 12-13kgs isn't that outlandish.

Considering his initial, slight frame he probably would have put on 2-3kgs naturally. Also, he'll drop off some of the water weight during preseason so I'd say he'd start the season at a lean, 82-84kgs.

Although Dufty probably deserves to start the season at 1, fields footwork and speed is basically without rival in the NRL, so much potential in this kid it's ridiculous.

I could see him putting on 6 or so kilos of muscle over a year easily. The last 6.5 kilos in 6 weeks will more than likely be mostly fat. It's physically impossible to gain more than 1 pound of muscle in a fortnight - the best (and this is if everything falls into place perfectly) he could have gained in that period would be less than half that in actual muscle. And lets not forget training isn't all weights. He's doing a load of ball work, defense work and cardio which would limit his muscle gain even further.

I suspect he'll gain maybe just over half in muscle (of the total gained throughout the year) and probably retain some of the fat to ensure his weight stays at a certain level. Might slow him up a little, but the training he is doing will ensure he doesn't lose too much speed.

 

[denis preston]

It's fairly normal for an 18-19 year old to put on 7-8kg's over the course of a year if they commit to a weight program & diet.

So in the context of a professional athlete who has a team of trainers, nutritionists, supplements and professional training facilities at his disposal, 12-13kgs isn't that outlandish.

Considering his initial, slight frame he probably would have put on 2-3kgs naturally. Also, he'll drop off some of the water weight during preseason so I'd say he'd start the season at a lean, 82-84kgs.

Although Dufty probably deserves to start the season at 1, fields footwork and speed is basically without rival in the NRL, so much potential in this kid it's ridiculous.

He doesn't throw passes that Dufty can.

 

[Saintsified]

Its not good enough we are all coaches, everyones a nutritionist now

 

[slippery5]

Who are you referring to?

Subject of post : Jai Field.

 

[dragonssamy61]

He doesn't throw passes that Dufty can.

Agree dennis
He also only been playing tackle footy for short period 5 to 6 years.
His background is touch footy.
So he needs to learn to defend and get use to being belted.

 

[BBTB]

So you don’t think 13kgs in a short period of time on a smallish frame is a concern?
Regardless of wherher it is muscle or bulk or whatever the same heart and lungs of a developing 20 year old has to deal with it whilst he tries to get the same if not higher energy outputs.
Whilst we have dietitians and physics etc etc looking after players there sole purpose is to get s body shape they believe suits RL but none of them are heart specialists or orthopaedic specialists and that is why I have some concerns
I can’t think of any health specialist that would think force feeding yourself to gain 15% - 20% body weight at 20 years of age is perfectly good for you.

Most of the weight is fluid.
I would say Creaitine is being used .Its the quickest way to add size.That will cease once the cycle is over & with the inceased running & gym work he probably hit playing weight of around 82_83 kls in jan/18.

 

[giboz71]

McGregor needs to experiment with all positions, especially this one. Nobody should deserve an automatic start unless there aren't any alternatives. It's good to have alternative choices.

Spot on.

 

[Belta]

Not an expert but most sensible people would agree gaining or losing weight is better and more likely to be of long term benefit with less health concerns if it is done gradually. There are exceptions to the rule of course and young healthy bodies would be more adaptable. So when reading this article I do hope it's done right but I what I do feel is that Field is very determined and to me it's an encouraging sign for a young talented footballer. Hope he continues working hard, it's a tough gig to crack I'd imagine

 

[TomRedVRiver]

It's fairly normal for an 18-19 year old to put on 7-8kg's over the course of a year if they commit to a weight program & diet.

So in the context of a professional athlete who has a team of trainers, nutritionists, supplements and professional training facilities at his disposal, 12-13kgs isn't that outlandish.

Considering his initial, slight frame he probably would have put on 2-3kgs naturally. Also, he'll drop off some of the water weight during preseason so I'd say he'd start the season at a lean, 82-84kgs.

Although Dufty probably deserves to start the season at 1, fields footwork and speed is basically without rival in the NRL, so much potential in this kid it's ridiculous.

100% spot on, couldn't have put it any better.
It was absolutely necessary for Jai to put on that weight and considering he is surrounded by a team of Sport Scientists I wouldn't be worrying too much.

I've always believe Field's best position is Fullback. He's got a nice passing game on him and his short kicking game is okay, but from watching him over the last couple of years... He definitely shouldn't be playing in the halves. When Jai has the pressure of any sort of game-management or ball-playing on his shoulders he tends to crumble a little bit, but when he's allowed the run the ball, he is f**king electrifying. The modern game requires both of your halves to have some sort of game-management ability, have a look at guys like Anthony Milford. He was a running Fullback and has had to develop that managerial aspect of his game to successfully make the transition, particularly given his size.

Jai just needs to run. Forget setting up plays or taking control, just give him the ball in space and let him run. He's a Fullback through and through. Ever since he made the transition to 1 in NSW Cup he's gone up a level. Fullback should be between Duff and Jai for 2018.

 

[possm]

Jai had 2 significant issues last year:

1) Poor tackling Technique
2) Lack of size

He is in the process of attending to point 2. We all hope he manages to maintain his speed. If he does address both issues there are a number of positions in the back line he could initially compete for.

Jai's aim is to play full back. If both Field and Dufty rise to FG standard it will be one very interesting season for the Red V !!

You'd have to wonder why these elite juniors are not taught how to tackle during their development years. I understand about the size and weight of juniors but just can't understand why they are not toaught the basics.

 

[True_Believer]

You'd have to wonder why these elite juniors are not taught how to tackle during their development years. I understand about the size and weight of juniors but just can't understand why they are not toaught the basics.

He probably has been but his size doesn't allow him to make as much of an impact in the tackle as a bigger person. He's probably hesitant in tackling bigger players. Look at Moses - good player, but his defense is woeful. It comes down to his size and more than likely a mental barrier put up through years of being trampled by much larger players. Soward was the same when we first got him. He couldn't tackle for shit and got palmed off easily. Was always a target for the big men. Was only later in his career did he get better at it, but still not what I would call an effective tackler.

This is why you can't just throw these youngsters into first grade. It needs to be a gradual process. Sure he can run, but defense is also part of the game and if he is letting players past due to defensive indecisions or physical deficiencies, his confidence get's dented which in turn creates indecision in his approach to the game. It's not as easy as just "throwing them in" - especially when they are slight players.

 

[dragonssamy61]

He probably has been but his size doesn't allow him to make as much of an impact in the tackle as a bigger person. He's probably hesitant in tackling bigger players. Look at Moses - good player, but his defense is woeful. It comes down to his size and more than likely a mental barrier put up through years of being trampled by much larger players. Soward was the same when we first got him. He couldn't tackle for shit and got palmed off easily. Was always a target for the big men. Was only later in his career did he get better at it, but still not what I would call an effective tackler.

This is why you can't just throw these youngsters into first grade. It needs to be a gradual process. Sure he can run, but defense is also part of the game and if he is letting players past due to defensive indecisions or physical deficiencies, his confidence get's dented which in turn creates indecision in his approach to the game. It's not as easy as just "throwing them in" - especially when they are slight players.

Well said true
another example was benji when he first come in great in attack but poor defensively.
Remember he was injured a lot till he bulked up .

 

[Life's Good]

McGregor needs to experiment with all positions, especially this one. Nobody should deserve an automatic start unless there aren't any alternatives. It's good to have alternative choices.

I agree to an extent but too many changes won’t help develop combinations. Granted some positions should have question marks, in my eyes 2-5(I know, DQ, you would include Dufty). Will be interesting to see what unfolds.

 

[league]

You have to find a spot for Field somewhere in the 17, the kid has too much talent and potential not to play. Although Dufty deserves to start the year at 1, Field imo is the better prospect.

 

[Drag Queen]

I agree to an extent but too many changes won’t help develop combinations. Granted some positions should have question marks, in my eyes 2-5(I know, DQ, you would include Dufty). Will be interesting to see what unfolds.

They've got the pre-season to figure something out LG. If it isn't working after the first few rounds something needs to change. I would say 1-5 are open game tbh.

 

[Life's Good]

They've got the pre-season to figure something out LG. If it isn't working after the first few rounds something needs to change. I would say 1-5 are open game tbh.

I agree that if 1-5 isn’t working after a few rounds something needs to be done. Given that SuperCoach is so stubborn who knows if that will happen.

 

[Drag Queen]

I agree that if 1-5 isn’t working after a few rounds something needs to be done. Given that SuperCoach is so stubborn who knows if that will happen.

Nothing new will happen under SuperCoach LG. He is that predictable.