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James Roberts to the Broncos (now Souths)

getsmarty

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I'm just happy that an up and coming coach like Bennett has been given a bit of a roster boost so that he can make the team competitive. It's only fair that if you lose an Origin player you should be allowed to replace them with a guy who has played, or will likely play, Origin or for Australia straight away...

Parker, Thiaday, Boyd, Gillett ? Aus/QLD
Hunt ? Aus
Reed ? Eng
Blair, Niko, Kahu, Glenn ? NZ
Milford ? Samoa
Big Joe ? Tonga
Mcguire ? Fiji/Qld

Hardly fair...compare that to most other rosters.
 

perverse

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Parker, Thiaday, Boyd, Gillett – Aus/QLD
Hunt – Aus
Reed – Eng
Blair, Niko, Kahu, Glenn – NZ
Milford – Samoa
Big Joe – Tonga
Mcguire – Fiji/Qld

Hardly fair...compare that to most other rosters.

I don't think the Knights even have 17 players who have played first grade in their squad for next year. We've lost Kurt Gidley (450k), Beau Scott (500k), BJ Leilua (300-400k) and a host of other lesser players to replace them with Hodkinson on 600k and Mickey Paea on a pie and coke contract. And apparently we have no room for anyone else. Most of our money went into fending off the Dogs from the Mata'utias and Brisbane for Gagai. Apparently we had to trump Brisbanes '300k' contract with $575k under our own cap to best their offer. Impossible to compete under these circumstances. We pretty much pay double of players, or just watch reserve graders run around for us. Or both, it would seem.
 

unbreaK

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Parker, Thiaday, Boyd, Gillett ? Aus/QLD
Hunt ? Aus
Reed ? Eng
Blair, Niko, Kahu, Glenn ? NZ
Milford ? Samoa
Big Joe ? Tonga
Mcguire ? Fiji/Qld

Hardly fair...compare that to most other rosters.

Hunt played like 2-3 games for Aus and probably won't again any time in the near future, Reed hasn't played for England in years, Nikorima, Kahu & Glenn only play for NZ when there's injuries. And representing Samoa, Tonga & Fiji is hardly a notable accomplishment.

The only real rep players you listed are the first 4.
 

Incorrect

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Absolutely correct, but unfortunately I believe the Knights did settle on a payout. We're soft as wet toilet paper. We could have held out and made him play Cup.

FMD!!!

Did you guys have Scott Seward negotiating on behalf of the Knights? You know, that bloke who originally drew up the contract for Foran to join the Eels? The guy who agreed to pay Foran 1 million bananas if he wanted to walk away at any stage! Talk about bending over!
 

Peppers

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At the end of the day this player was allowed to leave a club that ran second last to join a powerhouse that lost a grand final in the final 5 seconds. Thats what stinks.
 

perverse

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FMD!!!

Did you guys have Scott Seward negotiating on behalf of the Knights? You know, that bloke who originally drew up the contract for Foran to join the Eels? The guy who agreed to pay Foran 1 million bananas if he wanted to walk away at any stage! Talk about bending over!

Yeah, it was dragging out too long and I think we just shat the bed. When you've got Michael Hagan as your director of football, you don't expect too much more.
 

nick87

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I don't think the Knights even have 17 players who have played first grade in their squad for next year. We've lost Kurt Gidley (450k), Beau Scott (500k), BJ Leilua (300-400k) and a host of other lesser players to replace them with Hodkinson on 600k and Mickey Paea on a pie and coke contract. And apparently we have no room for anyone else. Most of our money went into fending off the Dogs from the Mata'utias and Brisbane for Gagai. Apparently we had to trump Brisbanes '300k' contract with $575k under our own cap to best their offer. Impossible to compete under these circumstances. We pretty much pay double of players, or just watch reserve graders run around for us. Or both, it would seem.

Hay Pervy!
Whatda reckon our chances of convincing the Knights to spend some of their cap money subsidising BJ's contract despite him being a FA this year and inking a fresh deal with us?

Id like to not be paying a full 100 cents on the dollars for the "honour" of having Beej play for us

kthxbye
 

getsmarty

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Hunt played like 2-3 games for Aus and probably won't again any time in the near future, Reed hasn't played for England in years, Nikorima, Kahu & Glenn only play for NZ when there's injuries. And representing Samoa, Tonga & Fiji is hardly a notable accomplishment.

The only real rep players you listed are the first 4.

What a load of dribble...If your represent your country once..your a rep player. Fairly simple concept for most people to grasp.
 

perverse

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Hay Pervy!
Whatda reckon our chances of convincing the Knights to spend some of their cap money subsidising BJ's contract despite him being a FA this year and inking a fresh deal with us?

Id like to not be paying a full 100 cents on the dollars for the "honour" of having Beej play for us

kthxbye

Just email dumbshits@newcastleknights.com.au. I'm pretty sure the NRL have automated the process of f**king us in the arsehole to save on admin costs.
 

Nice Beaver

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I love how people are saying we're cheating the cap, anyone seen the moves Manly made for next season? They've upgraded like 10 positions whilst being able to keep the $10m wonder child DCE. Amazing salary cap management!

Notable losses: Foran, Ballin, Hiku
Notable gains: Myles, Brown, Walker, Taupau, Lussick, Koroisau

Let's compare that to the Broncos off-season

Notable losses: Hodges, Dodds, Vidot
Notable gains: Roberts

Wow wtf!!!!!! Cheaters!!!!!!

:lol::lol::lol:

Notable losses for the Bronco's are Vidot and Dodds, yet players leaving Manly of equal calibre ie. Lui, Sene-lafao, Justin Horo, Ligi Sao are omitted from your list. :crazy:

Not to mention we had to subsidise that idiot Twatmough last season which no longer applies in 2016.

And we have picked up high rollers like Moltzen and Green in our recruitment so it aint all superstars.

Hodges money was allocated to player upgrades and it was well known and documented.

They need to lose a player or two to have picked up Roberts. No doubt.
 

DiegoNT

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Weren't Dragons offering him a lot more than either Broncos or Souths?

On the cap. He'd be able to get equal (if not more) at Souths and broncos after the tpa's kick in. Don't believe the talk that a young guy would turn down $150,000 just for the chance to play under wayne Bennett
 

Cockadoodledoo

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I doubt money was the main reason Roberts signed with the Bronco's, it is their ability to keep shit out of the media. He would have seen what happened to Aaron Gray and Dylan Walker. If they were Broncos players, it would never have seen the light of day.
 

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Parker, Thiaday, Boyd, Gillett ? Aus/QLD
Hunt ? Aus
Reed ? Eng
Blair, Niko, Kahu, Glenn ? NZ
Milford ? Samoa
Big Joe ? Tonga
Mcguire ? Fiji/Qld

Hardly fair...compare that to most other rosters.


OK OK.... in the interests of showing that other sides have been allowed to assemble teams just as chock full of rep players I'll make some comparisons

Let me compare it to say.... oh I don't know... how about the 2010 premiership winning team...

Darius Boyd - QLD/Aust
B.Morris - NSW/Aust
Gasnier - NSW/Aust
Cooper - NSW/Aust
Nightingale - NZ
Soward - NSW
Hornby - NSW
Costigan - QLD
Young - NSW/Aust
Weyman - NSW/Aust
Beau Scott - NSW/Aust
Creagh - NSW/Aust
Jeremy Smith - NZ

Fien - NZ
Merrin - NSW
Prior
Saffy


And if you'd like we could go back even further to show that lots of teams have had just as much rep quality... Let's pick, Oh I dunno, maybe Brisbane in 1993?

O'Neill - QLD/Aust
Hancock - QLD/Aust
Johns - NSW
Renouf - QLD/Aust
Carne - QLD/Aust
Walters - QLD/Aust
Langer - QLD/Aust
Lazarus - NSW/Aust
Walters - QLD/Qust
Hohn - QLD
Gillmeister - QLD/Aust
Cann - QLD
Matterson - NSW

A.Gee - QLD
Plath
Peter Ryan - QLD



So as you can clearly see, Wayne Bennett isn't the only coach that has been able to stack his teams full of Origin and international players, the 2 lists above clearly show past teams have been just as "fortunate"....
 

getsmarty

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So as you can clearly see, Wayne Bennett isn't the only coach that has been able to stack his teams full of Origin and international players, the 2 lists above clearly show past teams have been just as "fortunate"....[/QUOTE]

Correct...and Saints lost 7 of those players the following year. Broncos came within a whisker of taking out 2015 , and make their team stronger. that's TPA's working for you.
 

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