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Jarred Maxwell......

spartan2153

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who was complaining when we recieved 5 penalty's in a row for exact same tackles we were doing on penrith.

Like forward pass said. With 20 seconds to go you have the ball & somehow lose from there. Its not the ref its the players that f*cked up. I have no idea what there being taught but we have found new ways to lose
 

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I know people who aren't massive fans but say they follow teams and buy merchandise etc who are over the dud calls and are losing interest because of the garbage officiating.......

That's not for me to judge them but it does happen and I have heard it more and more in the last year is all....

IMO, It's a poor excuse to say you don't go to the footy because of the refereeing.

Suity
 

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Official View: Refs got Panthers-Eels call right




Bill Harrigan NRL.com Mon, Jul 18, 2011 - 4:30 PM



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Referees co-coach Bill Harrigan answers your questions from Round 19, including the controversial finish to the Penrith-Parramatta match. Copyright: NRL Photos



Referees co-coach Bill Harrigan answers your questions from Round 19 of the NRL Telstra Premiership.
Why were Parramatta not awarded another set of six in the dying seconds against Penrith after an apparent charge-down by the Panthers? Why did the referee blow time-off?
Jarryd Hayne kicked the ball straight into a Panthers player and the ball was a rebound, it was not a charge-down. Therefore the referees made the right decision that it was play-on and still the last tackle for the Eels. I have had a few enquiries about whether the referee should have blown time-off after the tackle on Luke Burt and after reviewing the play today, the answer is yes. The referee got it right.
The requirement of Luke Burt on the last tackle is to leave the ball on the ground and then either go to marker or his defensive position. In this case, both referees were yelling ‘last tackle, last tackle’. Burt got tackled and it looks like the referee has blown a penalty, when in fact he is indicating that it is a changeover due to six tackles being complete.
If Burt had left the ball on the ground and got up as he should have, the referee would have allowed the game to continue and would not have blown time-off.
Burt gets up with the ball and then Tim Mannah and Ben Smith run over to cover the ball, and then Smith takes the ball and walks off with it.
That is the reason the decision was made to call time-off.
The referee blows time-off when he believes a team is losing an opportunity because of the other team wasting time.
Had the ball been left where the tackle was made, there would have been no need for the referee to call time-off.
Watch the Penrith v Parramatta highlights
Was the try awarded to Parramatta's Casey McGuire similar to that of Sam Thaiday’s in Origin? Why was it awarded?
The try was OK. The first contact from Taniela Lasalo is on his teammate Casey McGuire in the act of scoring a try. You are allowed to add weight to your own team member as long as you don’t touch the defender.
We know in the end his body does touch Coote, but his initial contact is with his own player and that is why the referee ruled benefit of the doubt.
The decision the referee has to make with the ‘driver’ is whether they affect the defender executing his tackle. We allow players to lend weight as long as they do it to their own player and not the defender – as is what happened with the Sam Thaiday example in State of Origin 3.
Watch the Casey McGuire try for Parramatta
The 'Ref's Call' video referee decision with Knights winger James McManus – why was this sent back from the video referee to the on-field? Why was it awarded?
The video referee did not have all the information in front of him; he could not see the ball and the line all at the same time. He didn’t have all the information that he needed and that is why he sent it back to the on-field referee (ref's call) to make a decision.
The referee was checking a double movement because he actually could see the ball touching the line. He knew that McManus had bounced short but had eventually touched the line, and wanted to know whether or not it was a double movement.
Because the video referee didn’t have all that information, he sent it back to the referee, who awarded the try.
When do the video referees use the ‘ref's call’?
They rule benefit of the doubt when they have all the information in front of them and still can’t tell whether it is a try or not.
They will send it back to the on-field referee when they don’t have all the information they need to make a decision.
http://nrl.com/official-view-refs-got-panthers-eels-call-right/tabid/11010/newsid/63831/default.aspx
 

Y2Eel

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Someone should also mention that Everyone thought the dipshit Maxwell was blowing a penalty at the same time Burt was holding onto the ball thats probably the main reason everyone stood there asking WTF!
 
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lol it's so funny isn't, nothing has changed since Robert Finch left Harrigan has been the problem the whole time but He is former no.1 Super league ref, 1st offical to sign with super league, the scum started super league still run the NRL. Penrith were also a super league club.
 

Y2Eel

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Oh and on Harrigans view everytime there is a change over now and a player holds the ball when he gets up it should be time off...
 

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The confusing part of this is playing at the ball, so it is OK to jump in front of the kicker as long as you half turn your back, now he did not have his hands in the air etc- but was trying to block the kick.

At the end of the day, we stuffed up, but let us see if someone jumps up and turns his back, is that a deliberate act to block the kick or not.

Billy, don't want you to be too easy on the Eels, you never were when out on the field.
 

Y2Eel

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The confusing part of this is playing at the ball, so it is OK to jump in front of the kicker as long as you half turn your back, now he did not have his hands in the air etc- but was trying to block the kick.

At the end of the day, we stuffed up, but let us see if someone jumps up and turns his back, is that a deliberate act to block the kick or not.

Billy, don't want you to be too easy on the Eels, you never were when out on the field.



This weekend there will be the same thing happen but in the first half and it will be called six again.. Has been six again all season...
 

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This weekend there will be the same thing happen but in the first half and it will be called six again.. Has been six again all season...

That's exactly what will happen, and no one in the media will bat an eyelid. :roll:

Suity
 

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He would have been better to not say anything or try and justify it :crazy: It's actually insulting :roll:

You wouldn't have to look too far even in that same game to find instances which fly in the face of what Harrigan has said :sarcasm:
 

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He would have been better to not say anything or try and justify it :crazy: It's actually insulting :roll:

You wouldn't have to look too far even in that same game to find instances which fly in the face of what Harrigan has said :sarcasm:

Yep.

Bill is actually admitting that the rules of Rugby League are different in the 80th minute than what they are in the 1st. There would be a million examples of what Luke Burt did - (holding the ball) and time out not being called.

Dickhead.

Suity
 
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you can bet london to a brick if that change over was inside the first 70mins of the game it would not have been time out ethier. I think Hindy should have blown up deluxe about it on the field and slowed the game down even more and set our defence, while he leads by example he needs to question Refs more, they aren't scared to give us a dud call as there is no back lash, but if they did it to the Storm Cam Smith and Bill Slater would be all over the ref giving it to him.
 
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I also hope that our club sends a letter of complaint to the NRL.
But it seems no one at the club as the balls to say or do anything.
 

Y2Eel

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Why was it if it was a change over and the panthers play the ball why was Maxwell Motioning a penalty to penrith no the usual handover they do? (the one where the ref puts a hand in the air and does the play the ball with his foot on the mark)
 

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and this is why refereeing standards will always be shit

Referees never stop the clock when players do what Burt did. the ref f**ked up and he won't admit it
 
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