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Jarryd Hayne - Make him an Eel for Life

El Diablo

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s-full-potential/story-fni3fh9n-1227023414343

With a side built to get the best out of him, Jarryd Hayne is finally reaching his full potential

Peter Sterling
The Daily Telegraph
August 14, 2014 12:00AM

WHEN Andrew Johns describes an individual as “the most complete player” he’s seen, it makes me sit up and take notice.

Especially when he isn’t talking about Wally Lewis, Mal Meninga, even modern greats Cam Smith or Greg Inglis.

In recent times, Joey has waxed lyrical about Parramatta fullback Hayne, whose game has reached a level this year where, mentally, he is now as good as he is physically.

And for a long time we’ve known what Jarryd was capable of physically. But what was missing in his game was the mental toughness and consistency to match what he could do with football in hand.

Under coach Brad Arthur, Hayne is a more focused and aware player. And like The Beatles, he is also getting more than a little help from his friends.

While the coach has refined Hayne’s game, he has also done the same for Chris Sandow, Corey Norman and Joseph Paulo.

I’ve spoken before about the stripping back of Sandow’s game so that he isn’t concerned with the organisation or structured play. Now, that’s being left to both Norman and Paulo, who have gone about the job in an unflappable fashion.

This, in turn, has taken pressure off their freakish fullback.

In recent years almost everything has been left to Hayne as he was the best runner, the best passer, even the best long kicker.

Now, however, he can pick and choose to a much greater degree while still maintaining his involvement.

There is no doubt Jarryd is a far better player than the one who reached such heights in 2009, although it may well be the case that if the Eels are to force their way into finals football, he will again be the man most responsible.

Three doubles in the past three weeks has moved him to the top of the NRL tryscorers list and set him on course to become the first Eel to score most tries in a season since Steve Ella in 1982.

Friday night is a further test for Parramatta and they would probably prefer to take on a Canterbury side not facing its fifth straight defeat.

But after sailing along so comfortably a month ago — and on the back of a highly impressive victory against Melbourne in the southern capital — the Dogs have gone from eyeing off a top four finish to hanging onto a finals berth.

Coach Des Hasler has lamented the lack of ball control from his team and that’s backed up by statistics — in their past four losses they have twice completed in the 60 per cent mark and the other two low 70s.

Each one of those has been substantially inferior to their rivals.

The loss of Josh Reynolds will again put the spotlight on Canterbury’s attacking game, which has struggled for points, against an Eels side that has scored more tries from inside its own half than any other NRL side.

Parramatta showed great conviction against Canberra last weekend and I have no doubt in previous seasons it would have been a game they lost.

So many missed opportunities gave an indication it might not have been their afternoon, but the Eels hung tough and showed real belief in their game. Finally, it was a lovely ball from David Gower to Hayne that broke the Raiders back.

The winner of Friday night’s game will again come down to a battle of belief between two wonderful arch enemies.
 

T.S Quint

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I’ve spoken before about the stripping back of Sandow’s game so that he isn’t concerned with the organisation or structured play. Now, that’s being left to both Norman and Paulo

So that's what Paulo does.

I was beginning to wonder.
 

guruminga

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Latest article on nrl.com has Hayne saying he knows why he's so good. On initial reading of it people will just say he's up himself. But I think he is just explaining that he knows he is a good player, which he is, but it doesn't matter how good he is if he doesn't have a team around him supporting him so he can do his stuff. It's essentially the same gist as what Sterlo us saying above. I reckon it will rub some people up the wrong way and give them more anti-Hayne ammo, but I like his honesty.

By the way, I'm on my phone so can't post the article.

G.
 
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I read it. Will pass by with barely a mention because for whatever reason, everyone loves Hayne atm. May get mentioned next time he has a quiet game tho.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The best one was 'poor positional play'. Because even though he was outstanding in every other facet of the game, somehow Hayne wasn't an elite fullback because of this barely relevant, intangible and unprovable assertion. Morons.

#haters
 
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Yeh, my thinking too. His athleticism may have gone gone down half a notch, while his positional play may have risen half a notch, but there's f**k all in it. Certainly not enough for the casual watcher to notice. IMO, he's just got very slightly better as time goes by.
 

Gary Gutful

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The Kearney Fan Club is already gathering at their regular meeting point.

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That little dog f**king loves Kearney.
 

Gary Gutful

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The best one was 'poor positional play'. Because even though he was outstanding in every other facet of the game, somehow Hayne wasn't an elite fullback because of this barely relevant, intangible and unprovable assertion. Morons.

#haters

Why is it 'barely relevant' that a fullback is in the right position?
 

oldmancraigy

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Mate, if you've got a decent hallway or corridor, a few chairs and a willing assistant, you can usually get in a few LBA's before lunchtime.

I find colleagues are often unwilling to hit the gap.
They want the ball in hand to create for themselves, they won't let me make the space for them

#ballhogs


I called in Kearney to provide some coaching on that front. He smiled, and said "c'mon lads, run"
Then he paid everyone double, and told me it would take 5 years until any of them would hit the space between the chairs.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Why is it 'barely relevant' that a fullback is in the right position?

For a variety of reasons, Gary. For starters it's the opposition who largely decides whether or not your fullback is in the right spot. On top of that, even a fullback with such allegedly poor positional play as Jarryd Hayne seemed to be the first to most kicks, and saved plenty of tries.

And the ones with good positional play like Billy Slater appeared to just not be tested as much. That seemed the biggest difference.
 

oldmancraigy

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Bullshit. Sharpe/Seward/Arthur are doing a good job but they didn't build this squad.

As for Anderson, he left the Warriors in shit state too. It took years of rebuilding for them to make the finals after he left. But I acknowledge he has good initial success at a club - just like Stuart and Hagan.

As long as it suits your arguments.

Go look at the Warriors 2001-2003, and in those years, flag the players who were brought through the ranks as young players, and who the young blokes who were selected to be part of the future of the club were.

You'll also find Anderson did an excellent job at St Helens on squad building.

It is something he has actually done WELL, as compared to your mate SK, who has never done it well, but did talk about it once.

Here was the m/o at the end of 2000
New coach Daniel Anderson and CEO Mick Watson focused on signing unknown New Zealand talent. There were only six Australians in the 2001 squad, and only three foundation players – Monty Betham, Stacey Jones and Logan Swann.

Seems to have worked through 2001-2003? [[2004 he quit before the halfway point of the year.]]

If you want to praise the youth officer, praise the bloke who actually did the work in getting the young blokes to the club in the first place... Don't praise the bloke who let future Origin reps walk away...


[I won't read your reply Pou, unless you can provide something empirical that hasn't been skewed to meet your agenda]
 
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Poupou Escobar

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As long as it suits your arguments.

Go look at the Warriors 2001-2003, and in those years, flag the players who were brought through the ranks as young players, and who the young blokes who were selected to be part of the future of the club were.

Since you're the one making the argument why don't you do it?

I gave you the fact that no NRL team has made the finals within three years of Daniel Anderson's contribution. St Helens did much better after he left but it appears it's easy for the big clubs to stay at the top in the ESL.

You'll also find Anderson did an excellent job at St Helens on squad building.

St Helens' worst finish in the decade before Anderson got there was FIFTH! :lol:

Looks like he had a massive job on his hands.

It is something he has actually done WELL, as compared to your mate SK, who has never done it well, but did talk about it once.

Here was the m/o at the end of 2000


Seems to have worked through 2001-2003? [[2004 he quit before the halfway point of the year.]]

If you want to praise the youth officer, praise the bloke who actually did the work in getting the young blokes to the club in the first place... Don't praise the bloke who let future Origin reps walk away...


[I won't read your reply Pou, unless you can provide something empirical that hasn't been skewed to meet your agenda]

:lol:
 

Gary Gutful

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For a variety of reasons, Gary. For starters it's the opposition who largely decides whether or not your fullback is in the right spot. On top of that, even a fullback with such allegedly poor positional play as Jarryd Hayne seemed to be the first to most kicks, and saved plenty of tries.

And the ones with good positional play like Billy Slater appeared to just not be tested as much. That seemed the biggest difference.

How does the opposition decide where the fullback is positioned?
 

oldmancraigy

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Is it not obvious Gary?

I think the answer will yet again be something to do with Pou being right, and everyone else being wrong/ stupid :lol:
 

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