Jarryd Hayne to the NFL!

[ash411]

It's very sad that in a fictional book someone died, does it matter who did it? It's not real!

It's like being offended that you say that it was the Jedi's fault that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader.

Kind of, the only difference being that the Jewish people are actually a thing, but it doesn't make the situation any less fictional.

Also, why does having the vatican say something isn't true make it real? The Pope isn't the boss of me, and last I heard, he leads the Catholic church only, not religion in general, or even christianity for that matter...

 

[Gronk]

It's like being offended that you say that it was the Jedi's fault that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader.

Very true. I have a jedi school where i live and they have guards with light sabers. Paranoid a tad, but they thrive on the siege mentality.

 

[Kornstar]

It's like being offended that you say that it was the Jedi's fault that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader.

Kind of, the only difference being that the Jewish people are actually a thing, but it doesn't make the situation any less fictional.

Also, why does having the vatican say something isn't true make it real? The Pope isn't the boss of me, and last I heard, he leads the Catholic church only, not religion in general, or even christianity for that matter...

Very true. I have a jedi school where i live and they have guards with light sabers. Paranoid a tad, but they thrive on the siege mentality.

You mean the Jedi aren't real???? But i read it somewhere????

Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

Being a Jedi really would be shitty, you can't ever have any fun......

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Or if he wants to get a role in a movie or tv show

He might be ok for Lethal Weapon V.

 

[Chipmunk]

That you even brought up the quote in the first place. It was like you were placing the blame on Hayne for how the team played. Could have easily just said that the team were bad and didn't stick to what worked but you instead had to use a joke text message to make a point when everyone would have agreed with you if you hadn't brought up the text.

You've obviously over-read and misinterpreted a two sentence post...

I never said nor inferred The Plane had anything to do with the loss...you just interpreted it that way.

 

[Incorrect]

They called Hayne Anti- Semitic. lol.

Say anything remotely critical, even if factual, about the jews and you're labelled an anti-semite. Or a joke about them -> anti-semite... and the media the world over kow-tow to the the lot of them and vilify these apparent anti-semites....

But tell an Irish joke and everyone has a good old laugh, no harm there.... the Brits tried their best to wipe out the Irish nation and its people in the 19th century - there's a holocaust nobody ever talks about...

/rant

Go 49'ers!

 

[ash411]

You mean the Jedi aren't real???? But i read it somewhere????

Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

Being a Jedi really would be shitty, you can't ever have any fun......

I know, right? I'd abuse my Jedi powers so damn quickly...

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Say anything remotely critical, even if factual, about the jews and you're labelled an anti-semite. Or a joke about them -> anti-semite... and the media the world over kow-tow to the the lot of them and vilify these apparent anti-semites....

But tell an Irish joke and everyone has a good old laugh, no harm there.... the Brits tried their best to wipe out the Irish nation and its people in the 19th century - there's a holocaust nobody ever talks about...

/rant

Go 49'ers!

Do you really think that the Potato Famine (as f**king horrible as it was) is on a par with putting people on trains, flogging them in camps til they can no longer work, and then gassing them? And this is coming from an O'Speedwagon.

I've told some dubious Jewish jokes at times, and detest much of the behaviour of modern Israel.....but this particular issues is one that upsets Jewish people quite a bit...and quite understandably I think. In less tolerant societies they cop some real shit that is fuelled by this idea. To say that that 'the Jews' killed Jesus is similar to saying that 'the Christians' killed Joan of Arc. Jesus was (obviously) a Jew, and may well have been handed over to the Romans by some Jewish leaders. The early Christians were, in essence, similar to a number of radical Jewish sects running around the middle-East/Med in the first couple of hundred years AD.

 

[Kornstar]

I know, right? I'd abuse my Jedi powers so damn quickly...

I'd be like, f**k this shit, using the force is cool and chicks dig so i'm gun get me some pussy and kill whoever the f**k i want, and you know what? I'm gonna like it!

f**k you, Yoda! You make this Jedi shit boring!

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I'd be like, f**k this shit, using the force is cool and chicks dig so i'm gun get me some pussy and kill whoever the f**k i want, and you know what? I'm gonna like it!

f**k you, Yoda! You make this Jedi shit boring!

I had dinner with a guy last year, who is the head of some physics research school at the ANU. He assures me that we will never be able to make a light sabre. And we can put a man on the bloody moon....

 

[Incorrect]

Do you really think that the Potato Famine (as f**king horrible as it was) is on a par with putting people on trains, flogging them in camps til they can no longer work, and then gassing them? And this is coming from an O'Speedwagon.

I've told some dubious Jewish jokes at times, and detest much of the behaviour of modern Israel.....but this particular issues is one that upsets Jewish people quite a bit...and quite understandably I think. In less tolerant societies they cop some real shit that is fuelled by this idea. To say that that 'the Jews' killed Jesus is similar to saying that 'the Christians' killed Joan of Arc. Jesus was (obviously) a Jew, and may well have been handed over to the Romans by some Jewish leaders. The early Christians were, in essence, similar to a number of radical Jewish sects running around the middle-East/Med in the first couple of hundred years AD.

The end goal was the same - the methods irrelevant IMO. A slow death brought on by starvation and malnutrition by genocidal rulers might not be the same as being gassed... But I'm not sure it sounds like a better way to die either....

 

[SDM]

Maybe the stupid Irishes should have tried eating something other than a potato

 

[ash411]

I'd be like, f**k this shit, using the force is cool and chicks dig so i'm gun get me some pussy and kill whoever the f**k i want, and you know what? I'm gonna like it!

f**k you, Yoda! You make this Jedi shit boring!

I was thinking more along the lines of... geez the remote is way over there.. force powers bring me that remote..

but I like your idea too.. F**k bitches, get the monies..

I had dinner with a guy last year, who is the head of some physics research school at the ANU. He assures me that we will never be able to make a light sabre. And we can put a man on the bloody moon....

Yeah, light sabres are an unfortunate impossible dream, breaks my damn heart every time I think about it. Could you imagine the horrific injuries that would be associated if light sabres were real and in mass production? The lost limbs and just gory injuries... ugh..

 

[Kornstar]

Do you really think that the Potato Famine (as f**king horrible as it was) is on a par with putting people on trains, flogging them in camps til they can no longer work, and then gassing them? And this is coming from an O'Speedwagon.

I've told some dubious Jewish jokes at times, and detest much of the behaviour of modern Israel.....but this particular issues is one that upsets Jewish people quite a bit...and quite understandably I think. In less tolerant societies they cop some real shit that is fuelled by this idea. To say that that 'the Jews' killed Jesus is similar to saying that 'the Christians' killed Joan of Arc. Jesus was (obviously) a Jew, and may well have been handed over to the Romans by some Jewish leaders. The early Christians were, in essence, similar to a number of radical Jewish sects running around the middle-East/Med in the first couple of hundred years AD.

What about some of the atrocities that have happened in Asian countries? Why are they not as high profile as what happened in Germany? Some of the stories i've read about what these soldiers did to children and women is far worse than just gassing people? The numbers talked about are also quite large. The rape of Nanking is just one of them.

I'm not lessening the events in Germany, of course it was appalling, however it isn't on it's own yet it gets the most sympathy (maybe that is the wrong word).

I do find it interesting that you can go to jail in some countries for questioning anything about the holocaust.

Wasn't the last payment made last year too jews or something too for what happened?

 

[Incorrect]

Maybe the stupid Irishes should have tried eating something other than a potato

:lol:

Now why didn't I think of that?!

 

[Kornstar]

I had dinner with a guy last year, who is the head of some physics research school at the ANU. He assures me that we will never be able to make a light sabre. And we can put a man on the bloody moon....

I know i often sound delusional on here but i am quite aware that light sabres aren't real :lol:

I was thinking more along the lines of... geez the remote is way over there.. force powers bring me that remote..

but I like your idea too.. F**k bitches, get the monies..



Yeah, light sabres are an unfortunate impossible dream, breaks my damn heart every time I think about it. Could you imagine the horrific injuries that would be associated if light sabres were real and in mass production? The lost limbs and just gory injuries... ugh..

Definitely safer that they are only a dream, we'd need a light sabre tax if they were a reality.

but you know, if they could do it a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away why can't we do it now!!!!

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

What about some of the atrocities that have happened in Asian countries? Why are they not as high profile as what happened in Germany? Some of the stories i've read about what these soldiers did to children and women is far worse than just gassing people? The numbers talked about are also quite large. The rape of Nanking is just one of them.

I'm not lessening the events in Germany, of course it was appalling, however it isn't on it's own yet it gets the most sympathy (maybe that is the wrong word).

I do find it interesting that you can go to jail in some countries for questioning anything about the holocaust.

Wasn't the last payment made last year too jews or something too for what happened?

Don't necessarily disagree with any of that. But none of that changes the fact that the issue is very upsetting to a lot of Jewish people, and there is no great social purpose achieved in perpetuating the 'Jews killed Jesus' stuff. I prefer Kinky Friedman's take on things (live in Dublin as it happens):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ZMj5RksbE

 

[ash411]

I know i often sound delusional on here but i am quite aware that light sabres aren't real :lol:



Definitely safer that they are only a dream, we'd need a light sabre tax if they were a reality.

but you know, if they could do it a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away why can't we do it now!!!!

That reminds me of the Family Guy Star Wars Parodies, "A long time ago, but somehow in the future.."

Love those. Those who haven't checked them out, you really should, they are brilliant.

 

[Kornstar]

Don't necessarily disagree with any of that. But none of that changes the fact that the issue is very upsetting to a lot of Jewish people, and there is no great social purpose achieved in perpetuating the 'Jews killed Jesus' stuff. I prefer Kinky Friedman's take on things (live in Dublin as it happens):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ZMj5RksbE

Sorry, Barry. I think i may have changed my subject a bit. I don't believe in any god or any of that stuff so to me the book is fiction and i really struggle to fathom how anyone could fall for any of that, whatever keeps them from killing people though......oh wait, plenty of death in the name of religion.....whatever keeps them happy.....

So Hayne believing one thing and other people believing another about how some fictional dude died and who was responsible for it is about as relevant as comparing the Star Wars universe to it for me.

I am more questioning the actual acts of Germany vs Asia and the disparity between the 2. Both were appalling no matter where they're from but one gets all the attention.

I kind of hijacked that discussion and went a different direction apologies

I can see why the original discussion would be upsetting to them, just my belief's have more questions than answers for me to take any of it seriously.

 

[ash411]

Sorry, Barry. I think i may have changed my subject a bit. I don't believe in any god or any of that stuff so to me the book is fiction and i really struggle to fathom how anyone could fall for any of that, whatever keeps them from killing people though......oh wait, plenty of death in the name of religion.....whatever keeps them happy.....

So Hayne believing one thing and other people believing another about how some fictional dude died and who was responsible for it is about as relevant as comparing the Star Wars universe to it for me.

I am more questioning the actual acts of Germany vs Asia and the disparity between the 2. Both were appalling no matter where they're from but one gets all the attention.

I kind of hijacked that discussion and went a different direction apologies

I can see why the original discussion would be upsetting to them, just my belief's have more questions than answers for me to take any of it seriously.

I have to agree with you, Stalin intentionally starved more than 7 million Russian citizens (his own people in the early 30's) and the same happened later in China (During the Great Leap Forward initiative by Mao Zedong, in the late 50's early 60's. 20-30 Million people), however, these tend to get glossed over. (thanks google for helping me fill in the blanks in my memory).

It doesn't make the holocaust any less horrific and terrible, but it does however demonstrate that how much people care about atrocities depend on who tells the story, and how much you hear about it. On a level playing field, Russia & China make what happened in Germany look like a blip relatively, in terms of sheer numbers, but the fact that people don't talk about them (cause they happened more or less out of the public eye, and no one went to war over it) make it seem so much less important to most people, and the fact that people don't even know that it happened at all, boggles the mind.