Jarryd Hayne to the NFL!

[Chipmunk]

http:// http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11717596/is-kobe-bryant-reason-los-angeles-lakers-downfall

When I read this article I could immediately sense some similarities between Bryant/Lakers and Hayne/Eels situations.

Teams that invested a significant portion of their caps in a superstar with a massive ego. Multiple coaches being fired over a significantly short period with everyone/thing being blamed bar their superstar for a series of seasons with poor results. This might be a strech, but players choosing to play elsewhere because of perceived attitude problem with the superstar.

The article goes on to say that successful modern teams in the NBA are the ones that have players that are willing to sacrifice their egos and stats for the betterment of 'the team', and is critical of the Lakers for reupping with Bryant. We have let our superstar walk. I suppose only time will tell which is the right decision.

In fairness to The Plane, I think the Club has let him down with its instability at board level, coaching staff, recruitment and junior development to be able to provide him with the help he needed to win us competitions.

 

[Parra Pride]

http:// http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11717596/is-kobe-bryant-reason-los-angeles-lakers-downfall

When I read this article I could immediately sense some similarities between Bryant/Lakers and Hayne/Eels situations.

Teams that invested a significant portion of their caps in a superstar with a massive ego. Multiple coaches being fired over a significantly short period with everyone/thing being blamed bar their superstar for a series of seasons with poor results. This might be a strech, but players choosing to play elsewhere because of perceived attitude problem with the superstar.

The article goes on to say that successful modern teams in the NBA are the ones that have players that are willing to sacrifice their egos and stats for the betterment of 'the team', and is critical of the Lakers for reupping with Bryant. We have let our superstar walk. I suppose only time will tell which is the right decision.

Interestingly, Kobe also sat out the majority of the last two seasons injured, and also carries the shit out of the Lakers when he is on the court.

 

[spiderdan]

Interestingly, Kobe also sat out the majority of the last two seasons injured, and also carries the shit out of the Lakers when he is on the court.

even more interesting that kobe has won five titles in his sport whereas hayne has none.

using the basketball example, you can model a successful team in two ways. you can do what the kobe lakers and lebron james heat teams have done where a significant portion of your cap is taken up by a few key players (in nrl, johns and buderus led knights and cap drama aside, melbourne storm) or you can put together a great team where the players are all fairly capable and can put their egos aside like the spurs over the last decade (five titles).

while i'd love to see hayne come back to parra and slaughter the nrl for us, if he doesn't then life goes on. hopefully arthurs' can model parra on the san antonio spurs method of sustained success by making our side play as a team that play for each other to win.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I reckon Manly have been perfect examples of the latter method. People talk up their stars but I think individually they are all overrated. Good players the lot of them, and outstanding team-competitive attitudes, but nobody at Manly even comes close to the quality of Hayne or Thurston.

Yet they make the finals every year and appear in grand finals with amazing regularity. I'd rather be that type of team than one dominated by a single player.

 

[Avenger]

This is a very similar feel to the Canterbury 4 leaving in 1999/2000. I thought we were ruined but Brian Smith pulled a rabbit out of his arse and recruited players like Brett Hodgson, Michael Buettner, Jason Taylor, Jason Moodie and no nonsense forwards like Alex Chan, creative ones like David Solomona and we had up and comers like Pat Richards and PJ Marsh.

We must do something similar going into season 2015 and 2016 now with Hayne gone. I would target in no particualr order players like

Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
Kieran Foran
Brett Morris
Jason Nightingale
Trent Merrin
Anthony Watmough
James Maloney
Shaun Johnson
Tim Lafai
Dallin Watene Zelezniak

 

[Noise]

The Lakers/Kobe and eels/hayne comparison is ridiculous. Kobe and the lakers won titles. Multiple times. Hayne and the eels won spoons. Multiple times. Kobe has always been loyal to the lakers. Hayne pissed off mid contract. The only similarities are the yellow team colours.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

This is a very similar feel to the Canterbury 4 leaving in 1999/2000. I thought we were ruined but Brian Smith pulled a rabbit out of his arse and recruited players like Brett Hodgson, Michael Buettner, Jason Taylor, Jason Moodie and no nonsense forwards like Alex Chan, creative ones like David Solomona and we had up and comers like Pat Richards and PJ Marsh.

We must do something similar going into season 2015 and 2016 now with Hayne gone. I would target in no particualr order players like

Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
Kieran Foran
Brett Morris
Trent Merrin
Anthony Watmough
James Maloney
Shaun Johnson
Tim Lafai
Dallin Watene Zelezniak

Nice list.

Lafai would be a great pickup. He reminds me of a young Tahu back in the day.

 

[Avenger]

Nice list.

Lafai would be a great pickup. He reminds me of a young Tahu back in the day.

I just added Nightingale

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

I just added Nightingale

I was only today thinking that he would be a good option if we were to go for a classy winger. He just turned 28 yesterday, has a few good years left.

 

[EelsFan05]

The Lakers/Kobe and eels/hayne comparison is ridiculous. Kobe and the lakers won titles. Multiple times. Hayne and the eels won spoons. Multiple times. Kobe has always been loyal to the lakers. Hayne pissed off mid contract. The only similarities are the yellow team colours.

I was referring to the articles comparison of the Lakers recent struggles while investing their team in one difficult superstar player. Not Kobe's title seasons. I know its a different sport and and a different market but its hardly ridiculous. Maybe try reading the article.

 

[Jodeci]

This is a very similar feel to the Canterbury 4 leaving in 1999/2000. I thought we were ruined but Brian Smith pulled a rabbit out of his arse and recruited players like Brett Hodgson, Michael Buettner, Jason Taylor, Jason Moodie and no nonsense forwards like Alex Chan, creative ones like David Solomona and we had up and comers like Pat Richards and PJ Marsh.

We must do something similar going into season 2015 and 2016 now with Hayne gone. I would target in no particualr order players like

Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
Kieran Foran
Brett Morris
Jason Nightingale
Trent Merrin
Anthony Watmough
James Maloney
Shaun Johnson
Tim Lafai
Dallin Watene Zelezniak

Shaun Johnson signed with the Warriors till the end of 2017
Morris will be off to the Bulldogs
Tim Lafai signed with the Dogs till the end of 2017
Dallin Watene Zelezniak will be resigning with the Panthers shortly

You can take those 4 blokes off the list

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Nightingale, Foran and Watmough it is then!

 

[lingard]

I wonder how James Maloney would go as a halfback when we get rid of Sandow?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He played on the right hand side when he was at the Warriors.

 

[lingard]

Exactly.

I mean, both Price and Kenny have been negative in the past, but it seems to be a fun time for most here to criticise them - but Hayne puts his foot in his mouth and leaves the club in an awkward situation, and it's OK because he carried us for years?

I am not meaning to have a go, but I am genuinely interested - as far as I am concerned, both Price and Kenny did more for Parramatta than Hayne ever did...Or will ever do...

I thoroughly agree with you. I think it's terrible how some posters here have fun knocking our all-time greats (including Jarryd Hayne). I've made it pretty clear in other posts how I perceive Hayne. I think he's a pretty sensible, honourable young man. I think his so-called attitude problems have been largely blown out of all proportion, and were often the result of miscommunications and misinterpretations. I think that, sometimes, when there is a lot of smoke - there's just a lot of smoke.
In my personal opininon, the best players Parramatta has ever had (in terms of ability and leadership and inspiration for the team) are:
1. Jarryd hayne
2. Ken Thornett
3. Ray Price/Mick Cronin (can't split them)
4. Brett Kenny/ Peter Sterling (can't split them).
The advantage that Price, Kenny, Sterling and Cronin had over the first two, was that they were (for most of their careers) playing together in star-studded teams with two marvellous coaches (Gibson and Monie). Thornett and Hayne often had to 'carry' grossly underperforming sides with a lack of quality players and coaches. That's why I rate them higher than the other four. In fact, Thornett played with better Parramatta sides in the 60's than Hayne did in his time (though still nowhere near the quality of our eighties sides.) But I agree, it's detestable for so-called fans to bag out our past heroes. End of rant.

 

[lingard]

He played on the right hand side when he was at the Warriors.

I'm not talking about right or left - I'm talking about halfback and five-eight!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Who was our halfback this year?

 

[oldmancraigy]

C'mon Pou, it was the guy who played on the right of course.....

 

[Eelementary]

I thoroughly agree with you. I think it's terrible how some posters here have fun knocking our all-time greats (including Jarryd Hayne). I've made it pretty clear in other posts how I perceive Hayne. I think he's a pretty sensible, honourable young man. I think his so-called attitude problems have been largely blown out of all proportion, and were often the result of miscommunications and misinterpretations. I think that, sometimes, when there is a lot of smoke - there's just a lot of smoke.
In my personal opininon, the best players Parramatta has ever had (in terms of ability and leadership and inspiration for the team) are:
1. Jarryd hayne
2. Ken Thornett
3. Ray Price/Mick Cronin (can't split them)
4. Brett Kenny/ Peter Sterling (can't split them).
The advantage that Price, Kenny, Sterling and Cronin had over the first two, was that they were (for most of their careers) playing together in star-studded teams with two marvellous coaches (Gibson and Monie). Thornett and Hayne often had to 'carry' grossly underperforming sides with a lack of quality players and coaches. That's why I rate them higher than the other four. In fact, Thornett played with better Parramatta sides in the 60's than Hayne did in his time (though still nowhere near the quality of our eighties sides.) But I agree, it's detestable for so-called fans to bag out our past heroes. End of rant.

Jarryd Hayne will forever be in my eyes, the most freakishly talented player I've ever seen, and my favourite player of all time.

I'm still disappointed in some of the things he has said since leaving, but I'll get over it.

In a perfect world, I'd love for him to train in the NFL and come back to us a stronger, faster player

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Jarryd Hayne will forever be in my eyes, the most freakishly talented player I've ever seen, and my favourite player of all time.

I'm still disappointed in some of the things he has said since leaving, but I'll get over it.

In a perfect world, I'd love for him to train in the NFL and come back to us a stronger, faster player

Don't worry. If he fails and comes back all he has to do is sit on the Aussie equivalent of Oprah's couch, cry a bit more, mea culpa mea culpa, and everything will be sweet.