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Jason Demetriou

Saint_JimmyG

Saint_JimmyG

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Smurf said:
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Look at the rabble we are in now ( both in First Grade and Reserve Grade) can you believe we let this guy go.???

He had the Reserve grade absolutely humming which resulted in a premiership
( and before that a reserve grade Premiership in QLD ).

He was able to get players right on song.

He has now even served an apprenticeship under arguable the best coach ever .

Mary has done sweet FA , in his tenure , we have made the 8 , twice - just , and have had only 3 finals games with 1 win .

JD is exactly the right person we need now .
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Reads almost identically to Steve Price:

1. won a lower grade premiership.

2. also served a long apprenticeship including one under Bennett.

3. had the respect of some long serving players such as Nightingale and Morris.

In my opinion, appointing what would be a third rookie in-a-row would be an unmitigated and unnecessary disaster.

If Demetriou had the goods, he’d be coaching Brisbane now. Instead, he was bypassed in favour of a one year NRL coach, Anthony Seibold.
 
Smurf

Smurf

Juniors
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Saint_JimmyG said:
Reads almost identically to Steve Price:

1. won a lower grade premiership.

2. also served a long apprenticeship including one under Bennett.

3. had the respect of some long serving players such as Nightingale and Morris.

In my opinion, appointing what would be a third rookie in-a-row would be an unmitigated and unnecessary disaster.

If Demetriou had the goods, he’d be coaching Brisbane now. Instead, he was bypassed in favour of a one year NRL coach, Anthony Seibold.
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You raise some very good points
I suppose I am just so sick of Mary
I would take just about anyone now
 
Saint_JimmyG

Saint_JimmyG

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hewi said:
Firstly IMO, no more jobs for the old boys, so that rules out Barrett, Hornby, Young and Head.
Secondly, must have first grade experience with proven success.
Thirdly, passion.

The only one I can think of at the moment is Toovey.
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Could you define Toovey’s “proven success”?

Personally, I’d go with Brian Smith. Admittedly, he’s divisive and won’t win any club a premiership but the one thing he’d do is get the club pointed in the right direction for his successor. Smith may be keen for one last bite at the cherry.
 
Dennis Papaioannou

Dennis Papaioannou

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Saint_JimmyG said:
Reads almost identically to Steve Price:

1. won a lower grade premiership.

2. also served a long apprenticeship including one under Bennett.

3. had the respect of some long serving players such as Nightingale and Morris.

In my opinion, appointing what would be a third rookie in-a-row would be an unmitigated and unnecessary disaster.

If Demetriou had the goods, he’d be coaching Brisbane now. Instead, he was bypassed in favour of a one year NRL coach, Anthony Seibold.
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Very simplistic read on Demetriou.
First of all you forgot to mention his involvement in the NQ premiership under Green in 2015.
He was instrumental in that win.
Secondly, he was recommended to Brisbane by Bennett as his successor and it is not surprising that Brisbane overlooked him considering the circumstances of Bennett's departure.
Finally, actions speak louder than words.
Look at his CV.
Apart from his "apprenticeships", look at his results.
Furthermore, look at the style of football his teams play. Just eye candy for the fans instead of this one out clunky rubbish that is served up to us every week under McGregor and Price before that.
He is a winner and has been everywhere he's coached.
He is also a great man manager and knows how to put a coherent team together and make it perform.
Even now at Souths, he is heavily involved in their success as they sit perched on top of the ladder.
Can't really compare Demetriou with Price.
As for 3rd rookie in a row, you could be right about that.
The time to hire Demetriou was instead of McGregor.
Having said that, we don't seem to be too worried about having a "rookie" who has shown no improvement in 5 years (with 2 premature extensions), coach this once great club.
Demetriou would be a breath of fresh air if he came back.
 
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hewi

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Saint_JimmyG said:
Could you define Toovey’s “proven success”?

Personally, I’d go with Brian Smith. Admittedly, he’s divisive and won’t win any club a premiership but the one thing he’d do is get the club pointed in the right direction for his successor. Smith may be keen for one last bite at the cherry.
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Fair point, how’s this.

“THE results speak for themselves over the last four years.”
With a grand final appearance, two more finals runs, a 2015 campaign that still isn’t dead in the water and a winning percentage of 57.6 per cent, the results weren’t enough to save Geoff Toovey from the Manly chopping block this week.

But they are enough to put his record among the best of coaches to be given the punt in the NRL era.

According to the FoxSports Lab, since 1998 only six coaches have better winning records at a club they’ve since departed than Toovey does holding the maroon and white clipboard — Wayne Bennett at the Broncos and Dragons (65.2 per cent and 64.6 per cent respectively), Jason Taylor at Parramatta (62.5 per cent), Jim Dymock at the Bulldogs (62.5 per cent), Ricky Stuart at the Roosters (60 per cent), Chris Anderson at Melbourne (59.6 per cent) and his predecessor Des Hasler at the Sea Eagles (59.2 per cent
 
giboz71

giboz71

First Grade
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Saint_JimmyG said:
Reads almost identically to Steve Price:

1. won a lower grade premiership.

2. also served a long apprenticeship including one under Bennett.

3. had the respect of some long serving players such as Nightingale and Morris.

In my opinion, appointing what would be a third rookie in-a-row would be an unmitigated and unnecessary disaster.

If Demetriou had the goods, he’d be coaching Brisbane now. Instead, he was bypassed in favour of a one year NRL coach, Anthony Seibold.
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It's rare we agree, but you're spot on. There is absolutely no evidence that JD would make a good FG coach. Replacing Mary with JD would be a desperation move made simply to replace the current goose in the chair.

Your comparison to Price is correct. And Bennett anointed JD the next coach of the Broncos on his way out, the same way he anointed Price.

As if he would strengthen a team he would have to coach against. He's way too smart for that and we fell for it hook, line and sinker with Steve Price.

Bennett won a comp. Smith and Waite got us to grand finals. Need an experienced, proven coach at this club, History proves it. No more rookies.
 
possm

possm

Coach
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hewi said:
Firstly IMO, no more jobs for the old boys, so that rules out Barrett, Hornby, Young and Head.
Secondly, must have first grade experience with proven success.
Thirdly, passion.

The only one I can think of at the moment is Toovey.
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Yea, just bring in Gould and sack Mary and the first grade coaching staff. Let Gould select the staff and coach first grade until he hires a proven first grade coach.
 
Dragonslayer

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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possm said:
Yea, just bring in Gould and sack Mary and the first grade coaching staff. Let Gould select the staff and coach first grade until he hires a proven first grade coach.
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Who, of the "proven" 1st grade coach will/would (a) is available, and (b) wants to quit their current club to come to the Dragons?

The rest are rookies or are sacked coaches with the same ilk as McGregor.
In any case Gould, I think (and if he did come to the Dragons) would push for Ciraldo, again another rookie.
 
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Carlton

Juniors
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Dragonslayer said:
Who, of the "proven" 1st grade coach will/would (a) is available, and (b) wants to quit their current club to come to the Dragons?

The rest are rookies or are sacked coaches with the same ilk as McGregor.
In any case Gould, I think (and if he did come to the Dragons) would push for Ciraldo, again another rookie.
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I have thought about this and believe Anthony Griffin would be a good match for a couple of years followed by a coach with a more inclusive style. I dont think he is the coach for the longer term but is ideal as the catalyst to bring a hard edge to the team.

My reasons are I think the playing squad and assistant coaches/staff need some tough love and discipline applied. There are people within these groups that need to hear some harsh assessments of their performances.

I also think that some hard decisions need to be made about first grade players and juniors to keep and I think Griffin would not back away from making them.
 
TruSaint

TruSaint

Referee
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Carlton said:
I have thought about this and believe Anthony Griffin would be a good match for a couple of years followed by a coach with a more inclusive style. I dont think he is the coach for the longer term but is ideal as the catalyst to bring a hard edge to the team.

My reasons are I think the playing squad and assistant coaches/staff need some tough love and discipline applied. There are people within these groups that need to hear some harsh assessments of their performances.

I also think that some hard decisions need to be made about first grade players and juniors to keep and I think Griffin would not back away from making them.
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Yep,

His credentials are not poor either. He is a disciplinarian, which we need. Has taken the Broncos to one game of a GF ( with Lockyer missing ) losing to eventual premiers.

Win rate at Broncos 55%
At Penrith 58%
 
Old Kogarah Boy 1

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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Gareth67 said:
I had always thought to myself how a narrow burgundy ‘ V ‘ adjacent to our Big Red V would look like ?
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Gareth67, the only burgundy l like is Ron .................

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He has a better winning percentage than Mary...............

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Carlton

Juniors
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TruSaint said:
Yep,

His credentials are not poor either. He is a disciplinarian, which we need. Has taken the Broncos to one game of a GF ( with Lockyer missing ) losing to eventual premiers.

Win rate at Broncos 55%
At Penrith 58%
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I think he could do a job similar to Brian Smith, come into a mess, tread on some toes, sort it out. But, then find the credentialled long term coach to leverage off this work.
 
TruSaint

TruSaint

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Carlton said:
I think he could do a job similar to Brian Smith, come into a mess, tread on some toes, sort it out. But, then find the credentialled long term coach to leverage off this work.
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Honestly, I would give him 2 years.. with an option in our favour for the 3rd.
He can't be expected to sort out this mess and bring a new direction in less and I doubt he would accept less. Its a no-brainer compared to where we are now is it not ?
 
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