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Joel Monaghan quits Raiders over Twitter pic

Should he be banned from the game for life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 137 47.1%
  • No

    Votes: 154 52.9%

  • Total voters
    291
  • Poll closed .

Willow

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You totally missed the point of what I've being saying.
Then this...
chefman21 said:
Hell, you couldn't even see how $13 million dollars could have being better spent elsewhere
:lol: WTF are you going on about now?
chefman21 said:
I get the feeling that you barely think about issues outside of the code itself. If ever.
LOL!
chefman21 said:
Libraries are free to join.
Do they have shoes there?
chefman21 said:
Newspapers cost $1.50
ffs, do you think I'm made of money?

lol. dopey... you think that you know me. That's cute. And please don't hold back on the entertainment. We have a topic to discuss but your kiddie tantrums are handy for comic relief.
 

Fingerbang

Bench
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The big question is, will his gf or any other woman go down on him now? Especially without peanut butter smeared all over it.
 

wittyfan

Referee
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Where has this peanut butter thing come from??? Or is made-up??? You can't possibly tell from the pic.
 

Lambretta

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That's not quite right... If you want to compare crowd figures year to year, you have to look at the population as a whole, taking into account everything as a whole. Since immigrants make up a minority percentage of the population, they play a very small role in the figures.

True if you're considering the percentages to be similar

In 1995 the population of Australia was 18 million and the immigration intake was around 100,000 - or just under

In 2010 the population is at 20 million but the immigration level is over 200,000 per annum

So immigration has increased by 100% whilst the population has only increased by a significantly smaller percentage. Approximately 10%

But if you add accumalative figures, ie immigration over a 10 year period, baring in mind that many immigrants wont take up the local culture for some time, you can see that immigrants that have arrived in the past 15 years total around 1.5 million or more.

This has quite a net effect and shows increases in participation levels as being significant even if they are LOWER than population increases as a whole.

You have to take a longer term view of participation figures to get a true picture.
 
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Disgraced Raider Joel Monaghan will quit but hopes to return
DISGRACED star Joel Monaghan has quit the NRL to save the Canberra Raiders from any further embarrassment from his Mad Monday atrocity.

Monaghan will tomorrow inform the Raiders of his decision to walk away from the final two years of his contract to look for a fresh start in the English Super League.

More >

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-hopes-to-return/story-e6frexnr-1225948781638
 
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They are extremely public figures and like it or lump it kids look up to them which is the very defination of a role model.

errr, no it isn't.

That's a skewed outlook.

I'd be flabbergastged if my kids considered a Rugby League player to be their role model in life. Role Model in Football, sure, but for everything else... they're pretty low on the list.

If they dont like being a role model, they can don a shirt and tie or fluro vest like the rest of us.

Because they don't live up to your definition of a role model?

Until then they can stop sh*tting in motel rooms and letting dogs lick their wangs or deal with the consequences of disgracing the brand they represent.

It happens in all walks of life, not just Football. We seem to have this skewed view that because they play Football on our Teles once a week, they should be held to higher levels of moral decency than we hold ourselves?

If that picture was of a Doctor, would you expect his career to be over?

I'd certainly put any Doctor (except a Podiatrist) higher in the role model list than any Footballer.

And EA no one gives a f**k what you do, go and set your feet on fire for all we care, when you become a public figure playing a sport that tonnes of kids play then we might care.

You are the problem here. You and people of your ilk.

You set the standard for these blokes yet you shouldn't be allowed to set the standard for anyone who's life aspirations are Carny or below.

They did ask to be a role model because being a proffessional athlete is what they've chosen to do!

No, being a professional anything doesn't automatically come with a role model tag, yet we force it on people who are the some of the least equipped to deal with it.

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to hold these blokes up to higher standards than we hold ourselves.
 
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Talk about rose coloured glasses.

Ok.

Rose coloured glasses are basically standard glasses that have been tinted with colouring that is similar that which you'd find on a rose.

Like it or not the players are representatives of their club and the NRL even during the offseason. It doesn't matter if the players don't want to be role models.

Representative and role model are two different things.

If a player screws up then he should be punished. But let the punishment fit the crime.

We seem to want Monaghan to pay for everyone in Rugby League's sins.

He isn't Jesus Christ.

If you were identified with your employer the way NRL players are with the code and their individual clubs and your behavior at the bucks party you mention got out you would be sacked.

No, I wouldn't.

Most of the stuff I've seen over the years that would give Monaghan's faux pas a run for its money has happened whilst out with workmates.

The first job I ever had was with a major carton manufacturer, way back in 1976. Every Friday at their NSW HQ they had porn night which raised money for the social club. Thanks to them the first porn movie I ever saw (well, the first 3 minutes of porn I ever saw until I threw up) was one that involved a Dog (and chickens, pigs etc I was later told) and guess who was running the projector and sourced the films?

The Manager.

You mention players f**king up and understanding the ramifications of their actions. I am sure that all players are educated on the behavior expected of them by their clubs, the NRL and the sponsores. You can try to spin this anyway you want but their is no way in hell that Monaghan's behavior can be spun to make it seem ok to the clubs, the NRL or the sponsores. No amount of charity work will rebabilitate his image. He must be sacked.

We are all educated to understand that there are ramifications. Kick another kid in the arse at kindy and you sit in the corner for an hour. But we all f**k up once in a while. Even Mother Theresa was a complete arse at times.

He shouldn't be sacked.

No one is saying what he did was ok, acceptable or otherwise, by the way.

I'm far more outraged by blokes hitting women. My club has a half back who is alleged to have hit his girlfriend. If he did it and is found guilty I'd be more than happy to tell him myself that he'll never set foot on a field again.

Yet the thread about him would be lucky to hit 5 pages.

I'm far, far, far more outraged by that type of behaviour than I am by Monaghan's.

While I understand that other may have done worse that by no means makes his or their behavior any better. No organisation will part with millions of dollars in sponsorship or tv rights to be associated with a player involved in this.

You do know that John Hopoate played again don't you?

The furore will die off, the Footy season will start again and if he plays on the reminders for him will be there every time he runs out onto the field to a chorus of barking and growling. If he is allowed to play on, he'll suffer for it all for all the remainder of his playing days.

Do we really want to crucify this bloke?
 
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Its no longer 1972 where people communicate by land line telephone or letter and pen.

These days people are hired and fired based on what goes on the internet. Anonymous people who are nobodies. Yes it does happen.

Then when you take into consideration that he's a high profile professional sports person. Its really not comparable to bucks parties you attended more than 30 years ago.

These days if your dumb enough to let a dog suck your dick and have a bunch of your deadsh*t mates around with their cameras out then you deserve everything you get.

Like I already said, if everyone who did something stupid, sober or pissed, whist not working was sacked from their job, we'd all be on the dole.

Internet or no internet.
 
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With a name like yours and the numbers 666 branded there.. Honestly i dont expect you to much of a good parent anyhow.

I consider myself to be a reasonble parent. Well, none of my kids have your sense of morality (I know it'll offend me but damnit, I'm going to find it and look at it anyway), so that's a tick in that box.

I taught my kids to not be outraged if they chased something to look at that they knew was going to offend them. Did yours?

Get your phone ready, Superman 3 is about to be on the tele and don't they say "bum" in that movie?
 

Willow

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lol. Always funny when someone brings another poster's parenting skills into question. That comment says more about simostorm than anyone else.
 

simostorm

Bench
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I consider myself to be a reasonble parent. Well, none of my kids have your sense of morality (I know it'll offend me but damnit, I'm going to find it and look at it anyway), so that's a tick in that box.

I taught my kids to not be outraged if they chased something to look at that they knew was going to offend them. Did yours?

Get your phone ready, Superman 3 is about to be on the tele and don't they say "bum" in that movie?


:lol::lol::lol: feel the need to explain yourself did you?
 

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