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Joel's Reddy to quit

natheel

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This isn't Sks fault at all! We just don't have the cattle to play the style he wants us to play. Against dragons in 2nd half we defended alot better but our attack is lost! We don't have a half that can take the reigns when our forward pack is going forward!
 

born an eel

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This isn't Sks fault at all! We just don't have the cattle to play the style he wants us to play. Against dragons in 2nd half we defended alot better but our attack is lost! We don't have a half that can take the reigns when our forward pack is going forward!
did we defend better or did the saints attack go to sleep?

I think if we threatened to come back they would have turned it up a notch and we wouldn't have been able to go with them.
 

natheel

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I'd like to think the former and be positive mate :)

Either way it's painfully obvious we don't have the players to get the job done that sk asks to be done!

We need a

New half (buy)
New winger and centre (juniors)
At least a new 2nd rower

And we need answers on humble and Webb and not just sugar coated answers but the truth!
 

Cocidius

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Reddy is a solid first grade player on his day but with the current roster we have that just aint good enough. Obviously we need a strike center and it aint gonna come through a purchase....next best is developing the juniors.
Persist with Loko and Morgan...IMO at worst they will develop into solid first grade players too but with luck we might find a weapon. Something Reddy will never be....
 

Eels Dude

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This isn't Sks fault at all! We just don't have the cattle to play the style he wants us to play. Against dragons in 2nd half we defended alot better but our attack is lost! We don't have a half that can take the reigns when our forward pack is going forward!

Then adjust your style to the players you have available. That's what good coaches do. A la Bennett at the Dragons.
 

Joshuatheeel

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McGuire was tipped to do nothing this year, and has performed admirably. Webb only had one game but looked very good. Kids like Morgan and Loko have looked average because they have had to mark some of the best in the business and conversely have been given not enough early ball with space to do their thing. But Loko made 130 metres on debut against a side that belted us 30-odd to nil.

There is nowhere to go but up. I agree. But seems to me that Kearney has been able to get the message through to his players - at least partially. Look at the first 20 minutes of the Dogs game. We were all over them, and I dare say it was mostly because we were following the plan of dominating them up the middle. Then Hindy and Hayne did their things and we were behind the 8-ball for the rest of the game. But we looked good in those first 20 minutes. Ditto against the Dragons - we just didn't have the necessary class out wide to shut them down. But up the middle, we were winning the battle.

I feel Kearney has a decent platform from which to build his team around (that is, a decent forward pack that has mostly stood its own this year). As I said, the only way is up.

Well said mate, I posted in another thread that dragons had 5 internationals in their backline on ther week compared to our backline with a country rep. If the eels only replaced Robson for a half back llike Brett Seymour, kept Reddy and added a experience centre to our squad for next year, the side why not premiership contenders would improve dramatically. And that is only with two basic type players. We have the base for a good side.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Then adjust your style to the players you have available. That's what good coaches do. A la Bennett at the Dragons.

This is the best style for this bunch of players. Sad but true.

If we had better offloaders (Grothe, Inu, Mateo, Cayless) we could go back to off-the-cuff, and if we had better halves we could play with more variety.

With better outside backs we could go with more wide shifts.

But at the moment our strength is at front-row and fullback. That means up the guts for 5 and kick. And inside the 20 we shift it to Hayne.

There's no magic formula that will make us win more games. This is the best we can do until the roster improves.
 

Parra

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Then adjust your style to the players you have available. That's what good coaches do. A la Bennett at the Dragons.


Of course they do.

Look at what Rod Macqueen is achieving with a squad of players no-one else wanted at the Melbourne Rebels. And look at the calibre of players they can attract now. In their first year. There has been no excuses and talk of building. He has got on with the job. The team has copped floggings, but they bounce back and have achieved some great wins and quality results against top opposition.

Put it down to the Rebels employing a top coach. He has built a game plan that best suits the squad he has.
 

yy_cheng

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This is the best style for this bunch of players. Sad but true.

If we had better offloaders (Grothe, Inu, Mateo, Cayless) we could go back to off-the-cuff, and if we had better halves we could play with more variety.

With better outside backs we could go with more wide shifts.

But at the moment our strength is at front-row and fullback. That means up the guts for 5 and kick. And inside the 20 we shift it to Hayne.

There's no magic formula that will make us win more games. This is the best we can do until the roster improves.

We don't have to offload all the time. Hindy, Fui and Horo can offload but they are probably told not too. I think Webb can offload too from memory.

At least it adds something extra.

I am not saying everyone can or should be allowed to offload but a select few!
 

bartman

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And my comment was designed to illustrate that Kearney has indeed been able to lift some of the players to play well. We could also add Casey McGuire to that list.
McGuire would have gone well regardless of coach, imo.

Anyone that has followed his time in Super League knows his capabilities, and he's one astute (if older) off-season recruit, in a side lacking self-belief and leadership.
 

bartman

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Then adjust your style to the players you have available. That's what good coaches do. A la Bennett at the Dragons.
Agree. Since when is it a good thing for an unproven nrl-level coach to introduce a new attacking "structure" to a club when it seems like the playing staff might take several years to adjust to it?

Isn't it better to employ a coach whose structures can be adaptable, and who has the ability to get the best out of the player he has at his disposal - whatever "structure" is necessary? Add to that a coach that can successfully recruit (if this is indeed the coach's job and not teh footy CEO's), and we're missing out big time with SK at the moment. He's not seeming the coaching messiah that some at the club have been leading along some of us to believe....
 

Suitman

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Agree. Since when is it a good thing for an unproven nrl-level coach to introduce a new attacking "structure" to a club when it seems like the playing staff might take several years to adjust to it?

Isn't it better to employ a coach whose structures can be adaptable, and who has the ability to get the best out of the player he has at his disposal - whatever "structure" is necessary? Add to that a coach that can successfully recruit (if this is indeed the coach's job and not teh footy CEO's), and we're missing out big time with SK at the moment. He's not seeming the coaching messiah that some at the club have been leading along some of us to believe....

You are a coaching and management legend Bart.
I can't, for one minute, undertsand why the Eels didn't hire you instead?
So much experience and so many knowledgable answers. You'd have players on board left, right and centre. You'd have tactics to solve every issue. Obviously, with the support of your multitude of assistant coaches here.
Thousands of fans would be jumping on board to be members, and furthermore, if you had time, you'd be putting your name forward for both a position on the board and the CEO's position.
I can now see where we went sooooo wrong.

Suity
 

Swiftstylez

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You are a coaching and management legend Bart.
I can't, for one minute, undertsand why the Eels didn't hire you instead?
So much experience and so many knowledgable answers. You'd have players on board left, right and centre. You'd have tactics to solve every issue. Obviously, with the support of your multitude of assistant coaches here.
Thousands of fans would be jumping on board to be members, and furthermore, if you had time, you'd be putting your name forward for both a position on the board and the CEO's position.
I can now see where we went sooooo wrong.

Suity

I actually couldn't tell if that was sarcastic or not, then I remembered you aren't a very nice poster.
 

Poupou Escobar

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You are a coaching and management legend Bart.
I can't, for one minute, undertsand why the Eels didn't hire you instead?
So much experience and so many knowledgable answers. You'd have players on board left, right and centre. You'd have tactics to solve every issue. Obviously, with the support of your multitude of assistant coaches here.
Thousands of fans would be jumping on board to be members, and furthermore, if you had time, you'd be putting your name forward for both a position on the board and the CEO's position.
I can now see where we went sooooo wrong.

Suity

f**k dude. Harsh

bartman might be a f**king moron but he's only got the club's best interests at heart.
 

TheParraboy

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spartan2153

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Why? because I say what I think? And no one else does?

That's fine. I can live with that.

Suity

Lol u say what u think. Wow u r special. Most people say what they think just like Bartman and what do u do, you attack him for it then deliver that bull line u say what u think so that makes u precious. The minute someone posts on this forum its there opinion so that makes them just another opinion. Just like yours. So newsflash Ur no more right or wrong then anyone else on here.
So get off your high horse
 

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