Johns vs Thurston

[Pete Cash]

Not sure how much pingers would help. He would have given a lot of penalties away for holding on too long thinking he was having a hug

 

[umina panther]

And small amount of speed or coke could possibly help but no way mdma would help you

 

[God-King Dean]

If you were on MDMA you'd just end up trying to root every guy you tackle.

 

[Rod]

Lol at the idea of Joey doing what he did on the field having just taken a pinger :lol:.

 

[veggiepatch1959]

And small amount of speed or coke could possibly help but no way mdma would help you

You should have seen me on coke years ago. As lucid and coherent as hell but staggering around like I just downed five 700mL bottles of straight Jim Beam. Not good for performance.

Speed (and especially pseudoephedrine hydrochloride) makes your blood flow faster so it gets rid of toxins quicker. Those toxins occur after strenuous exercise and so you can perform at peak capacity for longer.

Back in the late 70s and 80s, we used to drop about 10 x 50mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride before we went surfing. We could surf without getting tired for over 8 hours a day. They were known as itchyheads and could be bought over the counter at any pharmacy for about $2.00 for 50 tablets.

When you came down, it felt like you were run over by a truck.

Any NRL player with this substance in their bloodstream would last 80 minutes (barring injury) and come off at full time as fresh as a daisy.

 

[Stranga]

Forget who took what drug or who was involved in questionable recreation activities at coffs, the question is who would you pick for a one off game, with both players at their very best.

Despite Thurston having a much, much more impressive in representative games, the answer has to be A.Johns.

 

[Canard]

Is the Dogs Fan that made up the Coffs Harbour rumour the same one that claimed that Aaron Payne and Thurston conspired with Ryan Tandy?

And claimed you could see both of them pointing to the sticks to take the two. Only slight flaw in this claim was that neither player was playing in the Tandy game.

 

[POPEYE]

I don't know what Johns needed to prepare himself even if it was just to calm his nerves but I do know that a bloke with a few schooners under his belt is much more formidable in a punch up . . . anything that's just enough to relegate fear but not interfere with performance is a wondrous thing

'Immortals' are an insult to the fabulous players that have entertained me over the years, Johns is no more or less meritorious than many many others I've seen

 

[madunit]

You think he was taking pingas before games? Lol.

I didn't say that

 

[madunit]

Johns is an immortal, Thurston will never be one.

A label handed down by a magazine with no official status tied to it. Some people put too much emphasis on that Immortals concept

 

[JJ]

A label handed down by a magazine with no official status tied to it. Some people put too much emphasis on that Immortals concept

Probably because until the named Johns it had a real exclusiveness about it - whether or not he warrants membership to that club, it was just too soon imo

 

[typicalfan]

It wasn't too soon. Johns deserved it anyway.

 

[JJ]

It wasn't too soon. Johns deserved it anyway.

More than Sterling, Provan, Meninga? Even his contemporary Lockyer - not saying he's not a great, not saying he doesn't deserve it, but the Sydney media really are fan boys

 

[DiegoNT]

My take on the immortals is that the players named are undoubtedly the best and most influential players of their eras. Some of these eras overlap but the way I see it Churchill was the standout of the 50s, raper and gasnier couldn't be split so they are the stand outs of the 60s, Langlands is late 60s early 70s, Fulton and beetson are the 70s, lewis the 80s ( due mainly to the rise of origin) and Johns in the post super league era. The eras left out are the 90s and probably Fittler is the player for that time, and the modern era which I think only lockyer truly stands above the rest.

 

[betcats]

More than Sterling, Provan, Meninga? Even his contemporary Lockyer - not saying he's not a great, not saying he doesn't deserve it, but the Sydney media really are fan boys

What do you mean by that? Provan and Sterling played in Sydney Joey didn't. Provan might deserve but he has missed out 3 times now, time to move on.

 

[JJ]

My take on the immortals is that the players named are undoubtedly the best and most influential players of their eras. Some of these eras overlap but the way I see it Churchill was the standout of the 50s, raper and gasnier couldn't be split so they are the stand outs of the 60s, Langlands is late 60s early 70s, Fulton and beetson are the 70s, lewis the 80s ( due mainly to the rise of origin) and Johns in the post super league era. The eras left out are the 90s and probably Fittler is the player for that time, and the modern era which I think only lockyer truly stands above the rest.

For sure, but the late 70s and 80s was the era where Australia started to completely and utterly dominate - for me to only have Wally from that era isn't right - so many truly great players - obviously I start with Sterling and Kenny, but so many others

Agree on the 90s - again Mal part of that era, but also Langer, Daley, Fittler, Clyde all truly great players - Glenn Lazarus too, no coincidence that premierships followed him

Guess for me the immortal notion is not right, I'd prefer a "Hall of Fame" - more players, but still exclusive

 

[JJ]

What do you mean by that? Provan and Sterling played in Sydney Joey didn't. Provan might deserve but he has missed out 3 times now, time to move on.

Just mean that for whatever reason, Johns really is flavour of the decade with the media - again, I am not saying he doesn't deserve it but I am not clear on why he is there ahead of some others

 

[betcats]

Just mean that for whatever reason, Johns really is flavour of the decade with the media - again, I am not saying he doesn't deserve it but I am not clear on why he is there ahead of some others

I know, I think Sterling should of gone in first but its just how people are. He was being called the best ever before he retired, I can see why he got the votes. But it had its flaws before that, when Guys like Provan and Ron Coote are missing out its obviously not perfect.

 

[POPEYE]

My take on the immortals is that the players named are undoubtedly the best and most influential players of their eras. Some of these eras overlap but the way I see it Churchill was the standout of the 50s, raper and gasnier couldn't be split so they are the stand outs of the 60s, Langlands is late 60s early 70s, Fulton and beetson are the 70s, lewis the 80s ( due mainly to the rise of origin) and Johns in the post super league era. The eras left out are the 90s and probably Fittler is the player for that time, and the modern era which I think only lockyer truly stands above the rest.

My take on the immortals is that a magazine was looking for a gimmick to usurp it's rivals, I've lived through the 70's and beyond touch wood and every decade had as many candidates as the era that includes Smith, Slater, Inglis, Lockyer, Thurston, Lazarus just to name a few off the top of my head.

Gimmickry is aimed at those who need imaginary friends or heroes to get through their day, construed by people who make a living from perpetuating such f**king nonsense. There is less mileage to be made from a band of heroes than there is from a single hero, any VC winner will tell you separating him from the rest is bullshit

 

[BranVan3000]

JT is a great player but he is closer to Sandow than Johns