"Josh has a contract with us until 2015".

[Loudstrat]

I love these convenient traditionalists who refuse to accept that contracts as they used to be are dead and buried. In most cases, they aren't worth the paper they're written on. In fact, they have been dead since Gordon Tallis sat out the year.

A contract in the NRL is like any other contract. If broken, the courts can award a penalty, if the transgressor is sued. On top of that, it is illegal to sign a contract with terms that in effect breaches an existing contract. In this case, the second contract is void.

Ben Barba,Ben Hannett,Justin Hodges there are more.

Gordon Tallis! aka (son of a truck scum merkin) bless him...

And Ben Ikin. And remember them getting GI's missus her dream job, which lasted only until GI found out that planes cant fly in the wet. :lol:

and if he had stopped her you'd be on here having a go at him for that instead

You'd know? It wouldnt be media fodder, so you wouldnt have any idea.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

2 questions...

When was the last time you genuinely competed for a premiership?

2011 - without Lockyer's cheekbone injury we were a genuine chance of beating Manly and going into the GF. We'd steamrolled into the finals and had put away the reigning premiers before missing Lockyer in the GF qualifier.

How long has it been since have gone this long without being genuine contenders?

'00 to 2006 was the last dry spell.

Proud of finishing 12th. Already settling for less.

By no means proud of finishing 12th. But certainly happy we didn't finish 13th.

 

[Kiwi]

2011 is a huge stretch, they got handled by the first contender they saw... but ill pay it because they were producing off a time of dominance, the last hurrah of a legend of the game

He's gone now and there doesnt appear to be another coming through... well not one the Broncos developed, just guys they induce to break contracts... you cant and wont get them all that way even if you get Milford/Barba, it's just delaying the inevitable, and frankly im not convinced those two even does that, i dont think they blend well as players, too similar, will result in freakish games where they both click and your unbeatable, followed by a spate of games like the ones Tigers fans w/Marshall have gotten used too, but i digress...

No one is arguing the Raiders didnt suffer a demise, they did, the results are there to see, it coincided with the Broncos general rise because we got a lot of talent out of QLD that the Broncos then monopolised... that is no longer the case fro the Broncos

The Broncos demise has absolutely nothing to do with the Canberra Raiders, the fact you want to make this a like for like case, tells me the rot is already begging to set in with Broncos fans... Can you imagine 6 years ago Broncos fans actively trying to compare themselves with year get in, year miss out top 8 team? :lol:

Its happening Kiwi, every club has a finger in the QLD talent pie, and your just not getting the quantity of quality you use to... And the return back to the pack has already well began.

Every club may have a finger in the QLD pie, which explains why we are seeing an influx of quality players wanting to return home at either a very young age or to finish their career. Players like Hodges, Hannant, Barba, Tallis, Milford, Cam Smith to name a few. Not all with be high profile, but it will keep happening, that's the risk clubs from outside QLD take when they sign QLD players.

As for the comparisons to the Raiders, well if someone wants to try and dig the boot in, I'm more than happy to show them how "great" their club has been at times, especially a club that was once in the same league as the Broncos on the field at their peak. I still think no matter who won, the greatest Grand Final never seen was a Broncos v Raiders of the early 90's.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

I always enjoy reading Raiders fans talk about powerhouse built on a "monopoly on QLD talent" when their very own 80's powerhouse was built around some of the best QLD players to ever lace up a boot.

Many clubs have had their fingers in the QLD pie for a long time.

 

[Raider_69]

No doubt. A shame it never eventuated. Would have been all time.

None the less the Broncos job is much harder than it used to be. You only need to look at my club - Josh Papalii, Anthony Milford, Luke Bateman, Patrick Mago, Edrick Lee, Benko Lee... those are 6 fairly significant talents plying their trade for other clubs. Just from the Raiders. Those guys are legitimate talents that the Broncos would love to have but dont. They might some back, Milford seems to be on his way. Lee's not so much, Bateman dreaming, Mago too. Papalii's already gone.

DCE, Inglis, Slater, Cronk, Smith, Thurston, Scott... another 7 for laughs.

20 years ago these guys were Broncos or Raiders, and if they werent broncos or Raiders they were nobodies, now everyone is taking their slice and there just isnt enough to go around to make the Broncos the power houses they used to be.

The dam has been tapped, by just about every club in the comp, and as a result the Broncos dont get their pick of these guys anymore, they have to take what they can get and roll the dice on convincing talent like Milford to return home... except not even elite talent has a Barba problem, or father with heart disease.

Unlike previously, you cant get them all. And that realisation is going to result is less success on paddock than the Broncos are used to. Can't stop, won't stop.

 

[Raider_69]

I always enjoy reading Raiders fans talk about powerhouse built on a "monopoly on QLD talent" when their very own 80's powerhouse was built around some of the best QLD players to ever lace up a boot.

Many clubs have had their fingers in the QLD pie for a long time.

Interesting you make this point, because in some ways its accurate, in others, way off the mark

the raiders did in fact build a powerhouse off it, then the broncos took charge and we inexplicably retreated, until recently when we've a gain started draining talent from the area... why we retreat? I dont know... why did we get back in?

Probably has something to do with clubs like the storm milking elite talent form the area and my club saying "How about me?!"

And now plenty are there... you say "Many clubs have had their fingers in the QLD pie for a long time." but you are burying your heads, and so is your club if you cant see the level of resources donated to this area is completely different from years prior

there is a reason the broncos spent millions establishing a HPC in Logan, because they know the dream is over and they are desperate to wrestle it back... too late. It's gone too far now, they'll get their peice, as will the raiders, storm, titans, cowboys, manly, and any other club who feels like it wants it.

Can't stop. Won't stop.

 

[Kiwi]

No doubt. A shame it never eventuated. Would have been all time.

None the less the Broncos job is much harder than it used to be. You only need to look at my club - Josh Papalii, Anthony Milford, Luke Bateman, Patrick Mago, Edrick Lee, Benko Lee... those are 6 fairly significant talents plying their trade for other clubs. Just from the Raiders. Those guys are legitimate talents that the Broncos would love to have but dont. They might some back, Milford seems to be on his way. Lee's not so much, Bateman dreaming, Mago too. Papalii's already gone.

DCE, Inglis, Slater, Cronk, Smith, Thurston, Scott... another 7 for laughs.

20 years ago these guys were Broncos or Raiders, and if they werent broncos or Raiders they were nobodies, now everyone is taking their slice and there just isnt enough to go around to make the Broncos the power houses they used to be.

The dam has been tapped, by just about every club in the comp, and as a result the Broncos dont get their pick of these guys anymore, they have to take what they can get and roll the dice on convincing talent like Milford to return home... except not even elite talent has a Barba problem, or father with heart disease.

Unlike previously, you cant get them all. And that realisation is going to result is less success on paddock than the Broncos are used to. Can't stop, won't stop.

Where the Broncos have an advantage in the long run is off field $$. One town team, Titans up the road will never compete in this department, and the Cowboys are far enough away to be no issue as well. Yes the Broncos can't get them all, I think though the biggest problem up until recently has been talent scout. We hadn't had a decent one since Cyril, that has been remedied, so will see how we go in the future.

 

[Iafeta]

Sadly, there are no pictures of the Broncos trophy cabinet available on the internet so all these butthurt people escape with their dignity, it seems.

Why would the Broncos post photos of an empty trophy cabinet?

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Why would the Broncos post photos of an empty trophy cabinet?

Go home Iafeta, you're drunk and confusing the Broncos for the Sharks.

 

[firechild]

Every club may have a finger in the QLD pie, which explains why we are seeing an influx of quality players wanting to return home at either a very young age or to finish their career. Players like Hodges, Hannant, Barba, Tallis, Milford, Cam Smith to name a few.

Smith is a greedy merkin who has always been chasing $$. Don't fool yourself into thinking his link to the Donkeys is anything more than a continuation of his past escapades with club accountants.

 

[dogslife]

It's got nothing to do with the Donkos as an organisation. Money talks. If the Donks weren't throwing it around like it was going out of fashion do yo think blokes would be lining up to have the chance to be coached by the likes of Anthony Griffin and Stephen Kearney?

 

[firechild]

20 years ago these guys were Broncos or Raiders, and if they werent broncos or Raiders they were nobodies, now everyone is taking their slice and there just isnt enough to go around to make the Broncos the power houses they used to be.

The dam has been tapped, by just about every club in the comp, and as a result the Broncos dont get their pick of these guys anymore, they have to take what they can get and roll the dice on convincing talent like Milford to return home... except not even elite talent has a Barba problem, or father with heart disease.

Unlike previously, you cant get them all. And that realisation is going to result is less success on paddock than the Broncos are used to. Can't stop, won't stop.

While I agree with the vast majority of what you're saying, it is a massive stretch to think that Canberra and Brisbane had a claim on all Queensland players. Manly had blokes like Vautin and Shearer, they also had Miles and Lewis signed up before a loophole in the agreement kept them in QLD. Manly were pioneers when it came to scouting for talent, we had plenty of players from QLD, NZ and England winning premierships before and after the period you're talking about.

 

[THE CHAMP]

These were the words I just heard uttered by Broncos Football Director Andrew Gee.

Needless to say I almost choked on SBWs manhood when I heard that line along with the rest of the interview regarding how he's in the Broncos plans and that's the end of it.

Surely that's a pisstake when you consider the Broncos complete and utter contempt for contracts. They wrote the book on being morally bankrupt and yet now ... after their dealings this year and ongoing underhanded shenanigans towards Milford they still have the nerve to trot out the "he has a contract" line!

Pot. Kettle. Broncos!

Are you aware that your star player walked out on a prior contract with another NRL club? If your club had any morals shouldnt they have refused to sign him. AAHH the Roosters the bought club.

 

[Tommy Smith]

SBWs Bulldogs contract was up when we signed him.

So go away and play with the traffic if you don't know what you're talking about.

9 of our Premiership winning team made their debut at the Roosters. 3 more in Guerra, JWH and Moa played less than 5 games between them at other clubs. And Mortimer was a reject that no-one else wanted.

The Roosters - the developed from within club.

 

[THE CHAMP]

Agreed. Relegate the Donkeys to the QLD Cup and put them on every Friday night in Queensland. They might even be good enough to make the finals in the QLD Cup.

With out the mighty Broncos your scum club would have no competition to play in.

 

[THE CHAMP]

SBWs Bulldogs contract was up when we signed him.

So go away and play with the traffic if you don't know what you're talking about.

9 of our Premiership winning team made their debut at the Roosters. 3 more in Guerra, JWH and Moa played less than 5 games between them at other clubs. And Mortimer was a reject that no-one else wanted.

The Roosters - the developed from within club.

9/17? Awesome stat

 

[dogslife]

SBWs Bulldogs contract was up when we signed him.

So go away and play with the traffic if you don't know what you're talking about.

9 of our Premiership winning team made their debut at the Roosters. 3 more in Guerra, JWH and Moa played less than 5 games between them at other clubs. And Mortimer was a reject that no-one else wanted.

The Roosters - the developed from within club.

Yeah there was definitely no golden handshake in place there :sarcasm:

 

[dogslife]

With out the mighty Broncos your scum club would have no competition to play in.

:lol: You've got nfi dribble dick

 

[THE CHAMP]

Why would the Broncos post photos of an empty trophy cabinet?

Haahahahahahhaha you took too much medication the day you posted this moron.

 

[THE CHAMP]

:lol: You've got nfi dribble dick

Okay pleb supporter of the true bought club.
The broncos are one of the few clubs that actually makes a profit.
The broadcasters love them. Thats the main source of revenue for your club. Without the Broncos the TV deal would be greatly reduced at a guess by 50%.
Cue the screams from the south. But its pretty accurate.