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Josh Hodgson

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Poupou Escobar said:
Three games off the bench in his NRL career. One in 2016, one in 2018 and one in 2021. I guess his form was good enough each time that he started again the following week. Or maybe he was carrying an injury in those games and that's one way to manage it.
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But starting doesn't necessarily mean the player plays more minutes than a benchie, right? So for your above claims to stick, you'd need to demonstrate when used as a starter he continued to play majority minutes to argue there wasn't a more sustainable demotion (in gametime) occurring.

I look forward to you producing game time stats to support your claims that he didn't get demoted (practically) at the Raiders beyond those three games - or admit that you're being purposely selective (and dishonest) with your use of shite stats again....
 
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the phantom menace said:
But starting doesn't necessarily mean the player plays more minutes than a benchie, right?
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Agreed
So for your above claims to stick, you'd need to demonstrate when used as a starter he continued to play majority minutes to argue there wasn't a more sustainable demotion (in gametime) occurring.
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Yeah probably. I'm not saying he wasn't demoted though, just that there is evidence against the claim that he was.
I look forward to you producing game time stats to support your claims that he didn't get demoted (practically) at the Raiders beyond those three games - or admit that you're being purposely selective (and dishonest) with your use of shite stats again....
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You're the one making the claim. Why don't you show us your evidence that he was demoted. I just had a look and of the three games he started on the bench, he still played the majority of minutes at hooker in two of them. In the third he only played 35 minutes but had just returned from 28 days off. In his next game he started and played 80 minutes, with Starling playing 23 minutes.

Now it's your turn to provide some evidence of your bullshit opinion.
 
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Plenty of teams would have very different points differentials at various stages of games. Commentators often point it out during the call.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
Plenty of teams would have very different points differentials at various stages of games. Commentators often point it out during the call.
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This would be okay except the points differential supports what is seen by most people when they watch games.

When Hands comes on we look and play better - it is obvious to most of the rugby league world except you

Even the coach knows this but for seemingly stubborn reasons he can’t admit his error in recruiting Hodgson
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
That’s because we bring him on when the opposition has fatigued and the game has opened up.
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He is a different style of hooker to Hodgson! Quicker around the field and laterally he is light years ahead. Actually his service is better which is a surprise as Hodgson is more experienced. His ability to back up long breaks makes a massive difference as Hodgson is often plodding away somewhere behind, the Simmonson try is an example of the difference.

Suggesting that Hands only looks good as there is a fatigue factor doesn’t relate really. Hodgson should not play in more than 20 minute spells! His defence and service falls away quickly from there, why he was still there after 50 minutes or so is tragic. Your eye test on that situation is almost a one off, don’t think many share your view.
 
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Delboy said:
He is a different style of hooker to Hodgson! Quicker around the field and laterally he is light years ahead. Actually his service is better which is a surprise as Hodgson is more experienced. His ability to back up long breaks makes a massive difference as Hodgson is often plodding away somewhere behind, the Simmonson try is an example of the difference.

Suggesting that Hands only looks good as there is a fatigue factor doesn’t relate really. Hodgson should not play in more than 20 minute spells! His defence and service falls away quickly from there, why he was still there after 50 minutes or so is tragic. Your eye test on that situation is almost a one off, don’t think many share your view.
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Pou is not relying on an eye test, as any eye test confirms Hodgson is done.

Pou is just arguing for the sake of being contrary.

There is little reasonable or logical opposition to Hands becoming our starting hooker and, depending on performance, an 80 minute option until a reasonable 14 can be found.

Not ideal, but a tired Hands has to be better than a crippled Hodgson
 
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Pou will flip-flop his strongly held position within 30mins of Brad Arthur taking a decision to give Hands the start/majority minutes over Hodgson.

(And find/invent some stats to support his new position too - while arguing that he always thought Hands deserved to get the nod in front of Hodgson....)
 
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