Kasiano nears QLD switch

[Tweed Titan]

I hope both sides stop picking Kiwis to be honest. Taking the piss at the concept surely.

 

[Tweed Titan]

This is just getting embarrassing for State of Choice.

And Mal Maninga still going after JT and Papili? Really?

So are you going to whine like a little bitch and troll Qld fans when they pick these players?

 

[Meth]

So funny (and predictable) to see Tonearm wanker try to use this to make a mockery of International Rugby League. No champ- Tamou and (hypothetically) Kasiano's selections make a mockery of State of 'Origin' before they make a mockery of the Australian national side. (Fien and Webb make a mockery of NZ's national side.)

 

[Meth]

If Kasiano is selected, it will only be for $$. Same as Tamou. It's a far cry from 1980.

 

[Meth]

If Kasiano is selected, it's no different from Tamou. The door has been opened. You made your bed.

 

[Meth]

I hope both sides stop picking Kiwis to be honest. Taking the piss at the concept surely.

Exactly.

Have some pride guys.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

It's not their Junior Clubs that are displayed. It's who they played Senior RL for.

If Kasiano were to play Origin his club displayed would be Aspley Devils, not Otahuhu Leopards. He played with them until high school, and then didn't play league again until he moved to Brisbane.

Then why did Tamou have Levin Knights\Whatever whack sydney club he played for during the Origin telecasts?

 

[Fast Eddie]

So are you going to whine like a little bitch and troll Qld fans when they pick these players?

Of course not, I'm obviously a massive QLD fan. I hope they win State of choice.

 

[Yosh]

Would love to see him in the sky blue... someone make it happen lol

 

[_addict]

I hope both sides stop picking Kiwis to be honest. Taking the piss at the concept surely.

I'm glad you posted this because it is one of the two questions I'd like to ask.

• What was the original point of origin?
• As Queenslanders and NSWmen do you feel that these types of selections devalue your respective colours?

 

[Mr Fourex]

So if they punt him the QLD selectors loyalty only last 3 weeks then ;-)

I wouldn't go putting on your party dress just yet......

Sam Kasiano ......puh-leeassse. :roll:

 

[Mr Fourex]

I'm glad you posted this because it is one of the two questions I'd like to ask.

• What was the original point of origin?
• As Queenslanders and NSWmen do you feel that these types of selections devalue your respective colours?

What was the original point of origin?

To prove years of NSW interstate dominace had been built on the back of QLD players and that QLD players wanted to wear the mighty maroon and rid themselves of the scummy blue sky rag they'd been forced to wear

As Queenslanders and NSWmen do you feel that these types of selections devalue your respective colours?

Yes.

 

[Shorty]

• As Queenslanders and NSWmen do you feel that these types of selections devalue your respective colours?

Yes of course it does.

Sticky for Tamou, approached him multiple times and I assume this is what Mal is doing as well - This shouldn't be allowed to happen, they should speak to a player once and that's it.
They're in these player's ears too much.

NZ needs to stiffen up, a letter of intent isn't good enough, they need a concrete alliance.
They need to do this when the player is still developing and hasn't had anyone in their ears.

Like I've said before, this isn't just Australia's fault, if a coach wants to win he wants to pick that best available players, if players can be made available....he will pick them.
NZ need to take responsibility for securing their men.

 

[ANTiLAG]

NZ needs to stiffen up, a letter of intent isn't good enough, they need a concrete alliance.
They need to do this when the player is still developing and hasn't had anyone in their ears.

Like I've said before, this isn't just Australia's fault, if a coach wants to win he wants to pick that best available players, if players can be made available....he will pick them.
NZ need to take responsibility for securing their men.

NZ cannot compete with Origin cash, thus in no way can secure their players. Tamou doesn't make the Kiwi test test team and a few games later he's in an Aussie jumper in line for big origin dollars. You're merely blame shifting. Many, many players will take the coin of origin.

Either the Origin selectors have enough pride not to select junior Kiwis, or many will jump ship for dosh. Simple as that. Cannot blame the players, they play for money. Tis their job. Professional sportsmen loyalty has typically always been for sale to the highest bidder.

But, in the future, when Queensland and NSW line up pre-match and do a haka, would be awesome!

 

[Mixmasterreece]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ligibility-rules/story-e6frexv9-1226399187264

Sam Kasiano and his worthless letters of intent pledging loyalty to New Zealand. Source: The Daily Telegraph



SAM Kasiano pledged his loyalty to New Zealand twice this year - and these are the twin documents that prove it.



Prior to April's Anzac Test, Kasiano signed an NZRL letter of intent after being selected in an extended Kiwis squad.
Then in late May he declared New Zealand as his "Country of Election" on a three-year contract extension with the Bulldogs.
Although his signature confirms both decrees, neither is worth the paper it's written on.


Under the game's convoluted and bewildering eligibility rules, the Auckland-born behemoth is not bound to his word until he pulls on a Kiwi jersey.Having missed the cut for this year's first Trans-Tasman fixture, that opportunity won't come again until October's end-of-season Test in Townsville.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...h-andrew-webster/story-e6frexnr-1226399092400

Which leaves Queensland - and consequently Australia - with one last opportunity to poach Kasiano by selecting him for Origin III in a week's time.Sources close to Kasiano last night said he would most likely accept a Maroons jersey, despite the fact his new Bulldogs contract is devoid of Origin bonuses.


Yet two months ago he wanted to play alongside Benji Marshall and do the haka.
As a result of the latest selection fiasco, New Zealand Rugby League bosses last night called on the NRL to overhaul the criteria and throw the Origin series open to Kiwis.
"If NSW and QLD are that desperate to win they should change the rules," Kiwis CEO Jim Doyle said. "Let our guys play in Origin but play for their country at the same time.
"Benji Marshall could play for Queensland because he went to Keebra Park State High in Queensland. Kieran Foran could play for NSW because he went to school in Sydney."It would also be a wonderful thing for international rugby league if Akuila Uate could play for NSW but also his home country of Fiji."


With Origin player payments set to rise to $50,000 a game when the new television deal is finalised, it's feared more Kiwi players will reject their Test jersey for the cash.
The Kasiano controversy is the latest Origin selection farce that threatens the future of international rugby league.


Earlier this year James Tamou did the same thing by turning his back on the Kiwis to play for Australia and NSW.


The new eligibility criteria Kasiano filled out in his new Bulldogs contract was devised in March to clean up the mess.
But the architect - NRL cap auditor Ian Schubert - inserted much of the new criteria to avoid a repeat of the Greg Inglis fiasco.


By leaving the door open for dual-eligible players such as Kasiano to backflip on international elections, a much more pressing dilemma has been left unaddressed.
Doyle will raise the issue at the next international board meeting, declaring: "The document Sam signed is not legally binding but it's all become very frustrating."
Maroons coach Mal Meninga recently approached Kasiano, who has been earmarked to replace Dave Taylor after his shocker in Origin II.
But Queensland legend Gorden Tallis last night said Kasiano should not be considered until he expressed a desire to play for Queensland.
"If they've got to be asked to wear the jersey, then I don't think they're right for the job," Tallis told Fox Sports.
"I would rather see him put his hand up."


Doyle added: "It's only two players (Tamou and Kasiano) but it could easily grow.
"A player like Josh Hoffman is another who could play for Queensland and the Kiwis.
"It would be a huge attraction for Sonny Bill Williams to come back to the game as well, knowing he could play in Origin and still play for his country."

 

[Mixmasterreece]

From Kasiano's twitter yesterday when asked if he'll play for the kiwis:

http://twitter.com/#!/sammyboii21990

http://twitter.com/#!/kimmy_kimbum

@kimmy_kimbum lol.havnt made my mind up yet

 

[ANTiLAG]

If you want to select them for Origin, then do so. But let them play for their nations. Or don't select them for origin at all. Seems simple to me.

 

[Snappy]

I wish he would just just piss off. I dont want someone in the Maroons that doesnt have passion for the Jersey. As a true Queenslander you ride the emotions of every Origin game, and feel the pain when they lose. He wouldnt have that passion and never will.

Piss off Kasiano. We dont want want you. You're not an Origin player.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Too late to be fussy Snappy. He's following a long proud line of Queenzlanders. Not to mention all the NSW'men.

Thorn, Carrol, Hunt, Smith...

You'll be lucky to have him.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Well said Snappy