Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Far Canal, Nov 13, 2011.
And the third one is picked out of position aswell.
"It's not like you can tell the difference anyway."
I'd go as far as to say that the Blues played with two central back-rowers and only one prop in games 2 and 3.
Gallen's game at front-row is no different to how he plays at lock - 80 minutes of non-stop brutal quality. The guy is an absolute freak.
I can tell the difference just fine. I just don't try and smear everything with positive spin. The last thing we need is more useless spin doctors. When something is good just say so. Same when it isn't. It is no big deal.
I'd go one further. I reckon we had 3 central backrowers and no props.
Is that a fact or your opinion?
Actually don't bother.
For most of games 2 and 3 you're right.
8. Mannah 40 mins
10. Gallen 80 mins
14. Merrin 12 mins
28 minutes without a genuine front-rower on the field
8. Mannah 20 mins
10. Gallen 80 mins
20. Galloway 9 mins
51 minutes with no front-rowers
Backrowers are clearly the future. I'm glad we were ahead of the trend and had some laying out in the centres last year!
I actually thought it was pretty innovative of Stuart. It certainly worked in game 2, and I doubt we would have won game 3 if we'd gone with the standard 4 x 40 minute prop rotation.
As for back-rowers in the centres, it's certainly a last resort. The first thing you want from a centre is one-on-one defence out wide, so it was a good move to defend Hayne at left centre in place of Horo. But even Jarryd got burned a few times (like both games vs the Tigers).
I believe Chris Hicks defended at left centre in round 26.
Not forgetting the Kiwis don't have a recognised 7 since both Marshall & Foran are 6's.
Both 2nd receivers.
You're right that neither are traditional halfbacks - Benji plays on the left of split halves at the Tigers and Foran mostly played on the left of split halves at Manly right up until about mid-season, when DCE was shifted to the middle.
But the Kiwis are themselves at least ostensibly playing with split halves, which means you don't really need an old-style organising halfback. You just need a couple of playmakers that can also kick.
New Zealand's problem this tournament was the same problem the Tigers have when they're under pressure - Benji gets more involved than he needs to be and ruins the shape of the attack.
Benji is best when he finds himself in one-on-one situations, but there just isn't as much opportunity at first receiver. That's why split halves works so well for teams using a lot of long shifts - look at the Broncos and the Dragons. Neither team has a dominant, organising halfback (arguably Lockyer), but both teams get plenty of ball to their halves (both 6 and 7) at second receiver.
This is how Benji plays best at the Tigers. But sometimes he gets it in his head that he has to win the game himself. Instead of being selective about his touches, he just chases the ball around the field overcalling people (like Hayne last year) and losing touch with Foran (and with Lui at club level). Plus he's never content to just catch-pass to the other half, which is exactly what needs to be done in a split-halves system. The ball needs to move away from him for a couple of tackles before it can come back to him in some space.
You just can't do everything from first receiver, and Benji needs to trust his halves partner to get him early ball at the right times.
Dear Pou Pou,
Sometimes, I just think you have too much time on your hands.
Other times, like mostly, I just like reading what you write.
I guess I do have too much time on my hands, at least this year. Next year I'll be a lot busier.
Also helps that now that footy season's over, my favourite waste of time is this forum.
We came 14th. That is a fact.
Maybe you need a new emoicon to express yourself.
Now what's your opinion regarding this fact? In your opinion, how do you reckon we'll go next year? How about the year after? Do you have an opinion on that?
Good luck with the parole board mate.
Things can only get better.
Glad you are starting to see the light.
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