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bartman

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Whatever, I couldn't be f'ed looking it up before posting :roll:.

I still say there were none of our four first choice props on the field between the 40th minute and until after South scored. Prove me wrong...?
 

strider

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Whatever, I couldn't be f'ed looking it up before posting :roll:.

I still say there were none of our four first choice props on the field between the 40th minute and until after South scored. Prove me wrong...?

yes - just had a look - fui went off at 34th minute, replaced by paulo - none of the regular props were there until mannah came on 49th minute for tautai
 

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Whatever, I couldn't be f'ed looking it up before posting :roll:.

I still say there were none of our four first choice props on the field between the 40th minute and until after South scored. Prove me wrong...?

You said this?

Based on my observation at the game The timings when Poore, Moimoi, Mannah and Allgood were all on the bench from at least half time until after the first SOuths try of the second half (about 50th minute?).

Mate, if you want to make claims about coaching shitness, just have a bit more evidence than this, which is wrong anyway. Credibility shot.
OMC got it right. You just make shit up.
Lingard, WOE, OMC even though they don't want Kearney as coach, don't just talk shite to back their arguments.



Suity
 

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no team makes a sub at half time cos everyone gets a rest - so there is no point wasting an interchange on players who will get their breath back - so whoever is on at halftime will get another 10-15 mins into the 2nd half

tautai is in the team as a prop - hindy is a trundler .... we are effectively playing 5 props + hindy when tautai is in the team

its interesting .... everyone claims shack never gets a run cos he is now a prop - yet tautai gets a run, as a prop ..... i think shack at least has a right to have a chance over tautai who offers not much ... shack is getting shafted cos of what he did, fullstop end of story
 

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no team makes a sub at half time cos everyone gets a rest - so there is no point wasting an interchange on players who will get their breath back - so whoever is on at halftime will get another 10-15 mins into the 2nd half

tautai is in the team as a prop - hindy is a trundler .... we are effectively playing 5 props + hindy when tautai is in the team

its interesting .... everyone claims shack never gets a run cos he is now a prop - yet tautai gets a run, as a prop ..... i think shack at least has a right to have a chance over tautai who offers not much ... shack is getting shafted cos of what he did, fullstop end of story

No arguments there.

Suity
 

Casper The Ghost

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The comment was in response to our lack of go forward, and specifically mentioned the four "recognised" props in our 17 - as opposed to the partimers who might fill in that position (Hindy, Tautai).

Based on my observation at the game (don't have it to review on Fox etc) The timings when Poore, Moimoi, Mannah and Allgood were all on the bench from at least half time until after the first SOuths try of the second half (about 50th minute?).

Regardless of how he's attempting to use an additional two second rowers in a six-man prop rotation, to not have even one of your four first choice props on the field at a crucial time for go forward is abysmal tactics imo. Most other teams/coaches can get by with a very simple four man prop rotation, and so could we - but Kearney tries to over complicate things, the players seem confused on the field, and the whole thing backfires.


Bullshit. The problem with you (and several others here) is that you pay more attention to a poster's name than the content they've posted, and get carried away with your own generalisations about the poster and start off with personal comments like the above rather than having the intelligent discussion. The reactions from some would be very different if I posted the same points under a different forum name, but I digress.


And/or a coach that drill it into the team during training each week. What the f do they spend their time doing the other four days of their working weeks - it sure as hell looks like they aren't training together or getting any structures or tactics right for gamedays?

Barty, you're in danger of making too much sense all the time on this forum.
This is extremely unhealthy behaviour for this forum.
Please reconsider. :D
 

IFR33K

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no team makes a sub at half time cos everyone gets a rest - so there is no point wasting an interchange on players who will get their breath back - so whoever is on at halftime will get another 10-15 mins into the 2nd half

tautai is in the team as a prop - hindy is a trundler .... we are effectively playing 5 props + hindy when tautai is in the team

its interesting .... everyone claims shack never gets a run cos he is now a prop - yet tautai gets a run, as a prop ..... i think shack at least has a right to have a chance over tautai who offers not much ... shack is getting shafted cos of what he did, fullstop end of story

Agree there, except Hindy obviously isn't a prop, and tautai isn't a props asshole.
 

Casper The Ghost

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LOL. Nope.

Souths didn't score in the 50th minute.

Suity

Barty said "about 50th minute?".
Going by Poo Poo standards, you can use "about with ?" to stretch 7 minutes back to the 43rd minute Suity.
Barty is being honest and sincere.
All thanks going to Poo Poo.
 
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strider

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Barty said "around the 50th minute".
You can use around to stretch 7 minutes back to the 43rd minute Suity.
Barty is being honest and sincere.

actually it depends how u ready bart's post - "... until after the souths try (about the 50th minute)" .... the 50th minute was after souths try

;-) :lol:
 

Casper The Ghost

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Does that mean hayne and hoppa will be spending a heap of time on the bench #-o#-o#-o
No, it means they are revolutionising Rugby League.
As props and from anywhere on the field, they will be the Eels most dangerous strike weapons. No more need for fast backs. All backs are now plodders.
 

Suitman

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actually it depends how u ready bart's post - "... until after the souths try (about the 50th minute)" .... the 50th minute was after souths try

;-) :lol:

LOL.

If Bart wasn't such a righteous nong, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

Suity
 

Casper The Ghost

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actually it depends how u ready bart's post - "... until after the souths try (about the 50th minute)" .... the 50th minute was after souths try

;-) :lol:

:lol: I think we can all thank Poo Poo for the inspiring shift in consciousness we've now all experienced.
Basically anything goes whenever, however by whoever.
This Poo Poo light of consciousness is called "White Noise".
 

oldmancraigy

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yes - just had a look - fui went off at 34th minute, replaced by paulo - none of the regular props were there until mannah came on 49th minute for tautai

The problem with this is the simplicity of the assumption!

Tautai is a PROP. He hasn't played backrow yet for us. He comes on and plays limited minutes as a prop.

You might question why on earth we have a 5th 'specialty prop' in the lineup? Good question, however that doesn't make him not a prop.

And Hindy has been in the front row rotation "on and off" since round 4. So from the 34th to 49th minutes Hindy and Tautai were our prop forwards. Example: Gallen in OriginII. Just because he started at lock doesn't mean he didn't play minutes at prop.


We might well question the sanity of having 6 props in the 17 man squad ESPECIALLY when prop has been our strongest position all season. And rightly so - but we cannot say we didn't have props on the field. We had 6 in the squad so it was IMPOSSIBLE not to have 2 on the park.
 

oldmancraigy

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no team makes a sub at half time cos everyone gets a rest - so there is no point wasting an interchange on players who will get their breath back - so whoever is on at halftime will get another 10-15 mins into the 2nd half

tautai is in the team as a prop - hindy is a trundler .... we are effectively playing 5 props + hindy when tautai is in the team

its interesting .... everyone claims shack never gets a run cos he is now a prop - yet tautai gets a run, as a prop ..... i think shack at least has a right to have a chance over tautai who offers not much ... shack is getting shafted cos of what he did, fullstop end of story

To be honest, I wouldn't pick Shack for a possible 15 minute stint at prop.

If I was picking him in the squad it would be for 30+ minutes of footy. Tautai has genetic advantages over Shack (ie, he's 10kgs heavier and much stronger). And Tautai is much 'rougher'. But Shack can hold the ball.

Tough one - but if I was picking someone to be the 5th or 6th prop in the squad, I'd opt for TT over shack just because TT gives you that something 'different'.

Shack ought to be weighed against Poore/ Allgood or Mannah for a spot. That's his go, a 30-40 minute worker.
 

IFR33K

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The problem with this is the simplicity of the assumption!

Tautai is a PROP. He hasn't played backrow yet for us. He comes on and plays limited minutes as a prop.

You might question why on earth we have a 5th 'specialty prop' in the lineup? Good question, however that doesn't make him not a prop.

And Hindy has been in the front row rotation "on and off" since round 4. So from the 34th to 49th minutes Hindy and Tautai were our prop forwards. Example: Gallen in OriginII. Just because he started at lock doesn't mean he didn't play minutes at prop.


We might well question the sanity of having 6 props in the 17 man squad ESPECIALLY when prop has been our strongest position all season. And rightly so - but we cannot say we didn't have props on the field. We had 6 in the squad so it was IMPOSSIBLE not to have 2 on the park.

Mate, you can play tautai and Hindy in the halves, but they ain't halves. Tautai may be a quality prop in nsw cup, but the simple truth is he ain't a props asshole in nrl. A fringe player at best.

Having all four genuine props on the bench at one time is ludicrous. But nothing surprises me with super coach.
 

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