Keep Mary

[Alec's-saints]

You must be deaf, he has said he had the team he wanted last year.
Didn't hear any complaints about the squad when he stood at the top of the ladder in 2016 / 2017
Even if he didn't have the team he wanted to go from 1st to 9th and to lose to all the shit teams was appalling and it was the same roster that led the comp that fell out of the race for the finals.
You guys love being April / May premiers which in the wash up counts for absolutely zip on GF day.

we lost our captain for 6 weeks. honestly what do you expect? mcrone is a shit cnt and didn't know how to close out tight games without widdop. ben hunt would have closed them games out last year. correct me if I'm wrong.. i don't agree with anything you say

 

[Crush]

Oh my , here we go again . What will the posts be like come Monday , good or bad ?

Mate, the posts will be both good and bad win lose or draw on Sunday.
I cant see OV saying well done Mary if we win and I cant see Ales's Saints saying sack Mary if we lose.

 

[Alec's-saints]

Mate, the posts will be both good and bad win lose or draw on Sunday.
I cant see OV saying well done Mary if we win and I cant see Ales's Saints saying sack Mary if we lose.

i can say top of the table though.

 

[Old Timer]

we lost our captain for 6 weeks. honestly what do you expect? mcrone is a shit cnt and didn't know how to close out tight games without widdop. ben hunt would have closed them games out last year. correct me if I'm wrong.. i don't agree with anything you say

Cowboys lost their co captains and made the GF.

 

[Alec's-saints]

Cowboys lost their co captains and made the GF.

because morgan is streets ahead of mcrone. what are you going on about bro?

 

[Old Timer]

because morgan is streets ahead of mcrone. what are you going on about bro?

Your best mate kept Mc Crone in the side as he did with Lafai the year before despite the increasing number of bad results.
We may have lost Widdop for 6 rounds but we still lost plenty of games to absolute shit teams when he came back.
Not as if he was gone for the entire season.
There are no reasonable excuses for our 2nd half failure last year and until we put that behind us this year there is no proof that we are in fact better albeit there are some encouraging signs but you would have to be stupid to not see there are some similarities and things to be concerned about despite running 1st.

 

[Alec's-saints]

Your best mate kept Mc Crone in the side as he did with Lafai the year before despite the increasing number of bad results.
We may have lost Widdop for 6 rounds but we still lost plenty of games to absolute shit teams when he came back.
Not as if he was gone for the entire season.
There are no reasonable excuses for our 2nd half failure last year and until we put that behind us this year there is no proof that we are in fact better albeit there are some encouraging signs but you would have to be stupid to not see there are some similarities and things to be concerned about despite running 1st.

mate you do make some valid points. but we're a different beast this year, signing a half like hunt is a massive upgrade on mcrone. all im saying is we have the sqaud and most importantly our spine is on fire, our fowards look super hungry this year. maybe has a lot to do with Graham? i don't agree with mary at times and I'm sure others don't either, but i will give mary the benefit of the doubt on this occasion. players are playing for him. my main concern is injuries.

 

[hazzbeen]

Your best mate kept Mc Crone in the side as he did with Lafai the year before despite the increasing number of bad results.
We may have lost Widdop for 6 rounds but we still lost plenty of games to absolute shit teams when he came back.
Not as if he was gone for the entire season.
There are no reasonable excuses for our 2nd half failure last year and until we put that behind us this year there is no proof that we are in fact better albeit there are some encouraging signs but you would have to be stupid to not see there are some similarities and things to be concerned about despite running 1st.

I'm with you on this , yes the signs are good but there is still a lot of footy to be played . In the back of my mind I keep asking my self can we play any better or will teams improve and we again have peaked too early . I hope we continue to dominate teams and the past is but behind us...... Win on Sunday will be a big step forward .

 

[Old Timer]

mate you do make some valid points. but we're a different beast this year, signing a half like hunt is a massive upgrade on mcrone. all im saying is we have the sqaud and most importantly our spine is on fire, our fowards look super hungry this year. maybe has a lot to do with Graham? i don't agree with mary at times and I'm sure others don't either, but i will give mary the benefit of the doubt on this occasion. players are playing for him. my main concern is injuries.

The major difference is you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt whereas myself, OV and others are not willing to do that as he had the benefit of the doubt for 3 years and failed to deliver.
Therefore, he has to get past that point of failing before I am willing to make any allowances.
In saying that if you have a team that can lead the comp for a 1/3rd of it giving a pass mark for making the eight doesn't cut it either as a fall below top 4 from 1st is a monumental failure.
Some people value going from 9th to 8th as an achievement without looking at the significance of the fall from 1st to 8th or 9th.
So let's all enjoy the wins but keep the support for the coach down to a very dull roar until he has in fact proved hat he can coach well for an entire season and not just part of it.

 

[Alec's-saints]

The major difference is you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt whereas myself, OV and others are not willing to do that as he had the benefit of the doubt for 3 years and failed to deliver.
Therefore, he has to get past that point of failing before I am willing to make any allowances.
In saying that if you have a team that can lead the comp for a 1/3rd of it giving a pass mark for making the eight doesn't cut it either as a fall below top 4 from 1st is a monumental failure.
Some people value going from 9th to 8th as an achievement without looking at the significance of the fall from 1st to 8th or 9th.
So let's all enjoy the wins but keep the support for the coach down to a very dull roar until he has in fact proved hat he can coach well for an entire season and not just part of it.

I'm loving the ride mate. its been a rough 7 years, if mary does lead us to premiership #17 i hope you forgive him for all the mistakes he has made.

 

[Crush]

The major difference is you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt whereas myself, OV and others are not willing to do that as he had the benefit of the doubt for 3 years and failed to deliver.
Therefore, he has to get past that point of failing before I am willing to make any allowances.
In saying that if you have a team that can lead the comp for a 1/3rd of it giving a pass mark for making the eight doesn't cut it either as a fall below top 4 from 1st is a monumental failure.
Some people value going from 9th to 8th as an achievement without looking at the significance of the fall from 1st to 8th or 9th.
So let's all enjoy the wins but keep the support for the coach down to a very dull roar until he has in fact proved hat he can coach well for an entire season and not just part of it.

It sounds like you are happy to move the goalposts one way but not the other. If we drop out of the top 4 after leading the comp at the 1/3 mark you call it a monumental failure.
If we were to be losing our first 8 weeks yet string together a bunch of wins late in the season to finish say 6th would that be a monumental achievement?

 

[hazzbeen]

I'm loving the ride mate. its been a rough 7 years, if mary does lead us to premiership #17 i hope you forgive him for all the mistakes he has made.

Let's hope he proves me wrong , as long as we go deep into the comp , I might start to believe in Marys coaching , but let's face it he has had long enough to prove himself ..... Go you Dragons ....

 

[SBD82]

The major difference is you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt whereas myself, OV and others are not willing to do that as he had the benefit of the doubt for 3 years and failed to deliver.
Therefore, he has to get past that point of failing before I am willing to make any allowances.
In saying that if you have a team that can lead the comp for a 1/3rd of it giving a pass mark for making the eight doesn't cut it either as a fall below top 4 from 1st is a monumental failure.
Some people value going from 9th to 8th as an achievement without looking at the significance of the fall from 1st to 8th or 9th.
So let's all enjoy the wins but keep the support for the coach down to a very dull roar until he has in fact proved hat he can coach well for an entire season and not just part of it.

Good post. I don't agree with everything but they're valid points.

If we lost three quarters of our squad to injuries I wouldn't consider slipping from the top 4 and making the 8 a monumental failure. Other than that, or something equally catastrophic, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that starting strong and falling apart later is a failure, and given the last few seasons, it would also be very clearly shown to be a trend, not an anomaly.

(I really like when your posts aren't full of McFookknuckles.)

 

[Old Timer]

It sounds like you are happy to move the goalposts one way but not the other. If we drop out of the top 4 after leading the comp at the 1/3 mark you call it a monumental failure.
If we were to be losing our first 8 weeks yet string together a bunch of wins late in the season to finish say 6th would that be a monumental achievement?

How do you work out I am moving the goal posts one way but not the other IMO you seem to not understand the intention of the post
People are chest beating because of where we currently are which is 1st and willing to somewhat ignore people who say we have been here before and monumentally failed and that is a plain and simple fact
Now you ask me if we failed early and then came home late would that be an achievement well of course it would as it would clearly demonstrate we improved over the entire season and found ourselves going into the finals on a high.
In that scenario it is an unequivocal fact that the playing group and coaching staff more than adequately adapted to the challenge ahead
The last 3 seasons we adapted early to meet the challenges of a new season but we failed to adapt as the year went on and other teams in fact passed us on the ladder on the road to the semis as they did in fact adapt adapt and became a better performing team than us at the business end of the season.
Not sure how that can be explained any clearer.

 

[Old Timer]

Good post. I don't agree with everything but they're valid points.

If we lost three quarters of our squad to injuries I wouldn't consider slipping from the top 4 and making the 8 a monumental failure. Other than that, or something equally catastrophic, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that starting strong and falling apart later is a failure, and given the last few seasons, it would also be very clearly shown to be a trend, not an anomaly.

(I really like when your posts aren't full of McFookknuckles.)

 

[Old Timer]

SBD82
There are 3 things that can actually eventuate out of this season in respect of my posts

1. I will be calling him coach as he will have earned it (really can’t cop Mary)
2. You will be also finding a new nickname for him as you will not be able to hide in the “give him another chance” camp.
3. I will be upgrading from calling him “you know who” and that will make “you know who” look like a compliment.

In the meantime “on with the motley” and hopefully for once the opera has a happy ending.

 

[giboz71]

I know it’s a results based game but I also look at how well drilled sides are.

If anyone caught the cripple fight which was the Dogs/Broncos game last night, I’d be asking some serious questions about how these sides are being coached. And yes, I mean Wayne Bennett also.

The Dogs are just woeful but seriously there are some questionable players playing for the Broncos right now. Boyd looks completely disinterested, and Bird ended up getting hooked. Why has the coach not got these guys playing to a requied level?

I look at our guys and each of the 17 guys are firing on all cylinders with most in career best form. Hence there is all this talk about us being decimated for Origin.

So if getting guys to perform is a key KPI, Mary would be pretty high up on the list right now compared to most coaches.

 

[Dragons 09]

and Bird ended up getting hooked.

Geez he was poor wasn't he! Looks like he has lost his mojo big time. Reminds me of an unfit kid being made to do something he's not interested in rather than doing something he loves doing. Could be some homesickness involved by the look of his attitude, he just doesn't seem to want to be there.

 

[Overseas dragon]

we will be without our origin players for one game. no big deal

the other 2 games possibly if any injuries only a few days after

 

[Frank Facer]

Geez he was poor wasn't he! Looks like he has lost his mojo big time. Reminds me of an unfit kid being made to do something he's not interested in rather than doing something he loves doing. Could be some homesickness involved by the look of his attitude, he just doesn't seem to want to be there.

There is an article on Foxsports saying that Brissy players have got a $20 a day McDonalds gift voucher and that Bird is making the most of that voucher, so much so that his team mates are calling him Burgie, instead of Birdie.

I wouldn't have thought that any NRL clubs would want their players eating a lot of McDonalds. I don't think anyone should be eating a lot of McDonalds. I try to avoid McDonalds.