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Knight Russell Packer jailed for two years

Loudstrat

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In many countries in the world being disrespectful can and does get people killed. As you can imagine social courtesy and respect are displayed in ample quantities. I've found in those countries there is generally speaking very little violence, however when it does occur someone generally dies.

Have a read back through this thread, you will notice that as soon as I wrote an opinion there were those people who disagree willing to aggressively attack in a personal way.This very action pretty much sums up and answers the question of why there is an increasing violent under tone in Australian society. My point has been made with your assistance- I thank you. There is an ever increasing lack of humility and respect in Australian society -long gone are the days of my grandparents. I remember them well and I remember the respect shown towards others. A huge contrast on so many levels to what you find today.

Now carry on with your drivel and diatribe
Courtesy and respect - does that involve pinching smokes off chicks?

Stop whinging about "violence" in Australia if you are happy with societies that treat "disrespect" with murder.

Now f*k off and dream of living in Columbia.
 

Canard

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Firstly - Are you serious ? really? perhaps its best you stay where you are. I dare say a high percentage of people with your level of ignorance become a statistical fatality when traveling. But I'm guessing your joking right ?

Secondly - The guy Packer smashed wasnt bashed half to death

In many countries in the world being disrespectful can and does get people killed. As you can imagine social courtesy and respect are displayed in ample quantities. I've found in those countries there is generally speaking very little violence, however when it does occur someone generally dies.

Have a read back through this thread, you will notice that as soon as I wrote an opinion there were those people who disagree willing to aggressively attack in a personal way.This very action pretty much sums up and answers the question of why there is an increasing violent under tone in Australian society. My point has been made with your assistance- I thank you. There is an ever increasing lack of humility and respect in Australian society -long gone are the days of my grandparents. I remember them well and I remember the respect shown towards others. A huge contrast on so many levels to what you find today.

Now carry on with your drivel and diatribe

"Sometimes, you just gotta knock someone out for being disrespectful"

"By calling me a dickhead for saying this, your the one who condones violence"
 

nick87

Coach
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Knights Vision is amazing. I wish i was half as tough as he is.
Going to head down to the pub later and see if someone can beat some respect into me.
 

Knight Vision

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Courtesy and respect - does that involve pinching smokes off chicks?

Stop whinging about "violence" in Australia if you are happy with societies that treat "disrespect" with murder.

Now f*k off and dream of living in Columbia.
You are a little f**ktard aren't you ? I'de love to see you speak to someone like that to their face . You would be a candidate for a hiding. Studies show there is a high chance of you being anything but what you sound. Are you a fat overweight teenager frustrated and jerking off to the lingerie section of the Kmart flyers in your mailbox ?

Has anybody actually met this rude aggressive prick in real life ? There is one comforting fact I do know about life?.that is to be so sad and aggressive , even in a virtual world such as the internet is a true reflection of what you are ??and my guess is ur rather sad and angry ??.and that makes me smile. :D
 

magpie4ever

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You are a little f**ktard aren't you ? I'de love to see you speak to someone like that to their face . You would be a candidate for a hiding. Studies show there is a high chance of you being anything but what you sound. Are you a fat overweight teenager frustrated and jerking off to the lingerie section of the Kmart flyers in your mailbox ?

Has anybody actually met this rude aggressive prick in real life ? There is one comforting fact I do know about life?.that is to be so sad and aggressive , even in a virtual world such as the internet is a true reflection of what you are ??and my guess is ur rather sad and angry ??.and that makes me smile. :D

I would suggest you are about 30 plus years too late, but; back in the late 70s or early 80s I sure you are not too far off the mark.
 

Canard

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Im concerned about the fact that Taxpayer dollars are going into studies of teens jerking off.

This is an outrage.
 

soc123_au

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I am concerned that anyone would think it is wrong to rub one out into the lingerie section of the K-Mart catalog. What is wrong with you people?
 

magpie4ever

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I am concerned that anyone would think it is wrong to rub one out into the lingerie section of the K-Mart catalog. What is wrong with you people?

That or the old Playboys or Penthouses when the girls were au naturale (maps of tassie).
 
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SPORTING DECLARATION: Questionable logic By ROBERT DILLON Jan. 17, 2014, 10:30 p.m.
Matthew Gidley and Wayne Bennett Matthew Gidley and Wayne Bennett
WAS it something I said? Or do I need to change my brand of deodorant?

As the dust settles on the Russell Packer affair, Sporting Declaration has been feeling a tad self-conscious this week after requests for an interview with Knights officials were declined, albeit politely.

Newcastle CEO Matt Gidley was willing to discuss the Packer issue on radio and TV, but when the Herald approached the club to share his thoughts we received a text message, which read: ‘‘The club informed members as well as the general community about the decision and process on Monday.

‘‘The matter was also discussed at length with a number of media outlets and the club has no further comment.’’

So there.

This columnist has been around long enough to recognise when I’m copping the Basil Brush. I’m kind of perceptive like that.

Anyway, no skin off my nose.

But really there was only one question I wanted to ask the Knights: ‘‘When Russell Packer arrived at Downing Centre Local Court to face his moment of truth, were you still entertaining thoughts that one day he would be able to play for the club?’’

It was a question I did not hear asked in Gidley’s television or radio interviews.

A single-word answer would have sufficed.

Yes or no. True or false.

That’s all I was after.

In the absence of any official response from the powers-that-be, I’m going to take a wild, speculative stab in the dark and say the answer to that question would have been ‘‘yes’’.

And with that one-word answer, the waters that have been so muddied in the past week would have been crystal clear.

If indeed the Knights were hoping, and actually planning, for Packer to make a comeback after a period of penance and rehabilitation, all these other arguments become irrelevant.

There would have been no need to debate ‘‘legal process’’, ‘‘duty of care’’ and ‘‘visitation rights’’, because Knights fans would have realised exactly where the club stood – staunchly in support of a player who had committed a vicious crime.

That one-word answer would have put everything in context.

Forget the logistics of waiting to tell Packer his contract had been terminated after he was jailed for two years. Focus on what went down before he had appeared in court.

Packer had bashed a man unconscious and continued to punch him and stomp on his head while he lay motionless, leaving him badly injured.

The Knights were aware this was not in dispute. They knew he would plead guilty.

The moment they learned this they faced a moral dilemma. This was a cut-and-dried case of bringing the club into disrepute, warranting instant dismissal.

Instead it seems their fingers were crossed that he would receive a non-custodial sentence and return to the field after being deregistered by the NRL for a year or perhaps even less.

They did not view this as a sackable offence until after Packer was sent to the big house, at which point he was obviously going to struggle to attend training.

In other words, in trying to explain their actions this week, the Knights have been laying claim to high moral ground, but their rationale has been full of holes.

The theory that the Knights were ‘‘always’’ going to sack Packer is a complete furphy.

If that was the case, why didn’t they punt him back in early December when they learned the full details of his awful crime?

The logical conclusion is that they believed eventually he would be cleared to wear the red-and-blue jersey.

Gidley has denied any double standards, but the likes of Marvin Filipo last year and Ian Lacey, John Te Reo, Neville Costigan and Brett Seymour (during Wayne Bennett’s time in Brisbane) would presumably beg to differ.

Bennett apparently insists on sacking players face to face. Yet he had ample opportunity in the weeks before Packer fronted the court.

Gidley said on radio this week that ‘‘the great tragedy’’ of this whole affair was that Packer did not get to join the club and realise his potential.

Perhaps it has not dawned on Knights officials, but they should be relieved.

Magistrate Greg Grogin did them a favour.

By jailing Packer, he left the club with no option other than to tear up his contract, so the controversy was comparatively short-lived.

Had Packer been handed a suspended sentence and/or community service last week, and allowed to stay on Newcastle’s pay roll, this tawdry episode would have festered indefinitely.

It may well have been that in a year’s time, Packer was preparing to make his Newcastle debut.

But who would have cheered for him?

Given that a ‘‘sack Packer’’ petition attracted more than 30,000 signatories in the space of two days this week, it is not hard to imagine it would soon have topped six figures.

For some inexplicable reason, this overwhelming public backlash appears to have surprised Knights management.

What were they thinking?

I guess that is another question they won’t be answering any time soon.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2030692/sporting-declaration-questionable-logic/?cs=2185
 

El Diablo

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who cares?

an AFL player was found guilty of GBH just recently and has not been sacked yet there is no media outrage

he hasn't even been deregistered
 

Loudstrat

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You are a little f**ktard aren't you ?
Wrong. I am an average sized f*cktard
I'de love to see you speak to someone like that to their face .
But thats why we have internet, so that people like me can chat to someone well travelled like you. Beats the old ham radio days.
You would be a candidate for a hiding.
Only if you are a violent genius - but we knew that already.
Studies show there is a high chance of you being anything but what you sound.
Studies - what f*cking studies you twat?
Are you a fat overweight teenager frustrated and jerking off to the lingerie section of the Kmart flyers in your mailbox ?
As opposed to a fat underweight teenager? I dont have KMart in my area, never knew they had a lingerie section - obviously you did - which is quite revealing.

Basically, you have been a violence loving twat on this forum, and you've been called out, and cant handle it. Now you have a fantasy about me being a teenage Tinkler. I hope you have no access to young girls or kittens.
Has anybody actually met this rude aggressive prick in real life ?
Yeah, my wife, kids, neighbours, friends, etc.....
There is one comforting fact I do know about life?.that is to be so sad and aggressive , even in a virtual world such as the internet is a true reflection of what you are
Well you are well and truly f*cked then.

I find it funny that someone who condones mindless violence gets so aggressive on the internet. Yet you bring the aggression on yourself because you started it
??and my guess is ur rather sad and angry ??.and that makes me smile. :D
So you troll the internet, find people and insert some lame fantasy about their personality to make you smile?

It must be lonely in your cell Fudge. But not as lonely as your head.
 

magpie4ever

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Wrong. I am an average sized f*cktard
But thats why we have internet, so that people like me can chat to someone well travelled like you. Beats the old ham radio days. Only if you are a violent genius - but we knew that already. Studies - what f*cking studies you twat? As opposed to a fat underweight teenager? I dont have KMart in my area, never knew they had a lingerie section - obviously you did - which is quite revealing.

Basically, you have been a violence loving twat on this forum, and you've been called out, and cant handle it. Now you have a fantasy about me being a teenage Tinkler. I hope you have no access to young girls or kittens. Yeah, my wife, kids, neighbours, friends, etc..... Well you are well and truly f*cked then.

I find it funny that someone who condones mindless violence gets so aggressive on the internet. Yet you bring the aggression on yourself because you started it
So you troll the internet, find people and insert some lame fantasy about their personality to make you smile?

It must be lonely in your cell Fudge. But not as lonely as your head.

Tell me old buddy, given there was no Kmart in your area; what did you jack off too?

Target, Big W or Best & Less catalogue.
 

MrAnonymous

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ok ok you have been sticking your hand up for some time now wanting a reply so you can feel part of the group, happy now Mr Anonymous? feel good about yourself ? fantastic now run along.:sarcasm:
:lol::lol:
Kinda like you have to troll a forum to get some attention, you lonely miserable merkin.
 

mozza91

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Christ Dillon is a douche. With the amount of anti Rugby League agenda fuelled drivel he writes he should get a job at the Telegraph.
 

thorson1987

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You are a little f**ktard aren't you ? I'de love to see you speak to someone like that to their face . You would be a candidate for a hiding. Studies show there is a high chance of you being anything but what you sound. Are you a fat overweight teenager frustrated and jerking off to the lingerie section of the Kmart flyers in your mailbox ?

Has anybody actually met this rude aggressive prick in real life ? There is one comforting fact I do know about life?.that is to be so sad and aggressive , even in a virtual world such as the internet is a true reflection of what you are ??and my guess is ur rather sad and angry ??.and that makes me smile. :D

hF870994D
 
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