Knight Russell Packer jailed for two years

[Loudstrat]

If I met him I'd gladly give him two smokes to prevent him stomping on my head. I dunno how many smokes I'd have to give to protect my arse though.

 

[The Phelan Folly]

who cares?

an AFL player was found guilty of GBH just recently and has not been sacked yet there is no media outrage

he hasn't even been deregistered

That's a serious accusation.

Do you have a link?

 

[El Diablo]

That's a serious accusation.

Do you have a link?

sure dickhead

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...orthbridge-fight/story-fnhocxo3-1226786150811

stick it up your clacker

 

[Snappy]

Christ Dillon is a douche. With the amount of anti Rugby League agenda fuelled drivel he writes he should get a job at the Telegraph.

His summary is exactly what most people have been thinking about the whole episode, except blinkered Knights fans that is.

 

[The Phelan Folly]

sure dickhead

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...orthbridge-fight/story-fnhocxo3-1226786150811

stick it up your clacker

Just as well. Posting unsubstantiated allegations is a serious issue. Policing the posting of
unsubstantiated allegations even more so.

Sperm breath.

 

[El Diablo]

it wasn't unsubstantiated you moron

the link has already been posted before

 

[El Diablo]

here's another for you http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-16/date-set-for-football-player-in-court/5203550

 

[Pierced Soul]

Knight Vision is clearly a troll. Why bother replying to him? He's probably just some 13 year old nerd with no friends, with nothing to do on the school holidays except make himself feel like a big man on the internet. I bought into it at first, but when new information has come to light he has ignored it.

:lol::lol:
Kinda like you have to troll a forum to get some attention, you lonely miserable merkin.

i dont think he's a troll, i think he's a just a moron who tries to act tough instead of addressing anything people have brought up.

the funniest part is the blatant contradictions he has in attacking other people for being internet tough guys when he's doing the exact same thing :crazy:

knight vision - dig up

 

[The Elephant In The room]

who cares?

an AFL player was found guilty of GBH just recently and has not been sacked yet there is no media outrage

he hasn't even been deregistered

I'm surprised his team is sticking by him as he's already had a string of issues (fitness and attitude, not violence), bu the two incidents are hardly comparable.

Yes, he fractured a guys jaw after a 10 second fight, but he didn't knock the guy unconscious, continue punching him, and then stomp on his head.

Look at it another way, you wouldn't compare a guy blowing 0.05 in a breath test with a guy blowing 0.22 and running down a pedestrian, and say they should be treated the same way.

 

[El Diablo]

they were both found guilty of GBH yet you think they're not comparable :crazy:

the AFL incident seems premeditated too if you read the article

 

[The Elephant In The room]

they were both found guilty of GBH yet you think they're not comparable :crazy:

the AFL incident seems premeditated too if you read the article

No I don't think they are comparable at all. Do you think they should have gotten the same sentence?

Face it, you're more concerned about your perceived bias between how an NRL player has been treated compared to an AFL player.

 

[El Diablo]

then you are an idiot

both guilty of the exact same thing

GBH

 

[The Elephant In The room]

then you are an idiot

both guilty of the exact same thing

GBH

Actually I believe Packer was found guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm, as opposed to GBH, but I'm no lawyer so I don't know the distinctions between the two.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2...atement-on-russell-packers-two-year-sentence/

But if we stick with GBH, the sentencing options for GBH in NSW range from a section 10 (Assault proven but dismissed), to a jail sentence of 10 years, as far as I am aware. So if every GBH conviction is the same, why the range of sentencing options? That's right because not all cases are the same, and the actions of the thugs in both cases are different in any number of ways.

 

[El Diablo]

Actually I believe Packer was found guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm, as opposed to GBH, but I'm no lawyer so I don't know the distinctions between the two.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-18/i-felt-scared

WEST Coast will stand by troubled midfielder Murray Newman after the 20-year-old was found guilty of assault occasioning bodily harm in the Perth District Court on Wednesday.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-18/i-felt-scared

You mentioned GBH, not me. We wouldn't go in circles if you could get your facts straight in the first place.

But much like GBH, as far as I know the sentencing options for Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm in NSW range from a Section 10, to 5 years jail (2 years jail if sentenced in a Local Court like Packer was).

So the Law is happy to distinguish between "levels" or "seriousness" of the offence knows as Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm, but for some reason you don't want to. You'd prefer to lump everyone in together.

Keep in mind that Newman was sentenced in WA, not NSW, so the sentencing options are probably different again.

 

[El Diablo]

they're the same thing

why you defend cop bashers and this other wanker is a bit of a mystery

something tells me you're not all there

 

[ek999]

Actual bodily harm and grievous bodily harm are different charges. Grievous bodily harm being the more serious of the two

The NSW Court of Criminal Appeal in McIntyre v R [2009] NSWCCA 305 conveniently summarised “actual bodily harm”:

“…it is something less than “grievous bodily harm”, which requires really serious physical injury, and “wounding”, which requires breaking of the skin… The distinction between grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm involves an assessment of the degree of harm done, with one being more serious than the other…Bruises and scratches to a victim are typical examples of injuries that are capable of amounting to actual bodily harm… If a victim has been injured psychologically in a very serious way, going beyond merely transient emotions, feelings and states of mind, that would likely amount to actual bodily harm”.

http://www.streetoncriminallawyers....lence/assault-occasioning-actual-bodily-harm/

 

[The Elephant In The room]

they're the same thing

why you defend cop bashers and this other wanker is a bit of a mystery

something tells me you're not all there

You obviously failed comprehension at school. You can be charged with Assault and be sentenced to 2 years jail, or you can be charged with Assault and walk away with a section 10 (Assault proven but dismissed). And why is this the case? Because crimes falling under the same name can have vastly different levels of seriousness. Everyone seems to recognize this fact except for you.

And you keep throwing this out this line, and you know full well that I never said such a thing. But if it makes your small mind happy, carry on.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Actual bodily harm and grievous bodily harm are different charges. Grievous bodily harm being the more serious of the two

http://www.streetoncriminallawyers....lence/assault-occasioning-actual-bodily-harm/

In that case, I can't believe Packer was only charged with Actual Bodily harm. Although given he plead guilty, you might guess that it may have been a "compromise" between the prosecution and Packers lawyers. Guaranteed conviction v's battling through court, etc.

 

[El Diablo]

Actual bodily harm and grievous bodily harm are different charges. Grievous bodily harm being the more serious of the two

http://www.streetoncriminallawyers....lence/assault-occasioning-actual-bodily-harm/

seems you are right

eg http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/co...s-assault-charge/story-e6freuy9-1226587815879

Williams had previously denied the charge of assault occasioning bodily harm, and had been due in court this month to set a trial date.

But in Albany Magistrates Court today, police said they were upgrading the charge to grievous bodily harm after further assessment of medical reports into the injuries.