Knights V Dragons Match Discussion

[Karmawave]

And you're not un-biased? ;-)

Not when I sit here and say I wouldn't mind if we were winning games with Dureau at halfback.

How could I be more unbiased?

 

[CJG 182]

It's more the fact prior to Rogers you went out of your way to bag Dureau at any stretch you could.
Apparently Luke Walsh is better. How's he doing these days?

Now that you have someone new to follow around in the anti Dureau campaign, Rogers is suddenly the best option.

You say you give them a fair go etc but not once have you ever really given Scott a chance, instead coming up with hilarious nicknames.

Nearly every time we lost last year somehow it was Scott's fault in your eyes. Now when we lose can it be Rogers fault, surely not, that doesn't suit repetitive agendas now does it?

 

[Jobdog]

Not when I sit here and say I wouldn't mind if we were winning games with Dureau at halfback.

How could I be more unbiased?

I don't think you actually believe that. You're non-stop rants about him being a "supersub" (which, granted, have slightly subsided) give me that idea.

 

[Jobdog]

It's more the fact prior to Rogers you went out of your way to bag Dureau at any stretch you could.
Apparently Luke Walsh is better. How's he doing these days?

Now that you have someone new to follow around in the anti Dureau campaign, Rogers is suddenly the best option.

You say you give them a fair go etc but not once have you ever really given Scott a chance, instead coming up with hilarious nicknames.

Nearly every time we lost last year somehow it was Scott's fault in your eyes. Now when we lose can it be Rogers fault, surely not, that doesn't suit repetitive agendas now does it?

No! It doesn't work like that! Only Dureau is capable of losing games. Apparently Rogers is like the second coming of christ :shock:

 

[Karmawave]

He is a Supersub though.

He is an ordinary first grade rugby league player, and a stop gap option until hopefully someone better comes along.

And so is Ben Rogers.

And so is/was Luke Walsh.

They're all garbage when you compare them to who is playing around the rest of the NRL.

 

[CJG 182]

Sandow has been missing more tackles than just about our whole team combined this season and looks awful in attack.

Orford... well it's embarrassing he won the best player in the comp last year.

Robson? Bahahahahahaha

As much as I'm a genuine fan of Barrett the sharks halves deadset couldn't organise a fight a in a bulldogs crowd.

Thurston & Lockyer have been playing like absolute busted's this year.

Herbert. If he is a first grade halfback then Scott Dureau is a love child of Wally Lewis, Andrew Johns and Peter Sterling.

The halves this year all round have been sub par except Kimmorley and Scott Prince.

 

[Apey]

Then why do you fap on over Rogers?

Because he is slightly less of a stop gap option? Lol.

 

[otori]

Damn I made a comment about Rogers then logged off and 11 pages later it's still going on. In my defence, I did bag out Lulia as well when he came in leaving Sailor unmarked. To clarify, I don't think Rogers deserved the three points for MOM. Maybe the one but really he did nothing in the first half and the good stuff in the second half was counterbalanced by the strange options. Conversely, Sau had a blinder and Soward dominated both teams in the first half. I actually do think Rogers is the better option than Dureau at the moment but that doesn't mean I think he's good or did enough to warrant MOM.

 

[Alex28]

Sorry...the error count was up to but not including this round. How the NRL can't update the stats on the own website is beyond me.

However my point still counts - McManus makes more errors than Ben. Gidley makes just as many. Why aren't we bagging them just as much?

 

[Big Tim]

Karma, I honestly believe you read these forums the way you want to read them. The reason people want Dureau in the team, against certain opposition is simple:

5/8 Mullen > Rogers > Dureau

Halfback Dureau > Mullen > Rogers

I know the argument you will come back with is "Mullen is being looked at as NSW halfback" and honestly that says more about the quality on NSW #7's than it does about how good a 7 Mullo is.

If Mullo was a terrible halfback we wouldnt be having this conversation, and Walsh would most likely be wearing the 7, but Mullo does a good job for us. I believe that he is a star for us at 5/8.

We understand that both Dureau and Rogers are stop-gap halves, I just think that our best look is with Mullo at 5/8.

 

[mozza91]

Can't we just be happy Chris Bailey is no longer our 5/8

 

[Joker's Wild]

Sorry...the error count was up to but not including this round. How the NRL can't update the stats on the own website is beyond me.

However my point still counts - McManus makes more errors than Ben. Gidley makes just as many. Why aren't we bagging them just as much?

Simple really mate. The errors that those two make are eclipsed by all the very good things that they do both in attack and defence, especially in the case of Gids.

Rogers barely manages to cancel out his crap with his good most of the time

 

[Frederick]

Can't we just be happy Chris Bailey is no longer our 5/8

f**k oath

 

[Alex28]

Simple really mate. The errors that those two make are eclipsed by all the very good things that they do both in attack and defence, especially in the case of Gids.

Rogers barely manages to cancel out his crap with his good most of the time

So it's good enough for Gids, but not good enough for Rogers...

I would suggest we would not have beaten Manly, Warriors or the Dragons with Dureau at 7 and Rogers not playing. That is with Mullen and Gidley in the team.

I get frustrated with Rogers as much as anyone. The reality is that we are stuck with a very good fullback, 5/8 and hooker but we don't have a decent halfback. If we have to live with a stop gap measure at this stage I'll go with Rogers over Dureau - Rogers will win us a game, Dureau won't.

 

[Alex28]

5/8 Mullen > Rogers > Dureau

Halfback Dureau > Mullen > Rogers

I know the argument you will come back with is "Mullen is being looked at as NSW halfback" and honestly that says more about the quality on NSW #7's than it does about how good a 7 Mullo is.

Sorry Tim. The right answer is:

5/8 - Mullen > No One Else (unless he is injured)
Halfback - Rogers > Dureau > Never Ever Mullen

Two players that should never be played out of position are Gidley and Mullen. Surely we have learnt this already?

As I have said already, we have enough thinkers and planners in the squad in Mullen and Gidley. We need a doer. Someone who is prepared to back himself and have a go. Rogers is not perfect at it - he'll pull some stuff off and he'll make some mistakes. But at least he's prepared to back himself and have a go. Can't say that I've seen that in Dureau yet...

 

[BG]

Karma, I honestly believe you read these forums the way you want to read them. The reason people want Dureau in the team, against certain opposition is simple:

5/8 Mullen > Rogers > Dureau

Halfback Dureau > Mullen > Rogers

I know the argument you will come back with is "Mullen is being looked at as NSW halfback" and honestly that says more about the quality on NSW #7's than it does about how good a 7 Mullo is.

If Mullo was a terrible halfback we wouldnt be having this conversation, and Walsh would most likely be wearing the 7, but Mullo does a good job for us. I believe that he is a star for us at 5/8.

We understand that both Dureau and Rogers are stop-gap halves, I just think that our best look is with Mullo at 5/8.

One is a border-line first grader, the other is a SOO candidate in the position. Just because the #6 might suit Mullo best doesn't mean he isn't a better halfback than Dureau. Are you seriously suggesting that if you had Wally Lewis as your 5/8th and Mullo and Dureau in your squad, Mullo would miss out?

 

[BG]

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[Whats Doing]

The fact is you play your best 17 and slot the players in positions in the best way fit. At this stage Rogers and Mullo is playing better than Dureau and Mullo

 

[Serc]

Well its been quite the Karma slaughterfest in here today! I have to say this though - no matter how many times you say you're happy to see us winning with whatever players are selected, its hard to undo the fact that you were onto the scent of that incorrect error count like a heatseeking missile!

For the record, the 'correct' error tally for yesterday was McManus with 2, and Mad Dog, Houston, De Gois, Paterson, Taufua, and Lulia with 1 each. Not sure how they come up with those figures either but anyway there it is...

The mad dog try was all mullen. my grandmother could have hit that gap.

I was too chicken to say it at the time as I didn't want to inflame the situation...but yes I agree there!

PS: Try not to plagiarise my posts keeney...







just kidding

 

[BG]

If Rogers' break was all Mullen, then Taia's try against Manly and more emphatically his long break downfield on the next set were all Rogers. Fact is both the passer and the ball runner deserve kudos in these instances. Rogers positioned himself well, timed his run perfectly and shrugged off a couple of defenders. Taia was good in running into the holes Rogers set up for him also.