Knock-on Effect NSW Cup - Eels Team

[hindy111]

good to hear about Rodwell, he seems to have gone backwards since his couple of runs in the NRL

He is not NRL level. Ok if desperate for a bench spot but that's all

 

[JokerEel]

Rodwell had a massive game. JJBM was strong in attack. Asi defended and kicked well. We might've found the next Jake Arthur.

Is this based on stats?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Is this based on stats?

It's the only way to know how hard some merkin worked over the 80 minutes. While watching the game the only thing we notice are the big plays. It's not a reliable representation of the game as a whole, especially individual contributions.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well for some of us the only thing they'd notice is big plays. I get the sense that over-reliance on stats makes someone's "game eye" for what individual contributions they actually might notice become quite lazy...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well for some of us the only thing they'd notice is big plays. I get the sense that over-reliance on stats makes someone's "game eye" for what individual contributions they actually might notice become quite lazy...

Not at all. I watch the game for entertainment, just like you. I look at the stats during and afterwards to see what I missed.

 

[JokerEel]

It's the only way to know how hard some merkin worked over the 80 minutes. While watching the game the only thing we notice are the big plays. It's not a reliable representation of the game as a whole, especially individual contributions.

No if you really watch a player you can see how hard they work.

Stats don't show the overall player.

 

[hindy111]

Well for some of us the only thing they'd notice is big plays. I get the sense that over-reliance on stats makes someone's "game eye" for what individual contributions they actually might notice become quite lazy...

Stats don't show clutch plays or big moments. Someone may chalk up 5 x TAs against a side that gives up cause they are being flogged. It isn't worth the same as one in a big game at a crucial time with scores close. Moses try the other nights a great example. Scores or not we had the game one just by holding the ball for 5 tackles. Cowboys knew it amd had their heads down.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No if you really watch a player you can see how hard they work.

Why would you ‘really watch’ an individual player? You’ll miss the rest of the game ffs. They’re not your kid.

Stats don't show the overall player.

Nobody ever said they did. And afterwards stats are often the only evidence we have to support a position. Do you think the coaches care about stats?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Stats don't show clutch plays or big moments. Someone may chalk up 5 x TAs against a side that gives up cause they are being flogged.

The stats show all this stuff.

 

[T.S Quint]

The stats show all this stuff.

Pretty much.
Stats would show the time a try is scored, who gave the assist and what the score was at the time.

 

[the phantom menace]

Not at all. I watch the game for entertainment, just like you. I look at the stats during and afterwards to see what I missed.

Personally I'd watch a replay to see what I missed...

 

[the phantom menace]

"Without context, a piece of information is just a dot."

"Without context, data is simply so much noise."

"Data, on its own, is meaningless."

 

[parra pete]

Rodwell had a massive game. JJBM was strong in attack. Asi defended and kicked well. We might've found the next Jake Arthur.

As in "the new scapegoat"?

 

[hineyrulz]

As in "the new scapegoat"?

Nah that was Tim Smith…..

 

[parra pete]

Nah that was Tim Smith…..

Get up with the times...he was a looooooooong time ago..Before Brad Arthur....

 

[hineyrulz]

Get up with the times...he was a looooooooong time ago..Before Brad Arthur....

So scapegoats were fine back then???

 

[parra pete]

Seems so..you have followed on with the tradition....

 

[hineyrulz]

Seems so..you have followed on with the tradition....

I learned from the best!!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Personally I'd watch a replay to see what I missed...

If you didn’t see it the first time why would you see it the second time? Are you really going to be able to tell the difference between some merkin making 20 tackles in 30 minutes one week and 25 tackles in 50 minutes another week? It’s a rhetorical question, because you’ve already shown you don’t notice things like that. Probably nobody does, which is why coaches (and footy nerds) track statistics during games.

 

[parra pete]

I learned from the best!!

I drank from the breast....