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Latrell Mitchell

Dragon David

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So, not so "limited"?

The Club certainly does have a history of diversity, and this is supported by the players who have pulled on a Saints jersey since 1921. But this is not necessarily 'our' culture as you put it. You'll find it in many places.

Still can't see why you think Latrell wouldn't fit into this culture or way of life - it is diverse as you say and by definition open to all. Precisely why wouldn't he fit in?
Because of his attitude.
 

Willow

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Because of his attitude.
lol. That's not much of a clarification. I only asked because you seemed to be contradicting yourself.

I get it, you have your reasons for disliking Latrell Mitchell and aren't that keen to elaborate further. That's OK, I'll just draw my own conclusions.

IMO, it was pretty idiotic of Mitchell and Addo-Carr to break the rules and then post it on social media.

However, I have no reason to doubt their apology and that they were looking out for family going through a hard time. Yes, they showed poor judgement but let's not get too judgemental in return.

I'm still a little curious as to what you mean by "our culture".
 

TruSaint

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lol. That's not much of a clarification. I only asked because you seemed to be contradicting yourself.

I get it, you have your reasons for disliking Latrell Mitchell and aren't that keen to elaborate further. That's OK, I'll just draw my own conclusions.

IMO, it was pretty idiotic of Mitchell and Addo-Carr to break the rules and then post it on social media.

However, I have no reason to doubt their apology and that they were looking out for family going through a hard time. Yes, they showed poor judgement but let's not get too judgemental in return.

I'm still a little curious as to what you mean by "our culture".

In JAC's case it was his 3rd breach.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...e/news-story/77c0ebd0df2aad601ca7a339a0d05eeb
 

Dragon David

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lol. That's not much of a clarification. I only asked because you seemed to be contradicting yourself.

I get it, you have your reasons for disliking Latrell Mitchell and aren't that keen to elaborate further. That's OK, I'll just draw my own conclusions.

IMO, it was pretty idiotic of Mitchell and Addo-Carr to break the rules and then post it on social media.

However, I have no reason to doubt their apology and that they were looking out for family going through a hard time. Yes, they showed poor judgement but let's not get too judgemental in return.

I'm still a little curious as to what you mean by "our culture".
Don't get me wrong, I have no gripe with Mitchell. He is a great player when he wants to put his mind to playing footy. His attitude is a me thing in my opinion and somehow I don't think he would slot in with our team of players let alone with the coaching personnel we have. I think this is one of the reasons that the Roosters were happy to see him leave the club.
 

TruSaint

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From your link:

NRL star Josh Addo-Carr was reportedly warned twice in 11 days for violating COVID-19 rules before he was busted going on a camping trip...

If that's the case, what punishment do you think should be handed out?

Im ok with what they just did, although the match ban seems light.

Addo-Carr and Mitchell have both been slapped with $50,000 fines, 60 percent of which will be suspended along with one match bans that were suspended for the remainder of the season.


Roberts-Davis and Cleary were both handed $10,000 fines with 60 percent of that amount suspended. They were both handed one-match bans that were suspended.

NRL Acting Chief Executive Andrew Abdo said the sanctions handed to the players were much heavier than the fines given to members of the public.

"The sanctions proposed today are stronger than fines which can be imposed by authorities because we hold our players to a higher standard and they must set a higher standard for the community,'' he said.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-andrew-abdo/23af9237-a514-46b5-9f64-0b3af1dd4742
 

Walpole

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lol. That's not much of a clarification. I only asked because you seemed to be contradicting yourself.

I get it, you have your reasons for disliking Latrell Mitchell and aren't that keen to elaborate further. That's OK, I'll just draw my own conclusions.

IMO, it was pretty idiotic of Mitchell and Addo-Carr to break the rules and then post it on social media.

However, I have no reason to doubt their apology and that they were looking out for family going through a hard time. Yes, they showed poor judgement but let's not get too judgemental in return.

I'm still a little curious as to what you mean by "our culture".
Now you've got me curious about your curiosity. What do you think he meant by "our culture"?
 

Willow

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Don't get me wrong, I have no gripe with Mitchell. He is a great player when he wants to put his mind to playing footy. His attitude is a me thing in my opinion and somehow I don't think he would slot in with our team of players let alone with the coaching personnel we have. I think this is one of the reasons that the Roosters were happy to see him leave the club.
Saints have a history of turning players around. Josh Dugan is probably the best recent example.

I'd have him in a moment, in the centres. That said, we have a coach who would find a way to make him look ordinary.
 

Willow

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Im ok with what they just did, although the match ban seems light.

Addo-Carr and Mitchell have both been slapped with $50,000 fines, 60 percent of which will be suspended along with one match bans that were suspended for the remainder of the season.


Roberts-Davis and Cleary were both handed $10,000 fines with 60 percent of that amount suspended. They were both handed one-match bans that were suspended.

NRL Acting Chief Executive Andrew Abdo said the sanctions handed to the players were much heavier than the fines given to members of the public.

"The sanctions proposed today are stronger than fines which can be imposed by authorities because we hold our players to a higher standard and they must set a higher standard for the community,'' he said.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-andrew-abdo/23af9237-a514-46b5-9f64-0b3af1dd4742
Well I mentioned earlier that there might be further action from the NRL. And there we have it. Should be the end of the matter, if people allow it to be.

One match ban and $50K is light? What would you prefer?
 

TruSaint

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Well I mentioned earlier that there might be further action from the NRL. And there we have it. Should be the end of the matter, if people allow it to be.

One match ban and $50K is light? What would you prefer?

Re-read my post.

I believe i said the match ban was light.
 

TruSaint

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That's why I placed a question mark there.

I assumed you meant it was 'light' as in 'light punishment' - correct?

This is what I said mate.

Im ok with what they just did, although the match ban seems light.

Don't know where you are going with this. My words imply the financial fine is appropriate. Yesterday based on the facts at hand I said I agree that a fine was enough.

Today I said Im ok with the overall penalty but feel a 1 game suspended sentence is light.

Can't be any clearer than that. As to whether or not this is the end of the matter as you say ( if people allow it ), I guess that up to the players. The media, love or hate them, will eat this shit up. This is where the code, clubs and players need to lead by example.

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Willow

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This is what I said mate.

Im ok with what they just did, although the match ban seems light.

Don't know where you are going with this.
Apparently not very far at all.
My words imply the financial fine is appropriate. Yesterday based on the facts at hand I said I agree that a fine was enough.

Today I said Im ok with the overall penalty but feel a 1 game suspended sentence is light.

Can't be any clearer than that. As to whether or not this is the end of the matter as you say ( if people allow it ), I guess that up to the players. The media, love or hate them, will eat this shit up. This is where the code, clubs and players need to lead by example.

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Thanks for the clarification. By suspended, I assume the match ban will take place when there are confirmed fixtures again, happy to be corrected. And you think this one match suspended sentence is light. How am I doing?

If so, the revised question is... what do you think should be the number of suspended match bans?
 

TruSaint

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Apparently not very far at all.
Thanks for the clarification. By suspended, I assume the match ban will take place when there are confirmed fixtures again, happy to be corrected. And you think this one match suspended sentence is light. How am I doing?

If so, the revised question is... what do you think should be the number of suspended match bans?

Yep, we are not getting far at all. On that we are in agreement.

I will though give you my opinion on the match bans. One month / 4 games at a minimum. In light of the warnings prior to this incident, the risk factor and damage to the game, i believe it to be appropriate. The game is bigger than 1 or 2 stars who feel its okay to dismiss government guidelines at such a delicate time for all.

If we are to rise above and not get bashed by media / public, then the game needs to sets higher standards.

We wont agree on this, and thats fine. However, expect the barrage of bad publicity to continue if these players dont wake up to themselves and that cant be good for the game or any Clayton's comp they want to re-instate as a result of poor management.
 

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