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Leagues club AGM 2012

spartan2153

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So the 5 year plan is regular top 4 finish. Competitive roster & change culture.

This is why people think he is so good. f**k me this guy is a joke.
 

Ron Jeremy

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So the 5 year plan is regular top 4 finish. Competitive roster & change culture.

This is why people think he is so good. f**k me this guy is a joke.

isnt that every f**king coaches plan? and look at all the idiots who buy it, f**k me this clubs a shit hole of epic proportions.
 

bartman

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So the 5 year plan is regular top 4 finish. Competitive roster & change culture.

This is why people think he is so good. f**k me this guy is a joke.
So it takes us five long years to reach that? Which conveniently includes a contract extension for the 7 from 34 wondercoach? All with no more guarantee that it won't all fall apart again in the sixth year, and no more probability that it would be any different than appointing a better credentialled coach from next season?

But yes, we must all unite and stand behind Kearney no matter the results :lol:
 

spartan2153

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So it takes us five long years to reach that? Which conveniently includes a contract extension for the 7 from 34 wondercoach? All with no more guarantee that it won't all fall apart again in the sixth year, and no more probability that it would be any different than appointing a better credentialled coach from next season?

But yes, we must all unite and stand behind Kearney no matter the results :lol:

And they sacked da for that. Lol. People wonder why there is so much animosity towards 3p & our poor record under kearney. What a joke. Lol. I am even more convinced this club is fixed after the da fiasco.
 

Eels Dude

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So the 5 year plan is regular top 4 finish. Competitive roster & change culture.

This is why people think he is so good. f**k me this guy is a joke.

Regular top 4 finish looks more like regular bottom 4 finish at this stage. In order to accomplish a regular top 4 finish it's not even a 5 year plan any more, it'd have to be a 7 year plan.
 

bartman

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^^ Make that two convenient contract extensions then! :lol:

Renewing those season tickets looks a bit less attractive the more air the Kearney ten year plan seems to be getting...
 

Craig Johnston

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So the 5 year plan is regular top 4 finish. Competitive roster & change culture.

This is why people think he is so good. f**k me this guy is a joke.

easy to say, hard to acheive. changing a culture and installing new junior development policies is the right direction
 

parramaniac2516

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I was at the AGM and just got home. It took a good hour to get to the actual performance of the NRL team.

Basically SK address the members and says he takes 100% responsibility for the poor start to the season. Went on to say nothing will change and he believes he has the ability and the right people to pull the team out of the slump.

It was asked about the 5 year plan and he said he wants to change the culture so we are competitive and a top four team every year however that doesnt happen over night.

Unfortunately there were only 8 questions and some were just a waste of time e.g." Hindy can you guarantee the fans you will play good football this year" :roll:

Alot of the anti Kearney questions were not given a chance to be responded to as Spags felt it was unfair. And obviously the Pro Kearney supporters were allowed to say their five cents worth.
 
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Avenger

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Brian Smith achieved a semis appearance after the Eels were in the wilderness for 10 years and he did it in his first year.In total he missed the semis only twice in 10 years. Yet people (including me) used to complain about him. How stupid I was. This board and Kearney are drowning so badly that it isn't even funny anymore.
 
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spiderdan

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we have a lot of pissed off fans/supporters.

my personal take on things:

i am not upset with the board in fixing things up behind the scenes. our club has for a long while relying on handouts from the leagues club while draining it. in the modern day that wasn't something sustainable and was bleeding the leagues club. at a quick glance of the annual report it seems the board are fixing things from that end. hopefully they can get our club to the point where the nrl teams are drawing their own funding sources so the leagues club is nothing more than a financial fallback on a really rainy day, and a place to hang out.

not happy with the football side of things. as i've said before, i don't think sk is solely to blame but credit to him for stating he cops the poor form (sun tzu would be proud). as i've also said before, he should be given his contract term to do what his plan is supposed to do (or at least see if it gets on track). i am not a believer of changing kpi numbers to make it look like he's doing well. it's great to have a plan, but at some point you need to have evidence that plan is on track which doesn't seem to be happening.

as i've also said, i don't think there should be any talk of contract extension or coach replacement until the end of the year. it's pretty obvious we won't be doing a 2009 effort this year and making the finals so i'd be wanting to see evidence of the plan working at the end of this year. so if the side isn't firing or highly competitive to finsih the last 1/3 or 1/2 of the season i'd want the board to give kearney 6-8 weeks of 2013 to get us right. if we aren't then start taking steps for a replacement.

lastly i would have liked for wayne swan to introduce the budget singing the budget insurance jingle. seem to be a dead govt walking and maybe the jingle might help.
 

Eelementary

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Love Kearney or dislike him, I feel someone in the NRL forum made a very, very valid point regarding why it can take time to rebuild a club from the top down. Essentially, the crux of this person's argument was that to rebuild a club, you face two obstacles:

(1) changing the culture of the entire organisation;

and

(2) managing the salary cap.

Point number one is straightforward enough - changing a club's culture can take a week or a year (maybe even more). But it is a tough task.

The interesting point made was about managing the cap. In general terms, teams that struggle must usually either rely on junior talent to pull them through slumps, or attract new players to the club. Any new recruits, if they are serious about fixing the issues, need to be of a decent calibre - and this becomes the big problem.

A struggling club will almost always have to pay overs to attract the type of quality players that they deem most likely to help lift a club out of the bottom of the table. Successful players would rather get paid less and stay at a successful club than get paid a lot and play for a struggling club (generally speaking). And this tends to spiral out of control - you pay overs to attract one or two above average players (or even elite level talent, if you're lucky) and must spend the rest of your cap buying average or below average players as you have little cap space left. This continues for years until you can maintain a sustained period of success, whereby you can normally attract great players more easily and for less money.

I think it is a very tangible point, and it illustrates why it may take some time to fix the root of the problems with the club. I think it sucks that we keep struggling on the field, but I think we need a guy who is ready, willing and able to roll up his sleeves and do the dirty work (and, really - what could be "dirtier" than not giving club legends like Burt and Hindmarsh the chance to re-sign their contracts for one more year? It was a tough call, but Kearney made it) to get us back to the top again.
 

Tissun

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I just got back from the AGM and i am disgusted at the lack of transparency by the board. 8 questions from the floor and the majority of them very wasteful. Usual stuff you would expect from an underperforming the coach and the same stuff thats been said all season. Its with absolute disgrace that I tell my son we are going to watch his mighty beloved Parramatta Eels play these days. The drive home is no easier.
 

Ron Jeremy

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easy to say, hard to acheive. changing a culture and installing new junior development policies is the right direction

didn't realise Parra had a junior development problem:?

Our culture looked fine in 2009...

Jim Harbough took the niners to a 13-3 season, one game short of the SB, first season ever as coach, the niners had been shit for years, he changed the culture all in an offseason.

If you can change a culture in an offseason in the NFL it can happen in any sport, only naive people believe this plan, just watch things get worse:lol:
 

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