HJ no they wont counted and should not be counted, Burt mind you did very well and I was pleased with his game (one of the best all year). HJ I also agree with you assessment of Hayne today, he has a less influential game but was probably due backing up from origin. He did some bad things today but did try and get involved. He didn't have alot of luck thou and he could have set up 3 tries (Lats no try, intercept that would have put burt away and then the chip kick that Robson should have just continued to the line).