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Main reason why top end changes are needed (Tigers)

Engine

Juniors
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Here is the main reason...

Front Row : Jeff Lima Issac De Gois Ray Cashmere

Second Row : Ryan Hoffman Anthony Laffranchi

Lock : Luke O'Donnell

Bench : Bronson Harrison, Ben Teo

Here is what I cannot stand about our club. For the GREAT majority of their times at the Wests Tigers, ALL of these players were either average or below average.
Once they left, their footy had improved remarkably. There is definitely something wrong in the way our club brings up their forwards.

That pack would smash the present one into pieces.
 

lockyrulz

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Luke O'Donnell was great for the tigs.

Teo has done sfa at the broncos so far.

No idea about the rest.
 

MsStorm

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Here is the main reason...

Front Row : Jeff Lima Issac De Gois Ray Cashmere

Second Row : Ryan Hoffman Anthony Laffranchi

Lock : Luke O'Donnell

Bench : Bronson Harrison, Ben Teo

Here is what I cannot stand about our club. For the GREAT majority of their times at the Wests Tigers, ALL of these players were either average or below average.
Once they left, their footy had improved remarkably. There is definitely something wrong in the way our club brings up their forwards.

That pack would smash the present one into pieces.

That always seems to happen, probably players realising they need to be committed with their new clubs.

Thanks for Lima and Hoffy btw....;-)
 

Scarves

Juniors
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I like what I've seen from Ellis.

Galloway is playing better now than ever.

Heighington is solid.

Farah is a gun.

Payten is no bunny either.

Every club loses players, the Tigers no exception, Hoffman wouldn't make that back row of yours. O'Donnell's been injured for the past two seasons (albeit a class player). Cashmere being a local lad probably should have been kept but other than that I don't see too many glaring errors there. You'll get better. Look on the bright side, you are playing us this week.
 
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Nah, as soon as that pussy Te'o came on all the good work would go down the drain.

Harrison has really surprised me. He's quickly turning into one of the top backrowers in the game. Yet at the Tigers, he was a decent player at best.

Coached poory methinks...
 

magpie_man

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Cloud over Longmuir as boardroom split threatens to tear Tigers apart Glenn Jackson | April 7, 2009

FEARS have been raised that Wests Tigers are headed down a path well-trodden by Manly in recent months, as ructions in the front office, at the centre of which is their chief executive Scott Longmuir, threaten to hurt the club off the field.
Relations between Longmuir and coach Tim Sheens, as well as star halfback Benji Marshall and other members of the club's football department, are believed to be strained, with the CEO fighting to save his job even though he has the support of the club chairman.
The Herald understands an extraordinary board meeting is likely be held within days, at which Longmuir could be sacked from the post he secured last year. Longmuir is believed to be barely on speaking terms with Sheens after the pair fell out over the club boss's plans for the football department.
The infighting was last night described by Balmain legend and former Wests Tigers director Ben Elias as like "rust in a car".
Longmuir last year took over from long-time chief executive Steve Noyce, who had a falling-out with board member Kevin Hammond, the current chairman, who is from the Western Suburbs side of the merger. Chairmanship of the merged club switches from Balmain to Wests representatives yearly.
Longmuir is believed to have aligned himself with Hammond, and there is now believed to be a clear split on the board, which still has Balmain and Wests alliances, over the chief executive's future.
The fact that the relationship between Longmuir and the coach and some players has become strained will make it difficult for the boss to keep his job, although Hammond last night maintained Longmuir's position was secure, saying "his track record speaks for itself".
"In any organisation or business where you have substantial change, and we have a new CEO in Scott … he'll have a different way of dealing with things," Hammond said. "That sort of thing can create issues and they need to be worked through, but there's no great catastrophe.
"He did a fantastic job as marketing manager and that's why he was given the job as CEO. Everything's going fine. Membership is up, we've got one of the most sound and stable sponsorship bases in the NRL. We've won two out of four, and the players and coaches are working hard to make sure things are going as well as they can be. The club is heading in the right direction."
Asked about the relationship between Longmuir and Sheens, Hammond said: "There's been some discussions between Tim and Scott about the direction of the business, and suggestions about how Scott wants to take the business forward."

Hammond did not deny the club planned an extraordinary general meeting, however he said if it eventuated it would be used to discuss "a couple of issues".
"It's nothing out of the ordinary," he said.
Longmuir did not wish to comment last night. The boardroom drama at the club has some striking similarities to Manly's recent problems, at the centre of which was bickering between the co-owners Max Delmege and Scott Penn. There, chief executive Grant Mayer, who initially tendered his resignation but whose job now appears secure, had a close working relationship with Penn, who did not have the boardroom numbers.
Longmuir is also believed to have asked Sheens to provide him with a report following each game detailing key performance indicators. Sea Eagles coach Des Hasler was similarly asked to provide KPIs to management, even though his side won the premiership last season.
The Tigers have won two matches from four so far this season, but their 42-22 loss to Penrith last Saturday night resulted in Sheens locking members of his coaching staff and Longmuir out of the team dressing room for 15 minutes.
Elias said he feared the problems would affect the team's performances on the field.
"I would be very very surprised if it doesn't quickly get sorted," Elias said. "It's like rust in a car. You want to cut the rust out before it spreads."
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Looks like Longmuir is trying to put a bit more accountability on Sheens, and he'll probably lose his job because of it...
 
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westie

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Nah, as soon as that pussy Te'o came on all the good work would go down the drain.

Harrison has really surprised me. He's quickly turning into one of the top backrowers in the game. Yet at the Tigers, he was a decent player at best.

Coached poory methinks...

I swear you criticised me for years for suggesting this. Just as I have with Te'o. Latent talent, needs time, coaching and the correct position to blossom.
 

tiger_nick

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anybody who saw bronson play juniors could tell he was something special. i still remember when he debuted in premier league against souths at leichhardt oval. he was only 16 and played in the centers. my mate played club footy with him so we went early to watch him play. he absolutely terroised souths right side defence. he put his winger away more then a couple of times.

personally i dont think he ever should have moved from there. i can understand the progression to backrow but it could have been avoided. however to try and turn him into a prop was a complete and utter joke. he was never EVER going to be a decent first grade prop. he WILL however turn out to be one of the most damaging wide running backrowers in the comp imo.

another sheens masterstroke, at least bronson got out while he could still save his career.
 
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Against the Dogs in 05 Sheens let him run wide, and he was the second best player on the park behind an in form Scott Prince. He never got that chance again.
 
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I swear you criticised me for years for suggesting this. Just as I have with Te'o. Latent talent, needs time, coaching and the correct position to blossom.

For suggesting that Te'o was sh*t, or that Harrison was poorly coached?

Who knew Harrison had what he's showing now, he never showed them in a Wests Tigers jersey. But it's quite obvious now that he wasn't allowed to.

Te'o is no good. Simple.
 

magpie_man

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Tigers chief faces chop to end infighting Glenn Jackson | April 9, 2009

ATTEMPTED peace talks between Wests Tigers coach Tim Sheens and chairman Kevin Hammond are unlikely to save the job of chief executive Scott Longmuir, who is expected to be sacked today at a 5pm extraordinary general meeting.
The Herald understands Hammond, who is closely aligned with Longmuir, met Sheens on Tuesday in a bid to resolve the simmering hostilities between the coach and CEO, which has culminated in today's board meeting, called to prevent the broken morale filtering onto the playing field.
As revealed in the Herald on Tuesday, Sheens is barely on speaking terms with Longmuir, the two having fallen out over a number of issues, including the veteran coach being asked to provide key performance indicators after each game and attempts by Longmuir to cut football department staff.
The Tigers are two-from-four but their performance in meekly surrendering to Penrith on Saturday night would suggest the off-field upheavals were having some effect.
The troubles are believed to have come to a head more than a week ago, even though there had been tensions between the football staff - including a number of players - and the head of the front office previously. Since then, Longmuir is believed to have attempted to contact directors in a bid to save his job. But the fact Longmuir is not on a contract with the club will count against him.
Sheens is contracted until the end of next year, and any attempts to remove him from his post would result in a hefty pay-out, something the club would be desperate to avoid.
Unless the tensions between Sheens and Longmuir are smoothed over - as well as the relationship with other staff and players - Longmuir will find it difficult to stay.
The ongoing saga is believed to have deeply affected Sheens, and assistant coach Royce Simmons was forced to answer questions at Tigers training yesterday. He would only say: "I'm not making nothing of that. That's up to the board and everything, so I'm not really getting involved in it."
Sauce

I feel like crying.
 

westie

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For suggesting that Te'o was sh*t, or that Harrison was poorly coached?

Who knew Harrison had what he's showing now, he never showed them in a Wests Tigers jersey. But it's quite obvious now that he wasn't allowed to.

Te'o is no good. Simple.


Both. And I'll be right on both. Watch.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Te'o definitely has plenty of talent, but no heart. And his attitude after he signed for Brisbane was absolute sh*t.

With the right coaching he will probably end up being a very good player, but I have noticed that so far he has done very little at the Broncos.
 

N.C.

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If Te'o can get his hunger back he will be great. He's an attacking forward and he needs to learn how to tackle, or at least make himself appear to be part of a defensive line. When he gets that sorted, he'll go alright. Until then he'll lose you more games than he'll win you.
 

Steve Austin

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In another article in the Tele today Sheens 'threatens' to take his coaching staff with him if there's anymore dramas.

It's funny to think that he thinks that's a threat.
 
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