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Manly Salary Cap

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What continually annoys me with these repeated salary cap breaches is the players continue to be untouchable. Players have a window of about 10-14 years to earn as much as they can from the game, I just don't believe for a second that any player at contract time does not ensure he knows every aspect of the payments they are going to get. To sit there and say I didn't know what I was receiving and leave that to my manager is insulting.

DCE was on Big League Wrap and they asked him only a couple of questions about the cap issue, and then moved on to talk about footy. What the f**k? Ask him questions like does a player sign a contract not knowing every aspect of what they are getting to play for a club. Ask DCE why the backflip from the gold coast to Manly and exactly what payments were disclosed to him. ASk DCE if he will be retaining his manager following these revelations.

What needs to happen is from the CEO down, every contract that is signed and lodged with the NRL needs to be accompanied by a statutory declaration from all involved that the money declared in the contract is every dollar that is being paid to that player as an incentive to sign for that club. The CEO,whoever in the club is in charge of recruitment, the player manager and the player signs it.

Next salary cap blow up punt the lot of them from the game for a lengthy ban, years. Ignorance is not a defence and I don't believe for a moment the player isn't 100% aware of what he is getting, but this lay off the players stance is just inviting it to continue, not to mention the very light sanctions applied.

Many have been rorting the cap for 5 years with brown paper bag payments essentially. Yet the worst thing they get is a salary cap effect for two years, not money off the grant, but a little less money to spend under the cap. And Manly have the nerve to want to appeal the severity of the punishment. Insanity.

This would by my punishment, stripped of all competition points for those 5 years, history can record them running last for those years. The fine is fair enough, the lowering of the cap for the next two years is fine but it needs to come off the grant also.

If the results for any period of rorting still stands then there is no real incentive not to. Melbourne lost premierships from this, it should not matter if you finished 10th or 4th, you should have all points stripped for those years.
Wouldn't want to take your trophy cabinet mate sorry, your team earned those spoons
 
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At the end of the day, I just cannot believe this shit is still happening after Canterbury, Melbourne and Parramatta, especially after Melbourne. That is a black eye that is yet to heal and here we are once again debating whether a punishment for cheating was sufficient and what the hell is going to happen with the salary cap to make it actually f**king work for once. As if this isn't the millionth f**king time that's happened.
Get off your high donkey shitbag

As if your team isn't always the most expensive in the league

They should do away with third parties altogether
 

t-ba

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Ikin is all about centralised agreements.

Prick read my post.

I think this is entirely reasonable. Especially with the club grant more than covering the salary cap these days. Instead of handing out the Salary component of the club grant the NRL could simply pay the players what the clubs have signed them for.

This shouldn't preclude players from earning additional income however. In light of that, I also think players should submit to having their income taxes done by an internal NRL department just to really keep them accountable. This would force players to declare every scrap of income to the NRL, unless they want to be guilty of tax evasion.
 

t-ba

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let's call the elephant in the room, IF manly got the punishment they deserved, they'd edge pretty damn close to relocation/folding

The Penn family is very wealthy and this whole thing is an ego trip for them.

I doubt a seven figure fine would send them up the wall. A man can dream...
 

Cumberland Throw

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This whole thing has a sense of de-sensitisation about it. Look at the massive sentiment in cricket over a pretty minor cheating situation compared to the shrug of the shoulders this has created. Its like it has happened so many times that it is half expected these days and punishments weak and we'll just move on until next time somebody has the whistle blown on them. Watching smug DCE on Fox you'd think he was talking about a spilt beer, not a massive cheating scandal. At least Trent looked absolutely gutted!

As said at the very min any club found cheating the cap systemically should have every point from every season they cheated removed and all wins expunged from the records.

So has Gavin Orr been de listed ?
 

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