Utey
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True EEL said:the bigger picture is the trophy cabinet - and it's bare..........
True but I really think what he has done with the club warrants him to see out his entire contract.
True EEL said:the bigger picture is the trophy cabinet - and it's bare..........
Suitman said:Actually, there have been very few people blaming him totally for yesterday, far less than expected.
Even WS has acknowleged the players aren't totally blameless, several times.
But WS is getting fed up with Smith's ongoing record. His tolerance is lower than yours. So what. You both have valid opinions and that is that. I just don't understand why the Smith lovers get so incensed by those who want him to go.
Its not as if they don't have a fair argument these days.
Suity
strider said:What I don't understand is that people are so blinded by there passion for removing Brian Smith that they don't even acknowledge any other factors.
People are dead set blaming all of yesterday on the coach....but I saw a bunch of players making silly mistakes and rushing things....I don't want these players removed - they were trying their best - I just think many of them were young and inexperienced and paniced.....thats no ones fault - its just that sh*t happens.
True EEL said:the bigger picture is the trophy cabinet - and it's bare..........
<UPtheEELS> said:True but I really think what he has done with the club warrants him to see out his entire contract.
strider said:Well that why we all argue isn't it.
You guys can't handle anything less than a big trophy to show for the work put in.
I personally don't believe you have to win the big trophy to have been successful.....as I have said over and over - most ppl expected us to finish top 4 at best....so I think we had a successful year.
strider said:we'd ALL like a big shiny trophy - but I am not prepared to turn on people because they don't get it
Suitman said:You seem to be turning on people who don't necessarily share your opinion though.
Suity
Ant said:I have always felt it was harsh to blame one person for the problems of many. Yes no Brian Smith side has ever won a GF, and yes yesterday was a terrible eels performance. But gee he gets sides that not many people rate at the start of seasons a long way.
At the start of this year as many people tipped us to miss the top 8 as to make it, I don't think anyone had us in the top 4. We may have finished minor premiers, but I think we were just one of 6 good sides this season. We had some good moments but we weren't absolute stand outs for long periods.
strider said:Well that why we all argue isn't it.
You guys can't handle anything less than a big trophy to show for the work put in.
I personally don't believe you have to win the big trophy to have been successful.....as I have said over and over - most ppl expected us to finish top 4 at best....so I think we had a successful year.
Eelementary said:That's all very nice and well.
But the other half of his job is to WIN Premierhsips.
In his 20 year history or whatever, how many times has he done that?
It's a worrying stat.
strider said:- but at the end of the day we weren't good enough for a whole bunch of reasons.
strider said:Suity - I generally think you are a good bloke - but please don't play Mr Impartial Observer role in this....we know where you stand on this issue.
strider said:No one is saying he is NOT trying his butt off to do that - and no one is saying they don't want that also.....all I am saying is that its bloody hard to win a premiership - yeah we should have taken our chances better when they came up - but at the end of the day we weren't good enough for a whole bunch of reasons.
Despite that - I think people should still have enough insight to see it was still a successful season despite the final disappointment.
walker smith said:If you went to a professional - say a lawyer - and time after time he failed to complete the task for which he was engaged, would you continue to engage him or go else where?
Or say you went to a plumber to fix something and nine times in a row he said he thought he fixed it, only to find later that it is still broken - despite the fact that he was a good bloke and despite the fact that he tried hard to fix it - would you look else where to have your problem fixed?
Most reasonable people would look anywhere else to get the problem fixed, especially if it provided recurring angst....