Mergers and Premiership Tallies

[Baron Vo Mandor]

I'll try again. Read carefully...

I have always supported the St George Dragons. I have continued this support in the Joint Venture known as the St George Illawarra Dragons.

I believe in the proud history that went before and follow the team and club into the future.

St George are part of the St George Illawarra Dragons Joint Venture.

I claim 16 overall...

...and wait for it, this is in line with the Dragons club.

St George Illawarra Dragons may have won one NRL grand final (NRL, est 1998), but the TOTAL premierships are 16 by virtue of the St George Dragons previously winning 15.

The Dragons in 2010 have recorded 16 premierships as TOTAL.

Perhaps you should close you eyes at this point, or maybe refer to the Dragons as some irrelevant RSL - put it down, denigrate RSLs, call it propaganda. You seem to take comfort in that.

The journal, entitled, '1921-2010 Our Proud History' has been published by the Joint Venture.

The '1921-2010 Our Proud History' also include all past record holders including St George and Illawarra Club Life members. Therefore, the clubs are not dead, St George are not dead, despite your attempts to say otherwise.

I am quite happy with the JV winning a first NRL grand final but I claim 16 premierships overall thanks to St George. And the JV agrees with that view.

Did you follow that?

Sorry if that rattles any 'in-depth' research done by the google generation. My only advice is you kids should stop being so lazy, get to a library, make a few phone calls, read journals, and talk to people in the real world.

In other words, take a fair dinkum interest in the subject matter. Not some claytons attempt born out of the desperation of dealing with a Dragons premiership victory.

Don't give a stuff about dennis. Looks like he has upset you. Are you one of these kids following with the silly political situation at the Parra club?

Was that your last paper cause?


St George Leagues Club is neither bowls or RSL. But it seems to be a put down. So I ask again, what have you got against RSL clubs?

FTR, St George Leagues has Football Club offices and is a rich backer of the Dragons JV. Of course, you just don't know this.

You can't tell the difference. Just like you can't tell the difference between feeder clubs and the NRL.

Tell me, when Newtown were a feeder for Souths, did you immediately think they were combining premierships?

Nothing more to read sunshine you chose to support St Merge because St George no longer competes in the NRL.

Its that easy.

 

[Fingerbang]

You didn't answer the question mate, how many official recognised premierships have STGI won according to the NRL?

Are you f*cking geniused? Read Willows post again and I am sure you will find where he said he is proud of the JV winning their first premiership this year.....the JV being STGI?

That is why this argument is becoming so boring. No Dragons fans are denying STGI has only won one premiership. Dragons exist in the JV and hence why the 2010 premiership is the 16th for St George Dragons. FFS. It isn't rocket science.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Are you f*cking geniused? Read Willows post again and I am sure you will find where he said he is proud of the JV winning their first premiership this year.....the JV being STGI?

That is why this argument is becoming so boring. No Dragons fans are denying STGI has only won one premiership. Dragons exist in the JV and hence why the 2010 premiership is the 16th for St George Dragons. FFS. It isn't rocket science.

So your claiming that.....

St George-Illawarra won the 2010 premiership.
St George won the 2010 premiership.
Illawarra must have won it to being part of the joint venture.

Unreal that 3 clubs can win 1 premiership!

 

[Fingerbang]

So your claiming that.....

St George-Illawarra won the 2010 premiership.
St George won the 2010 premiership.
Illawarra must have won it to being part of the joint venture.

Unreal that 3 clubs can win 1 premiership!

That is nothing like what I said, Amanda.....if you are too thick to see what we are saying, and choose to twist our words around to keep your argument going....go for it. All you are doing is showing how stupid you must be. Carry on.

 

[beave]

I seriously can't believe this thread now has 2385 posts in it....................... is the offseason I guess, but FFS lads..................

 

[juanfarkall]

Baron has plenty of idle time whilst he waits for Gids to call back.....











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[Zoggy]

I seriously can't believe this thread now has 2385 posts in it....................... is the offseason I guess, but FFS lads..................

Its awesome , i come her for some lol's and to be entertained.

and for the record. 16,

STI = 1
STG = 15
ILL = 0

Total = 16

If you dont like it what im saying Baron please let me know so i can lol some more

 

[ANTiLAG]

Its awesome , i come her for some lol's and to be entertained.

and for the record. 16,

STI = 1
STG = 15
ILL = 0

Total = 16

If you dont like it what im saying Baron please let me know so i can lol some more

Don't forget the North Sydney Bears and Newton Jets are defunct.

Claim some of their premierships, too!

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

You St George fans are just lucky I dont make this a police matter.

Lucky I believe in doing the decent and right thing.

This quite simply is the most morally reprehensible thing I've ever heard!

 

[juanfarkall]

You St George fans are just lucky I dont make this a police matter.

Lucky I believe in doing the decent and right thing.

This quite simply is the most morally reprehensible thing I've ever heard!

Please do, I never pictured you as a comedienne.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Please do, I never pictured you as a comedienne.

Last time I checked fraud wasn't a laughing matter.

And your gross misrepresentation of the facts is quite simply one of the most vile and diabolical acts I've seen.

 

[Azkatro]

Nice trolling Azkatro, to think some sensitive types accuse me of that. ;-)

Thank you for trying to tell me who my club is, but shame on you too.

Are you able to acknowledge that the Dragons have 16 premierships overall?

Just think about the St George Dragons, 15 premierships. Then think about the St George Illawarra Dragons addition.

Then wonder for a second longer.

If you are fair dinkum about record keeping, you should be able to make the stretch. Otherwise, you're just trying to look for an easy route.

The St George Illawarra journal '1921-2010 Our Proud History' has confirmed the record keeping of the St George Football Club Journal of 2002.

I'm happy to bring you up to speed. Please feel free to PM me.

And sorry, but Clapton is not god. There is no god (don't tell Softy).

I just think that describing it as St George's 16th premiership is putting it on level terms with their other 15 premierships. Which, in my view, is an insult to the Illawarra club's involvement in the joint venture. I don't believe the St George club is dead, because it's not, it's involved in the joint venture. Nor do I disagree that the St George club has been involved in 16 premiership victories - but being involved in, and *winning* can't be put on level terms.

How do you think Steelers supporters feel when they see St George supporters dancing in the aisles claiming their 16th premiership? It's not like they can join in as equals and cheer the same thing. Once again I have no problem with St George's journals writing this as the 16th premiership title which St George has been involved in, but to outright state that the St George club should be *credited* with 16 premierships is totally unfair on the Illawarra side of the joint venture - and what's more, is not factually correct, because it totally ignores that fact that they achieved the 16th title as part of a joint venture. So if you are indeed fair dinkum about record keeping, that needs to be duly noted

 

[juanfarkall]

Last time I checked fraud wasn't a laughing matter.

And your gross misrepresentation of the facts is quite simply one of the most vile and diabolical acts I've seen.

So have you called 000 yet ?

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

So have you called 000 yet ?

At this time of year they have enough on their hands.

And me being a Jedi master am quite capable of enforcing the law.

 

[to_ddeath]

I just :lol: for the millionth time at Von Twatdoor again....how long can you keep this sh*t up for....

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Keep what up?

Doing the decent and right thing?

If thats what your asking I'll be here for as long as it takes, even if it costs me my youth.

 

[Willow]

You St George fans are just lucky I dont make this a police matter.

:lol:

Is that like you being lucky that Mark Gasnier and the RLW didn't make it a police matter?

Misreprentation of a publication and misrepresenting the words of a another person. I'm sure there are laws against that sort of stuff.

Don't worry baroness, you could always plead insanity. I'd go into bat for you.

Lucky I believe in doing the decent and right thing.

I'm sure that'd stand up in court too. You could always use the Jedi defence. Or better still: "It's the vibe your honour..."

 

[Willow]

I just think that describing it as St George's 16th premiership is putting it on level terms with their other 15 premierships. Which, in my view, is an insult to the Illawarra club's involvement in the joint venture.

Is it a moral issue with you?

I have not met a single Illawarra supporter who is offended by any such notion.

There may be someone, have you met them?

I don't believe the St George club is dead, because it's not, it's involved in the joint venture.

Agreed. That's what we've been saying all along.

Nor do I disagree that the St George club has been involved in 16 premiership victories - but being involved in, and *winning* can't be put on level terms.

The view I support is that we have 16 premiership overall (a TOTAL), virtue of the fact that St George won 15.

How do you think Steelers supporters feel when they see St George supporters dancing in the aisles claiming their 16th premiership?

Those I have met celebrated as one on grand final day. It was great.

It's not like they can join in as equals and cheer the same thing.

With respect, that's not your decision to make.

Anyway, repeating ourselves - again.

We can conclude the following:

Innsane is trolling just so he tell others that they are trolling, and he 'cares'. Some might think a little part of him died when Benji kicked out on the full in the preliminary final. It's a sound theory.

Baroness is going for the world record - longest boring stand up routine in history. The room may eventually empty out but it'll keep going. Of course this is all to mask a deep pain that the baroness has been dealing with since grand final day.
FTR, the baronesses lawyers have contacted LU and asked for the return of certain medication.

Softy aspires to be the baroness, but can't read yet.

The rest seem to have wandered off.

The Dragons have won 16 premierships.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Willow.

I am still waiting for you to prove to me that St George Dragons competed in the 2010 NRL comp.

 

[Azkatro]

virtue of the fact that St George won 15.

There's a good quotable for the real trolls :lol:

Seriously though, I truly believe that we're arguing two different things. If you get down to semantics, you would get us all to agree on the same things, which is why I started putting forward the "moral" side of the coin. I'm not a Steelers fan, as you know, but I still strongly feel that the Illawarra side of the joint venture doesn't get due recognition for being a 50% part of it - so statements like "16 premierships for the Dragons" and "all-Sydney grand final" to me come across as disrespectful to the Illawarra side of the joint venture.

Having said that, it's only a debate at the end of the day. Dragons fans are quite entitled to feel proud of St George's involvement in 16 premiership wins - nobody can take that away from them now. Nor can any of us really change the "official" stance of the NRL which is that St George's premiership tally will forever remain at 15.