Mergers and Premiership Tallies

[Ulysseus]

Illawarra had substantial debt prior to shacking up with Saints.
This debt was not assumed by Saints.
As is the case with a full on combining of companies, the debt would have become a shared debt under the one entirely new entity.
As is stands, WIN television bought a stake in Illawarra relieving of much of their debt issues, on the proviso that only the Illawarra side could buy back that half of their club.

On the reasons the BHP take over of Rio fell down was the debt that would have been to large for BHP to effectively manage after paying out an exorbidant amount for the Rio shares.

In comparison to this, the two sides were going to form a joint venture in WA, which would have still left each side as separate companies in their own right with their own offices etc.

To my knowledge, Illawarra still have their own offices do they not?
Saints still have their own offices do they not?

 

[Gaba]

There is your mistake....it never was a standalone entity. Always has been a JV between Dragons and Steelers.

If they merged again with, say Sharks, and won the comp....it would be a first for the StGeorgeIllawarraCronulla Dragons, 17th for Dragons and 2nd for Illawarra.[/QUOTE]

Think about what u just wrote!
1 stg/illa/sharks
2 illa
1 Sharks
17 StG

so 4 teams claim 1 premierhsip :lol::lol::lol:

the roosters and dogs could also be involved in the joint venture and they would claim it too

you end up with 6 clubs claiming the premiership

Just to upset souths , 15 other teams can be in the joint venture, and all claim the premierships

as the joint venture and stand alone clubs

 

[SoftSydney]

They are still under wests tigers banner

so now it changes again lol

no matter what song u guys sing the official tally is 1

 

[Gaba]

so now it changes again lol

no matter what song u guys sing the official tally is 1

How does my opinion change i made the statement they go under the wests tigers banner and you showed my point,that the wests tigers operate under wests tigers.

Not wests or balmain as separate entity



Where stgeorge and Illawarra do operate under separate entity in the joint venture


lol

 

[SoftSydney]

How does my opinion change i made the statement they go under the wests tigers banner and you showed my point,that the wests tigers operate under wests tigers.

Not wests or balmain as separate entity



Where stgeorge and Illawarra do operate under separate entity in the joint venture


lol

They are both joint ventures mate two teams that combined to become one. One team plays in the GF one teams wins one team gets one premiership.
Lets say a comp starts in 2000 in 2010 we have 10 premierships, in that 10 years STGI wins them all according to you STG claim 10 Steelers claim 10 and STGI claim 10.
So in 10 years we have a tally of 30 premiership winners LOL
think about what ur saying and claiming and how utterly stupid it is!

 

[Gaba]

as long as it upsets fans like you i got no problem with it

 

[ANTiLAG]

Soft Sydney, Gaba is a LeagueUnlimited special. Do not even attempt to engage.

 

[Gaba]

Soft Sydney, Gaba is a LeagueUnlimited special. Do not even attempt to engage.

still not the same special level as you though , i got a long way to go to near your specialty

 

[ANTiLAG]

still not the same special level as you though , i got a long way to go to near your specialty

You surely do. Finishing school year 6 would be the place to start.

 

[SoftSydney]

as long as it upsets fans like you i got no problem with it

you are all the same, as soon as it gets a little tough and u see how stupid claiming 16 is you have nothing :lol::lol::lol:

 

[to_ddeath]

So let me see the official governing body of the NRL states its your first premiership and St George Dragons have 15.

You are saying this isnt fraudulant?

If so you are a despicable person.

Yes whatever you reckon Daffy Duck. Totally deshpicable....

Fraudulent NOT fraudulant.

Go to the coppers mate, they'll be more likely to get you for being a public nuisance more than anything else :lol: :lol:


T.

 

[dgsfan]

Haha. 1 Premiership. Don't worry, there are some yet to even get 1! lol

 

[This Year?]

If I changed my name by deed poll, does that mean I didn't exist before the name change? Does that mean I'd be "born" a new person? Oh the moral reprehensibilities!!!

 

[Titanic]

I suppose that depends on whether the new you has a third eye in the middle of your forehead ... whatever, good onya, you've won at least one premiership and the award for the longest thread ever glad to be a part of it.

 

[Fingerbang]

There is your mistake....it never was a standalone entity. Always has been a JV between Dragons and Steelers.

If they merged again with, say Sharks, and won the comp....it would be a first for the StGeorgeIllawarraCronulla Dragons, 17th for Dragons and 2nd for Illawarra.[/QUOTE]

Think about what u just wrote!
1 stg/illa/sharks
2 illa
1 Sharks
17 StG

so 4 teams claim 1 premierhsip :lol::lol::lol:

I thought about it and still can't see what is wrong with it. 17th premiership for Dragons, who would be one third of the 3 way JV, 2nd for Illawarra Steelers who are one third of the JV, and 1st for Cronulla Sharks who are one third of the JV....nowhere did I say 4 different teams won the comp. Just one....the StGeorge IllawarraCronulla Dragons team which is made up of 3 teams.

Tell me.....if St George Dragons are dead, and not part of the JV who won the 2010 grandfinal, why in hell were the people and the club celebrating so hard at St George Leagues Club at Kogarah? Once again, for the brain dead.....no one is denying it is 1 premiership for the JV, but the Dragons side of the JV have every right to celebrate 16 wins as it is the 16th win for the Dragons side of the JV.

 

[SoftSydney]

I thought about it and still can't see what is wrong with it. 17th premiership for Dragons, who would be one third of the 3 way JV, 2nd for Illawarra Steelers who are one third of the JV, and 1st for Cronulla Sharks who are one third of the JV....nowhere did I say 4 different teams won the comp. Just one....the StGeorge IllawarraCronulla Dragons team which is made up of 3 teams.

Tell me.....if St George Dragons are dead, and not part of the JV who won the 2010 grandfinal, why in hell were the people and the club celebrating so hard at St George Leagues Club at Kogarah? Once again, for the brain dead.....no one is denying it is 1 premiership for the JV, but the Dragons side of the JV have every right to celebrate 16 wins as it is the 16th win for the Dragons side of the JV.

Mate you are awarding a single premiership to 3 different teams tallys! only one can play and win and there for only one can have it count towards their tally, hence the offcially NRL tally of one to STGI.

The Dragons Steelers Wests and Tigers are now part of history hence their tally will never change. As a STG fan of course you can celebrate the win but the Tally is 15 AND 1 NOT 16 total as STGI is a new different team, this is the stance of STGI and the NRL.
Lets take a a steelers fan, they can claim 1 but how can they claim STG's 15?
For me its all about the tally, it is a premiership race... you cant combine two team stats up against every other team. As I mentioned before how can you have a 3 way merge and add the stats of 3 teams?

 

[Fingerbang]

You show me one Steelers supporter claiming their team now has 16 premierships.....that is just bullsh*t out of your mouth. Steelers were not part of the Dragons team that won the other 15 premierships. They were part of the team that won in 2010, hence one premiership.

Just as St George Dragons, who had one 15 premiership previously, are part of the STGI team that won in 2010.

Now read what I am saying.....ST GEORGE DRAGONS STILL EXIST IN A JOINT VENTURE WITH ILLAWARRA STEELERS. THE JOINT VENTURE TEAM WON THEIR MAIDEN PREMIERSHIP IN 2010, WHICH IS THE 16th FOR THE DRAGONS.

Do you need me to say it slower for you?

 

[Fingerbang]

Does anyone have a spare vice I can squeeze my testicles in? It would probably be less painful that trying to make idiots see sensibility.

 

[This Year?]

I'd let you use mine but I'm squeezing my moobs.

 

[SoftSydney]

You show me one Steelers supporter claiming their team now has 16 premierships.....that is just bullsh*t out of your mouth. Steelers were not part of the Dragons team that won the other 15 premierships. They were part of the team that won in 2010, hence one premiership.

Just as St George Dragons, who had one 15 premiership previously, are part of the STGI team that won in 2010.

Now read what I am saying.....ST GEORGE DRAGONS STILL EXIST IN A JOINT VENTURE WITH ILLAWARRA STEELERS. THE JOINT VENTURE TEAM WON THEIR MAIDEN PREMIERSHIP IN 2010, WHICH IS THE 16th FOR THE DRAGONS.

Do you need me to say it slower for you?

so how does the tally work? Only one team can receive the offcial credit of a premiership. Who gets it? you can not split it three ways.