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Check me out if you like, I'm mickyj.
Change Vote: Drew
Happy to go with the consensus, but still think BM is suspect.
Change Vote: Drew
Happy to go with the consensus, but still think BM is suspect.
Obviously the result does play a part but the reasoning behind it is just as important. People can do things in the game that make them suspicious enough to deserve votes or even be lynched but ultimately they could still be town.
What the hell? Based on what?
I don't think Mafia would try to derail a lynch the way they did for a townie.
Yes a tactic scum sometimes use is to register a level of protest against a lynch victim they know to be good. But it is rarely done so early in the vote the way they did it. It's usually done after the vote is more or less a formality. I think Bazals arguing against me and Mis's simple vote were a cordinated and genuine attempt to stop momentum for drews lynch.
Mafia would do that for a mafia. They would not do that for a town.
I'm neutral on BM, partly because I thought he was mafia last game for a fair chunk of last game and was wrong, partly because a BM lynch is just so damn easy to get going and is an easy diversion to save other suspects, and partly because BM is BM and who knows if he's just being BM or he's being bad.
I resemble that remark thanks to derpsta /dead
That's the real reason mafia are holding off imo, they know if they're the ones who tip it it'll stick out like dogs balls.
BM/CJ imo wouldn't push so hard if they were mafia, but should be "checked out" to be sure.
Ah f**k it. Balls deep time.
vote: Drew-sta
In the absence of any night action and amidst varying levels of inactivity, the best course of action is to be suspicious of those whose logic doesn't sit well with you for whatever reason. When someone's logic is wavering they're either being a silly bugger or are telling fibs. WarriorPoet's 'misread role PM' defence is only saved by his role-claim of Drew-sta for me at this point, so I'm left with Drew-sta.
FAQ
Q) Hi Apey, long time listener first time caller, why are you voting for Drew-sta?
A) Hello anonymous fan. This is a good question and I will elaborate right now.
Firstly, this has nothing to do with his OMGUS vote, I didn't take that seriously at all, nor does it have anything to do with his initial post and vote for 9701. It doesn't really have anything to do with 9701 turning up town either, but rather his reasoning with regards to 9701.
However, he made an odd claim that 9701 never metas BM. This is false, 9701 does this on a regular basis. His warning that he may end up dead due to pretty much a nothing argument seemed like a very premature 'appeal to town'.
Next, Drew is very quick to play the framed card so early in the game. Setting up a defence before it is required seems strange to me. Interesting that the mafia didn't kill 9701, as that could paint Drew in a bad light. His post right after this didn't really make sense to me, either.
Here, he makes the claim that mafia have a significant advantage whilst pushing 9701. With 5 mafia vs 20 town and 11 actions present in the game, this information being made public before Drew's post, I think this claim is suspiciously false.
This post seemed rather unnecessarily bloodthirsty, even requesting the investigator to change his action and investigate 9701.
I reckon he threw this post out there as another 'appeal to town', offering to throw himself up as a lynch candidate when he knew that was highly unlikely to happen, considering night had just finished and it was unknown whether any information had to come to light.
Drew made an odd comment in this post, right at the bottom. Hoggmaster never voted in the mickyj lynch. He went after him further here for example even though it was based on incorrect information. Furthermore, the lynch train wasn't orchestrated by Hoggmaster.
As KTF pointed out, there was a bit of flip-flopping voting going on too. In my opinion, Drew was playing his "I'm not sure if we should vote for them or not but ultimately votes for them anyway because he knows they're town" card until he got called out on it.
It's hard to distinguish whether Drew is being a silly town bugger or is mafia, but as I said to begin with, in the light of no information, my suspicions are those with faulty or flawed logic, so I'm sticking with my vote.
Q) But Apey, what if you're wrong?
Well, I'm not expecting or suggesting a lynchtrain should start from this. This is admittedly just suspicions and nothing more. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I'm sticking with my vote unless something else more concrete comes up.
I am in favour of putting suspicions out there to get the ball rolling and generate discussion.
Apey's work should not go unrewarded. I still think that I am right about WP but Apey makes a number of good points using that fancy trick I like...logic.
changevote: drew
For the record I maintain my suspicions on WP, KTF and also pugz.
change vote: drew
still not sure on WP though
I'm sticking with Hoppity.
Chalk one up for the Bunny.
vote: BM
Drew you numpty, vote before bed.
10/10 meltdown from Drew. The Bunny would be proud of that one.
I don't believe WP is scum, leaving meltdown boy and the Bunny as the available options. Both certainly look scummy.
This was meant to be posted last night.
No. There's no compelling evidence for anyone in my mind although Hogg reeks to me. I will not flip flop for the sake of it. There's no point. I would rather go to night and suffer two town deaths in the hope we can find more by the write up and through WP than lynch someone on the poor hunches we got. Hogg is the loose end. Mis saw it too. Thats all I will vote for if people are willing to go for it.
Goose! Hogg did vote for micky you idiot! Go read the write up!