Most Overrated Coach

[DoggiesBro]

good try, my comment was correct you idiots don't know basic maths clearly.

run to the time will tell comment, we both know it to be true. here is another one.

manly - des = every player goes backwards.
dogs + des = every player goes forward.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[The Eagle]

lol i've never had my maths shown for anything except correct.

good try muppet. heres one for you.

manly - tony williams = worse then 2012.
bulldogs + tony williams = better

If your maths was anywhere near mine, you would stop embarrasing yourself with stupid comments on storm and dogs matches when you lost by 40 to them, and the fact if you knew maths you would conceed that the dogs are the superior team to manly. though clearly it isn't as you can't work out the losing score for your squad.

Im going to go ahead and say it

Chee-Kam > Tony Williams

Chee-Kam will have a dig,She-rex wont

 

[DoggiesBro]

Oh the butthurt is strong in this one.

 

[bottle]

You want to point out where my maths has been substandard?

Your claim to fame is you did a high level of maths in high school yet your maths has been shown to be pretty poor. Unfortunately, your English is even worse so you get shown up as the intellectual failure that you are.

Lol, claims of Mensa membership to follow, shortly followed by commentary on size of body parts and luck with the ladies.

It runs in the family.

 

[firechild]

manly - des = every player goes backwards.

You yourself said that Taufua improved. Whare also improved, he went from being a nobody to being a NZ international.

dogs + des = every player goes forward.

Hodkinson went from a 1st grade halfback to a NSW hack.

The thing is, the Bulldogs would have struggled to get worse but the real period of improvement was late last season when Dymock took over. On the other hand, Manly didn't have many players with much room for improvement.

 

[DoggiesBro]

You yourself said that Taufua improved. Whare also improved, he went from being a nobody to being a NZ international.



Hodkinson went from a 1st grade halfback to a NSW hack.

The thing is, the Bulldogs would have struggled to get worse but the real period of improvement was late last season when Dymock took over. On the other hand, Manly didn't have many players with much room for improvement.

Oh dear, Taufua the thug who should be sacked soonish came out of no where. He wasn't something Toovey did. Prime example is how every single other player went BACKWARDS.

Hodkinson was playing, before being injured, and Keating improved that much that he was hard to drop seeing someone was out for so long, and then injured again for so long.

Good try though. I love your tears of failure. Reminds me of the silvertail forum when manly lost to the mighty dogs in the finals.:lol::lol:

Possibly more of the 40+ point EMBARRASMENT they copped by the storm.

 

[firechild]

Oh dear, Taufua the thug who should be sacked soonish came out of no where. He wasn't something Toovey did. Prime example is how every single other player went BACKWARDS.

Hodkinson was playing, before being injured, and Keating improved that much that he was hard to drop seeing someone was out for so long, and then injured again for so long.

Good try though. I love your tears of failure. Reminds me of the silvertail forum when manly lost to the mighty dogs in the finals.:lol::lol:

Possibly more of the 40+ point EMBARRASMENT they copped by the storm.

Good maths skills Bro, we lost by 28. But I guess that's closer to 40 than 10.

You failed to acknowledge Whare. As for Taufua, yes he was a rookie but there were plenty of people early in the season wanting Oldfield to be selected over Taufua because he wasn't that great. By seasons end he averaged 250+m over his first 2 finals appearances. That's an improvement in anyone's book.

Who went backwards? Kite was better this year than he has been since 2008, Foran and DCE had good seasons, Brett Stewart had a brilliant season. I'm beginning to think the extent of your RL following is news highlights and this forum.

 

[DoggiesBro]

Was the score not 40+ your maths is horrible, can't even work out what a 40+ looks like on the score board, spose you turned of the game before it happened most the time.


Improvement on what? He never played the other finals. Good try. Anyone who wanted oldfield has problems.

Who went backwards? Hrmmm. B Stewart, D Williams, S Matai, K Foran, DCE, King, Kite, Ballin, Watmough, G Stewart, Burher, T Williams, Lussick, Galavaou, Rose.

Did i miss someone?

Taufua came out of no where, looked the goods. To bad he is a thug and will likely be sacked if the nrl has any moral grounds. Harrison improved, though he's out of that rat hole.J Lyon wouldn't be considered backwards, though wouldn't say went forward either.

 

[Red Bear]

Was the score not 40+ your maths is horrible, can't even work out what a 40+ looks like on the score board, spose you turned of the game before it happened most the time.


Improvement on what? He never played the other finals. Good try. Anyone who wanted oldfield has problems.

Who went backwards? Hrmmm. B Stewart, D Williams, S Matai, K Foran, DCE, King, Kite, Ballin, Watmough, G Stewart, Burher, T Williams, Lussick, Galavaou, Rose.

Did i miss someone?

Taufua came out of no where, looked the goods. To bad he is a thug and will likely be sacked if the nrl has any moral grounds. Harrison improved, though he's out of that rat hole.J Lyon wouldn't be considered backwards, though wouldn't say went forward either.

Bolded are 30+ (and Galuvao was quite good), not every player is going to last the distance. D Williams was injured constantly and played well when fit. Lussick was always average and B Stewart had a very good season.

Ballin went backwards? He was as consistant as ever.

I think their backrow, Watmough and Stewart, were off their games, but that was partly injury based as well, and much of Foran and DCE's problems (well DCE was very good anyway) were off the back of a forward pack not playing as well as the season before.

Jury's out on Toovey, but I think much of Manly's issues this season came down to a forward pack that was collectively a year older and seemingly beyond the peak alot of them hit in the previous season. How Toovey goes as he rebuilds the side will be his acid test, he did pretty well thus far.

As for over rated coaches, Sheens is the obvious one, Stuart as a club coach is fairly over rated, rep arena is his perfect spot and if he stuck with NSW we'd have gotten over the line next year I think.

Neil Henry also.

 

[firechild]

Was the score not 40+ your maths is horrible, can't even work out what a 40+ looks like on the score board, spose you turned of the game before it happened most the time.

Have you ever seen "40+" on a scoreboard? Pretty sure they keep the actual score up and not just indicate that it is 40 or more.

Improvement on what? He never played the other finals. Good try. Anyone who wanted oldfield has problems.

Improvement on his poor ball security and bad defensive reads early in the season.

Who went backwards? Hrmmm. B Stewart

One of his best seasons.

D Williams

Returning from a broken neck and finishing with a blown knee, he was fantastic in between. Probably his best form since 2008.

S Matai, K Foran, DCE

No better or worse than last year.

King

Good work, you got one.

Kite

Kite has been bog average for the previous 2 seasons and this year he really stepped up a gear, easily our best prop in 2012.

Ballin

See Foran, DCE and Matai.

Watmough, G Stewart

Playing injured for most of the year will impact on players' form.

Burher

You really didn't watch much footy this year did you?

T Williams

Yet you continually claim that he destroyed teams on his own. He was bog average for all but a few games.

Lussick

He only really had 1 good game last year.

Galavaou, Rose

No better or worse than they have been previously. Rose didn't get a lot of games this year, first was in about round 7 IIRC. Certainly not dropped due to poor form considering he hadn't played yet.

Taufua came out of no where, looked the goods. To bad he is a thug and will likely be sacked if the nrl has any moral grounds. Harrison improved, though he's out of that rat hole.J Lyon wouldn't be considered backwards, though wouldn't say went forward either.

Lyon was as good as he'd ever been, yet you claim "EVERY" player went backwards. Taufua should be sacked, right after James Graham. Admit it, you just want him sacked so your lowlife club can make an offer to him.

 

[Jack_Napier]

I actually think Lyon went up another level this year. He was great, easily in the top 3 centres in the game IMO. Would've loved to see him and JMoz in the centres for NSW.

 

[dangerousdave]

The standard of intellectuals on these forums is great.

Clearly no one involved in such petty 'academic' banter is spending their time preparing lecture notes and assignments for the students in this afternoons econ102 class.

Its a dick measuring competition with a 3 inch ruler

 

[Ram Man]

How can someone claim that T-Rex destroyed teams on his own after getting suspended for 8 or so weeks but then in the same breath say he went backwards...Brett Stewart had injuries constantly for the last 2 years and came back and played SOO and played well back to his best...Most blokes would go backwards after suffering a broken neck too....Im not a Manly fan in any sense of the word but jesus I think there was some names thrown in there that didnt deserve to be.

 

[ceagle]

Was the score not 40+ your maths is horrible, can't even work out what a 40+ looks like on the score board, spose you turned of the game before it happened most the time.


Improvement on what? He never played the other finals. Good try. Anyone who wanted oldfield has problems.

Who went backwards? Hrmmm. B Stewart, D Williams, S Matai, K Foran, DCE, King, Kite, Ballin, Watmough, G Stewart, Burher, T Williams, Lussick, Galavaou, Rose.

Did i miss someone?

Taufua came out of no where, looked the goods. To bad he is a thug and will likely be sacked if the nrl has any moral grounds. Harrison improved, though he's out of that rat hole.J Lyon wouldn't be considered backwards, though wouldn't say went forward either.

Lol, you have no f**king clue, the only players who went backwards spent most of the year injured or suspended.

 

[DoggiesBro]

Have you ever seen "40+" on a scoreboard? Pretty sure they keep the actual score up and not just indicate that it is 40 or more.

Improvement on his poor ball security and bad defensive reads early in the season.

One of his best seasons.

Returning from a broken neck and finishing with a blown knee, he was fantastic in between. Probably his best form since 2008.

No better or worse than last year.

Good work, you got one.

Kite has been bog average for the previous 2 seasons and this year he really stepped up a gear, easily our best prop in 2012.

See Foran, DCE and Matai.

Playing injured for most of the year will impact on players' form.

You really didn't watch much footy this year did you?

Yet you continually claim that he destroyed teams on his own. He was bog average for all but a few games.

He only really had 1 good game last year.

No better or worse than they have been previously. Rose didn't get a lot of games this year, first was in about round 7 IIRC. Certainly not dropped due to poor form considering he hadn't played yet.

Lyon was as good as he'd ever been, yet you claim "EVERY" player went backwards. Taufua should be sacked, right after James Graham. Admit it, you just want him sacked so your lowlife club can make an offer to him.

So in summary you stoped watching your team.

All of them were a step backwards under Toovey.

Get your hand of it FOR ONCE.

 

[betcats]

Hmm this argument seems legit.

"they all went backwards"

"no they didn't"

"Yes they did"

"No they didn't"

"Yes they did"

 

[DoggiesBro]

Lol, you have no f**king clue, the only players who went backwards spent most of the year injured or suspended.

Your the last bloke who should be saying anything about not having a clue.

Do you forget last off season comments you made re des, the dogs and manly?

ALL WRONG:lol::lol::lol:

I'm going to assume you and your butthurtbudy fireloser both turned the tv off at the same time. Noone improved under Toovey. Everyone improved under Des.

End of discussion really. You can't dispute facts, despite how hard you try it is a FACT.

 

[betcats]

Proof or stfu about it doggiesbro. I mean real proof, not "Dessie thinks..."

 

[Hutty1986]

Step away from the DoggiesBro

 

[DoggiesBro]

Proof or stfu about it doggiesbro. I mean real proof, not "Dessie thinks..."

Um your not one to tell me what to do.

Though if you need proof look at the ladder. Look at Pritchard, Eastwood, Inu, Kasiano, Barba, Morris, Reynolds, Keating, Halatau.

All either been called past it, overrated, rubbish, fat, lazy, disinterested, pea hearted, incosistent.

Not one of those players would be called that this year. First year of Des.

Need more proof watch the football season called 2012.

Need more proof wait for another year under him, and another year for Womanly without him. Pretty clear for most.