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Mundine slams Daley and Beetson

Raider_69

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Maybe, I could have missed a comment about his hertiage; but given Daley has been around League since, what about 1988 or around there, it just seems strange that it was not common knowledge of his background.

i thought it was common knowledge, or at least has been for the last about 10 years of my life
granted i didnt know previously but maybe Daley isnt the type that needs to spout about his heritage daily to get attention. As he said in the article, he talked when asked about it but never felt the need to bring it up because he was brought up to let his actions speak for himself.

He's a class act. If mundine was half the man or footballer that Daley was and is, he'd have a lot more australians in his corner when he fights. As it stands most the population and i recon a decent slice of aboriginals will now be hoping Geale knocks his f**king block off
 
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Spot On

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Just selling a fight people! And your reactions are exactly what he wants. You are just making him richer! If you really want to stick it up him, don't talk about him to anyone.

Possibly true but his history of racial and offensive comments have damaged him personally within the community and overseas (see numbers who watched his McKart fight in US). So while he makes money from his mouth which may be all he cares about, he has alienated himself from the public and successfully developed deep hatred for himself from what seems to be a large portion of the community in this country and some overseas.
 
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Daley could have shut Mundine up years ago when he was carrying on about his non-selection in SOO and Kangaroo sides because of his aboriginality by saying: "Hey Bro, I am the same as you dude so why do I get selected - maybe, because I'm playing better football." What comeback could Mundine have had.

Its a good thing that Daley didn't fall back on race. He let Mundine run his mouth and look like a moron.

This line gets trotted out all the time. And frankly i cant understand how its arguable.
Daley was by far the more talented player of the two. It was evident pretty much every time they stepped on the field. He was a better ball player, kicker, had better vision, was a much better defender. You could make a case that Mundine was a better ball runner, but then again Daley was a far better runner before he did so much damage to his knee he was pretty much playing on one leg.


Daley was the better player and the most talented. I dont see where the argument could be made that Mundine bested him on those fronts.

I agree that Daley was the more talented player but that's opinion. Other people have differing opinions which is why I said arguable.
 

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To me you have to be AUSTRALIAN FIRST then whatever you are ( And who really cares from there Your an aussie ---over mother f>>> ers)
Far to much crap comes from this
 

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I'm not much of a Mundine fan, but he is actually a really good boxer, you can't be a World Champ without having some skill. .

well given there's about 20 boxing organisations, 600 divisions, if you have a manager who sucks enough c**k eventually you'll get a shot at a title and beat another nuffy. mundine has skill but very little ticker. look at the fights he's lost, when the other boxers werent worried about his speed and taunts he's gone into his shell and struggled. he did make green look like a chump though


Maybe, I could have missed a comment about his hertiage; but given Daley has been around League since, what about 1988 or around there, it just seems strange that it was not common knowledge of his background.

i remember the first time i heard about daley's heritage was when there was a story about racism in league (cant remember the incident but it wouldnt surprise me if munidne was involved) and daley said "i never copped crap for being a black fella". I dont think he ever really made an issue of it, but you also have to remember that a lot players are probably of mixed race and don't carry on about it like mundine has


To me you have to be AUSTRALIAN FIRST then whatever you are ( And who really cares from there Your an aussie ---over mother f>>> ers)
Far to much crap comes from this

i agree, but unfortunately it doesnt always work this way. Mundine had the chance during his boxing career to actually get people on his side but he's gone out of his way to cause division, bag league, claim racism at every opportunity. when he retires he will have some boxing belts in his cabinets, a shitload of money in the bank, adoration from his followers and a lot of hate from everyone else

p.s. I've always been curious what the aboriginal community made of his conversion to islam
 

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Really, as much as I don't like him. He'll achieve more than a large percentage of people. He is/has been a world champion. That is an achievement in itself, regardless of your inability to accept that fact.

if I could achieve the following I'd be pleased - interim WBA Light Middleweight Champion, two-time WBA Super Middleweight Champion, IBO Middleweight Champion and played SOO. if that makes you a couldabeen then I'd take it in a heart beat. It's true jealousy is a curse.



100% correct & I am not a fan of Mundine. If anyone says he is a boxing chump, they clearly have no idea about boxing. He made Green look 2nd rate.

There are approximately 150 world champions in the sport of boxing today, Mundine has never been a legitimate world champion. Only in boxing, a sport run by greedy promoters do they have 2 world champions in the same division for the same organisation.
Sure he's done well but if he'd done a few things differently he could've achieved a whole lot more in league (like winning the 99 grand final). In boxing he's had his chance to win legitimate belts but either got beat or turned down the fight.
 

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There are approximately 150 world champions in the sport of boxing today, Mundine has never been a legitimate world champion. Only in boxing, a sport run by greedy promoters do they have 2 world champions in the same division for the same organisation.
Sure he's done well but if he'd done a few things differently he could've achieved a whole lot more in league (like winning the 99 grand final). In boxing he's had his chance to win legitimate belts but either got beat or turned down the fight.

Agree with most of this.

To achieve what he has in two sports is pretty amazing.

However, he never really took the chance to further himself by fighting in the US once he had achieved a certain level of success locally. The reason for this, money, because unlike almost anyone not named Fenech or Tzyu he has been getting real money for his Pay Per View fights.
 

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Anthony clearly models his public "persona" on Ali.

And tries to ad lib like him, but obviously isn't as witty or smart, and ends up saying shit that Im sure even he regrets later.
 

Ram Man

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He always said stupid stuff before his fights because he would get PPV dollars from his fans and even more from the people who hated him. But now he is just taking the piss...even the people who hate him are sick of his shit and refuse to pay for it because they know he was fighting another part time cab driver.

Ive never seen someone backtrack so quick when Kent put it on him if he called Beetson an "Uncle Tom".
He a dick and will always be a dick...sure he may do some stuff for charities but there are better ways to get more PPV dollars than shit canning a guy who did more for his people than he ever will.
 

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Mundine is just an idiot. If he is indeed “a likeable guy” in his private life then I have no idea why he puts on this charade. Australians like to back their own and if he was more humble and respectful like he allegedly is outside of sports then he would have a massive following. As it stands he is a moron whom I hope gets knocked out in 3 seconds flat tomorrow night.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Isn't mundine contradicting himself, he gives it to Daley for apparently not embracing his indigenous background. Yet mundine converts to Muslim - if he was embracing of his indigenous background shouldnt he embrace aboriginal religious believes?
 

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Isn't mundine contradicting himself, he gives it to Daley for apparently not embracing his indigenous background. Yet mundine converts to Muslim - if he was embracing of his indigenous background shouldnt he embrace aboriginal religious believes?

He believes he is Ali. Trains under water, converts to Islam, talks like Ali, says he is the greatest.

He calls out indigenous Australians for turning their back on their heritage, marrying white people, siding with the white man etc Sounds extrememly contradictory given his beliefs.
 

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Mundine succeeded: he got added attention to what was already going to be a good fight. I wish he, like Geale, let the actual fight do the promoting as opposed to lowering himself to "shock comments" to hype the fight.
 

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He believes he is Ali. Trains under water, converts to Islam, talks like Ali, says he is the greatest.

He calls out indigenous Australians for turning their back on their heritage, marrying white people, siding with the white man etc Sounds extrememly contradictory given his beliefs.

Sounds Racist
 
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Anthony clearly models his public "persona" on Ali.

And tries to ad lib like him, but obviously isn't as witty or smart, and ends up saying shit that Im sure even he regrets later.




This pretty much sums it up for me. I'd just add that he lacks Ali's poise and class as well.
 
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Mundine is trying to mould himself into being a controversial character but the truth is he is not. I have met Mundine. A good bloke. It is all talk. Nothing more. It's more like a WWE promo but sadly he is no promo genius like CM Punk or Dwayne Johntson.
 
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